Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?

2008-05-11 Thread Alan Coopersmith
GNU Watch wrote: I have heard nothing but broken promises from Ian Murdock and other big whigs at sun saying that opensolaris will be released under the GPLv3. Many developers dont want to invest time to opensolaris until it is under the GPLv3 because the CDDL doesnt protect users and

[osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?

2008-05-11 Thread Ivan Wang
Hi there, The title says much of it, is there any plan to bring IPS into SXCE? Or future Solaris is still based on SVr4 packaging system? If there is plan to integrate IPS into SX, any projected build for that? Cheers, Ivan. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?

2008-05-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
GNU Watch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard nothing but broken promises from Ian Murdock and other big whigs at sun saying that opensolaris will be released under the GPLv3. Many developers dont want to invest time to opensolaris until it is under the GPLv3 because the CDDL doesnt

Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?

2008-05-11 Thread Mario Goebbels
Now let's stop this thread, it will not help us. I can't even believe that anyone's arguing at all about this. Why? Take a look: GNU Watch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -mg ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?

2008-05-11 Thread Mario Goebbels
The title says much of it, is there any plan to bring IPS into SXCE? Or future Solaris is still based on SVr4 packaging system? If there is plan to integrate IPS into SX, any projected build for that? I'd figure that no plans have been made and the people involved in such decisions are

Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?

2008-05-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
GNU Watch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey Shawn this promise was made over a year ago by Jonathan Schwartz and Rich Green. The statement soon retracted by them which I understand bro but they clearly said they are strongly considering it and there has been no progress in that direction.

Re: [osol-discuss] IPS on SXCE?

2008-05-11 Thread Lurie
I believe the plan is to discontinue SXCE as soon as Indiana contains everything available in SXCE (like Jumpstart, text based installer, etc.) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

[osol-discuss] Are there plans to make more official packages available for 2008.05?

2008-05-11 Thread Helge G.
Hi, yesterday I installed OpenSolaris 2008.05. It works perfectly, but I'm missing the huge number of packages available for Linux distributions like Ubuntu or Debian. E.g., I need Ruby with sqlite support. On a Debian or Ubuntu system (with compilers installed), I could do this: apt-get

Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?

2008-05-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mario Goebbels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now let's stop this thread, it will not help us. I can't even believe that anyone's arguing at all about this. Why? Take a look: GNU Watch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this reason, I mentioned that OpenSolaris contributors are known persons ;-)

Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?

2008-05-11 Thread Tim Scanlon
The GPL is crap, I hope to god it doesn't get used. Corporations violate it all the time, developers don't bother to read it, and it's an awful license to use if you want to feed yourself with your efforts. It mixes politics with business for people with too little balls to act politically.

Re: [osol-discuss] Intel SpeedStep support

2008-05-11 Thread Tim Scanlon
That's pretty impressive, who's the manufacturer? Thanks, Tim This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread Tim Scanlon
It's out of date and appears unmaintained. Which is not surprising, but at this point is annoying given there seems to be some effort to dumb down the OS for the linux crowd. I can not figure out if SXDE is being discontinued for some Tuxed up flavor that so far, does not look suitable for a

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread Tim Scanlon
Well since I can't edit what I said I'll follow up what I wrote.. I saw that SXDE is being discontinued. This worries me and disappoints me too. If i wanted to run Linux, I would. Solaris performs better, is actually standards compliant, and gets tested well. I can't say that I am seeing the

Re: [osol-discuss] Are there plans to make more official packages available for 2008.05?

2008-05-11 Thread Shawn Walker
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Helge G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Sun plan to extend the pkg.opensolaris.org repository over the lifetime of 2008.05, so that it will become more and more comparable to the official Debian or Ubuntu repositories, or will that not happen before the next

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread Ché Kristo
Tim, Obviously you aren't too happy with the path being taken by Indiana and noone wants to see your opinion excluded around here. The mainline Sun Solaris stuff is well and truly out of the hands of this community, however Indiana belongs to this community so of course your feedback to the

Re: [osol-discuss] Are there plans to make more official packages available for 2008.05?

2008-05-11 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Helge G. wrote: Hi, yesterday I installed OpenSolaris 2008.05. It works perfectly, but I'm missing the huge number of packages available for Linux distributions like Ubuntu or Debian. E.g., I need Ruby with sqlite support. On a Debian or Ubuntu system (with compilers installed), I could

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread Mario Goebbels
Indiana will replace SXDE. Indiana is still Solaris, the only difference is that it has a fancy new installer, ZFS boot and the GNU _userland tools_ set at the beginning of the PATH env variable (all other variants are still there). It's the tools, nothing more, there's no glibc6 or anything

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread Lars Tunkrans
UmmSXDE is really onlySXCE + Studio + netbeans It is possible for any biweekely SXCE Build to run the developer tools install script. In fact its what I ususally do , as the SXDE installer is too dumb to be usefull. ( apologies to Dave ) One assumes the the CAIMAN

Re: [osol-discuss] will opensolaris ever be released under the GPL?

2008-05-11 Thread James Mansion
Tim Scanlon wrote: The GPL is crap, I hope to god it doesn't get used. Corporations violate it all the time, developers don't bother to read it, and it's an awful license to use if you want to feed yourself with your efforts. The thing I find mot odd about GPL is that if you work in a

[osol-discuss] Dell Inspiron 1525 + Ethernet Driver

2008-05-11 Thread Uday
Folks, I just installed OpenSolaris LiveCD(2008.05) that i got it from JavaONE. The installation was smooth. My problem is with the Ethernet card and it seems that the driver is NOT installed. My Laptop is a brand new Dell Inspiron 1525. I checked with Dell folks and the Ethernet card

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Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I saw that SXDE is being discontinued. This worries me and disappoints me too. If i wanted to run Linux, I would. __snip__ Tim I have been using SXDE/SXCE and predecessors thereof for almost three years now. However, after one week of intensive testing playing with IPS among a few

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Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Tim Scanlon wrote: It's out of date and appears unmaintained. That road map was maintained by the tonic team at Sun (the team that created OpenSolaris 4 years ago), but it really doesn't reflect the entire project any more since most of that team's original plans are done or have been

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the roadmap?

2008-05-11 Thread Tim Scanlon
The roadmap thing is what I want. I can handle digging out the flag-day/heads-up project page myself to see what's being uh announced in terms of features and changes that're in upcoming releases. That, even if it utterly fails on the P.R. front.. I get embarrassed to have to refer people to

Re: [osol-discuss] Dell Inspiron 1525 + Ethernet Driver

2008-05-11 Thread Frank Che
Use the Device Driver Utility tool to find out the chip of the Ethernet controller, start this tool from menu: System-Administration-Device Driver Utility. If this tool reports no driver for this Ethernet chip, write down the vendor id and device id of this device, look it up in this page to