Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?

2008-02-22 Thread UNIX admin
Really? For workstations in general, and SPARC in particular they seemed cheap to me. Promotions combined with my Universities discount (no larger than other large commercial accounts got,) I often got Ultra 5's for around/under $2000, and Ultra10's for less than $3000 (I doubt those

Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?

2008-02-22 Thread UNIX admin
I have always wanted to know what is so special about SPARC hardware that some people still prefer it over x86. Unless you're really jiggy and down with the UltraSPARC processor, and know how to squeeze that extra performance out of an UltraSPARC based CPU, nothing really. If you look inside

[osol-discuss] Grateful For The Indiana Project

2008-02-22 Thread Mel Craig Thompson
I have been running various Linux Distros, Apple OS X and Windows Vista. Tried to get a few versions of opensolaris running on a few machines and couple of different drives, but to no avail. Even the little BeLenux disk didn't work. But finally, I got the Indiana pre-release Live CD to work.

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I define success, in the context of this community, as a community with a common vision to to create an open source UNIX distribution that we can all name OpenSolaris and also contribute to it. Something I can download, I can build it ALL OF IT from

Re: [osol-discuss] Any reason to keep my Ultra 10?

2008-02-22 Thread Manish Chakravarty
[...] Now, if you got here reading this far, you might think I'm really bashing Sun hardware and don't like SPARC. But the truth is, IF there were Sun V240s out there for a *sane*, decent price, I'd load up on them in a heartbeat. As they are still outrageously overpriced, even the used

Re: [osol-discuss] Grateful For The Indiana Project

2008-02-22 Thread Lurie
What was the problem with installation ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Chris Linton-Ford
It *is* your affair. You do work for Sun right ? If you do then you *must* always be focused on doing good business first. And by any meaning ful definition a good business is one with a good cashflow. This is an open engineering community. We care about some of the same things that

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 02:37:02PM -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote: that anyone will question the DEC Alpha. Regardless, I can assure you that in the world of business, the real world, being right does not matter. How can you explain Microsoft ? You can't. I think that you may be

[osol-discuss] live upgrade questions

2008-02-22 Thread Kent Watsen
I've read as much as I can find, but I still don't know if: 1. assuming a single-disk solution, should the disk have two equal-sized fdisk partitions or one fdisk partition with two equal-sized slices inside it? 2. if my installation is the Reduced Networking Core System Support plus a few

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
In that case, solve the software package problem within Project Indiana and olve the trademark situation and solve the lack of a driver for Adaptec controllers and AMD PCNet etherent and solve real problems that affect the OpenSolaris project. [...]

Re: [osol-discuss] live upgrade questions

2008-02-22 Thread James Carlson
Kent Watsen writes: I've read as much as I can find, but I still don't know if: 1. assuming a single-disk solution, should the disk have two equal-sized fdisk partitions or one fdisk partition with two equal-sized slices inside it? One fdisk partition with two or more slices inside.

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread James Carlson
Dennis Clarke writes: This was from some internal document at Sun in which the context was regarding a product called Solaris. Yep. They all have drivers except for the sound. The pcn driver is a piece of trash and it has *always* been a trashy piece of code. So no one can tell me that it

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dennis Clarke wrote: I have said all this before over and over ad nauseum ad ignorium : http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=51198tstart=60 Most engineers ignore the cess-pool of flame wars and confusion that is opensolaris-discuss - if you want a driver engineer to pay attention

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dennis Clarke wrote: I have said all this before over and over ad nauseum ad ignorium : http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=51198tstart=60 Most engineers ignore the cess-pool of flame wars and confusion that is opensolaris-discuss - if you want a driver engineer to pay

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone using zfs and CIFS yet?

2008-02-22 Thread Andre Lue
If I continue to use samba until some of these differences/evolution are ironed out. 1. What added overhead if any, is there to the new zfs code with sharesmb? 2. Are there any switches or settings to completely disable the sharesmb additions? thanks This message posted from

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE php/mysql Incompatibility

2008-02-22 Thread Christopher Gibbs
Anyone? On 2/21/08, Christopher Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Has anybody else had problems connecting to mysql from php using the unmodified web stack that comes with SXDE 1/08? If you are using the mysql 5 service (the default mysql SMF service) you have to use the

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread James Carlson
Dennis Clarke writes: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a heck of a good contribution, I think. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dennis Clarke writes: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a heck of a good contribution, I think. There already is a brilliant driver that I

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Clarke writes: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a heck of a good contribution, I think. A

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Clarke writes: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a heck of a good contribution, I think. A

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Jason King
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Clarke writes: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dennis Clarke wrote: Dennis Clarke writes: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a heck of a good contribution, I think. There already is a

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
Dennis Clarke wrote: Dennis Clarke writes: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a heck of a good contribution, I think. There already is a

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE php/mysql Incompatibility

2008-02-22 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Christopher Gibbs wrote: Anyone? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/old-client.html On 2/21/08, Christopher Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Has anybody else had problems connecting to mysql from php using the unmodified web stack that comes with SXDE

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the driver ... there is nothing I can do with a closed driver. You (or anyone not tainted with knowledge of the closed implementation) can write or port an open one. That'd be a heck of a good contribution, I think. A replacement

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE php/mysql Incompatibility

2008-02-22 Thread Christopher Gibbs
Thanks for the responses guys. And yeah, I know what the problem is and how to get around it. My point was why go through the effort to include the web stack (AMP) and not bother to make sure they're compatible with each other? I can very easily use mysqli in anything I write but what if a user

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE php/mysql Incompatibility

2008-02-22 Thread Mike . Sullivan
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 22 11:48:35 2008 Thanks for the responses guys. And yeah, I know what the problem is and how to get around it. My point was why go through the effort to include the web stack (AMP) and not bother to make sure they're compatible with each other? Because sometimes

Re: [osol-discuss] SXDE php/mysql Incompatibility

2008-02-22 Thread Christopher Gibbs
Ah, thanks Mike. I make mistakes all too often so I understand. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't done on purpose. ;) On 2/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 22 11:48:35 2008 Thanks for the responses guys. And yeah, I know what the problem is

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure where the ae driver is however. The Indiana team is looking at what is needed to include ae and/or unencumber pcn - whether either or both happens is TBD, but given the problems in changing the names of network interfaces, just saying we

Re: [osol-discuss] Definition of project/community success

2008-02-22 Thread David . Comay
It is when you consider that pcn does not work and the ae driver does. As Alan mentioned, a number of folks have been looking into ae. One issue that several folks identified (at least on the Indiana prototype) is that ae seemed to lock up on bulk transfers while the pcn driver did not:

[osol-discuss] open ae driver and the closed pcn(7D) driver

2008-02-22 Thread Dennis Clarke
n.b.: topic changed It is when you consider that pcn does not work and the ae driver does. As Alan mentioned, a number of folks have been looking into ae. One issue that several folks identified (at least on the Indiana prototype) is that ae seemed to lock up on bulk transfers while the pcn

Re: [osol-discuss] open ae driver and the closed pcn(7D) driver

2008-02-22 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Dennis Clarke wrote: My problems were with SXDE and SXCE and Indiana and Solaris 8 x86 and Solaris 10 8/07 on the exact same hardware. In all cases the ae driver worked perfectly. At least, near as I can quantifiably measure and qualitatively report. Can I ask what