Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread Tim Scanlon
Edward Ned Harvey said: I don't think most people (oracle especially) are interested in solaris/opensolaris replacing the home user/end user operating system. Corporate user says/thinks But if this one doesn't run on my laptop, why should I expect it to run on my servers?? This other one I know

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread Tim Scanlon
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Windows as an apache server You may have been using that as a quasi-made-up example, but the truth is I've make a lot of nickels doing exactly that. I don't care what people want to run anymore. If it's the most awful choice on the earth, I'll take it as a fun

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread russell
Choochoo does have a point about usability and the home user. I started working with Sun equipment in 1986, when Microsoft was just MSDOS and the early release of Windows used to compete with GEM desktop. No in the PC reseller at the time thought Windows would replace MSDOS it was too unstable.

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread Alexander
The relative strengths/weaknesses of the operating systems design make windows/ubuntu/osx generally better suited for primary end-user desktop interaction, while solaris/opensolaris/RHEL/debian/freebsd are generally better suited to power your servers behind the scenes. Yes, indeed, for

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread Erik Trimble
On 6/13/2010 12:41 AM, russell wrote: Choochoo does have a point about usability and the home user. I started working with Sun equipment in 1986, when Microsoft was just MSDOS and the early release of Windows used to compete with GEM desktop. No in the PC reseller at the time thought Windows

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread russell
Having spent many years in a variety of companies small, medium and a multinational. Having worked for a software developer company for over ten years, the platforms supported when I joined was DEC OSF/1, IRIX, Linux, AIX, HP-UX, Solaris and Windows workstations. As time passed DEC OSF/1, IRIX,

Re: [osol-discuss] good news- opensolaris updated roadmap

2010-06-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Martinez Solaris Near Term Roadmap • Solaris 10 – Next update CY2010 (“Update 9”) – Update focus: • New platform support • Oracle

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread Elaine Ashton
On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:45 AM, Erik Trimble wrote: For Enterprise mindshare and training, the critical point is Universities. Not Home Users. Take a look at the *BSDs - University is where they get the vast majority of their mindshare from, and newbie's cut their teeth under the tutelage

[osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Daniel Rock
Hello, can anyone confirm my observations with the attached test script? pax corrupts files if they contain more than 57 holes in it. I just found out today by accident after copying a large backup file. I was able to reproduce the bug on Solaris 10 and snv133, on UFS and ZFS. Is pax in the

Re: [osol-discuss] thanks to all who helped choochoo with OSOL message to Oracle/ Sun

2010-06-13 Thread Volker A. Brandt
For companies selling software on a variety of platforms volume reduces development costs, a limited number of high value sales is not sufficient. The eco system needs to be of a size, where sales exceed costs. Some institutions have found to their cost that Windows is not reliable enough for

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Daniel Rock writes: Hello, can anyone confirm my observations with the attached test script? pax corrupts files if they contain more than 57 holes in it. shelob:/tmp/test,8483 uname -a SunOS shelob 5.10 Generic_141414-02 sun4v sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-T1000 shelob:/tmp/test,8484 ./paxtest.pl

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Daniel Rock
Am 13.06.10 15:08, schrieb Volker A. Brandt: Daniel Rock writes: Hello, can anyone confirm my observations with the attached test script? pax corrupts files if they contain more than 57 holes in it. shelob:/tmp/test,8483 uname -a SunOS shelob 5.10 Generic_141414-02 sun4v sparc

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Volker A. Brandt
can anyone confirm my observations with the attached test script? pax corrupts files if they contain more than 57 holes in it. shelob:/tmp/test,8483 uname -a SunOS shelob 5.10 Generic_141414-02 sun4v sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-T1000 shelob:/tmp/test,8484 ./paxtest.pl

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Volker A. Brandt
shelob:/tmp/test,8496 foreach f ( 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 ) Forgot to say that I aborted the 4096 run since it took too long. -- Volker A. Brandt Consulting and Support for Sun Solaris Brandt Brandt

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Daniel Rock
Am 13.06.2010 16:25, schrieb Volker A. Brandt: shelob:/tmp/test,8496 foreach f ( 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 ) Do you test on tmpfs? Could you please re-run the tests on UFS or ZFS? I will revive my old SPARC machine and rerun the tests myself on SPARC. But I first have to patch it (first

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Rock sola...@ddcd.de wrote: Hello, can anyone confirm my observations with the attached test script? pax corrupts files if they contain more than 57 holes in it. I just found out today by accident after copying a large backup file. I was able to reproduce the bug on Solaris 10 and

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) wrote: I recommend star -copy -sparse -C from todir Typo correction: star -copy -sparse -C fromdir file todir Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Volker A. Brandt
shelob:/tmp/test,8496 foreach f ( 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 ) Do you test on tmpfs? Could you please re-run the tests on UFS or ZFS? I will revive my old SPARC machine and rerun the tests myself on SPARC. But I first have to patch it (first time I switched the machine on since October

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Rock sola...@ddcd.de wrote: Am 13.06.2010 16:25, schrieb Volker A. Brandt: shelob:/tmp/test,8496 foreach f ( 128 256 512 1024 2048 4096 ) Do you test on tmpfs? Could you please re-run the tests on UFS or ZFS? I will revive my old SPARC machine and rerun the tests myself on SPARC.

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Daniel Rock
Am 13.06.2010 15:08, schrieb Volker A. Brandt: Daniel Rock writes: Hello, can anyone confirm my observations with the attached test script? pax corrupts files if they contain more than 57 holes in it. shelob:/tmp/test,8483 uname -a SunOS shelob 5.10 Generic_141414-02 sun4v sparc

Re: [osol-discuss] good news- opensolaris updated roadmap

2010-06-13 Thread bsd
As indicated, this has been published before. Myself, I will keep checking for the new release IF it happens and give it a try. Otherwise, I've moved on. I can only think those who keep waiting and waiting for the next release are those who were put on hold by customer service 90 days ago.

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Volker A. Brandt
shelob:/tmp/test,8483 uname -a SunOS shelob 5.10 Generic_141414-02 sun4v sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-T1000 It seems you don't have patch 138623-02 installed. Correct, I don't have any revision of patch 138623 installed. I reactivated my SPARC machine, updated the kernel patch up to 137137-09

[osol-discuss] VirtualBox in extra repository is lagging behind

2010-06-13 Thread Cyril Plisko
Hi, I am not sure whether the people that take care of https://pkg.sun.com/opensolaris/extra/ are hanging on that list, but Id better try. The VirtualBox that extra serves is 3.1.8, while the version available from virtualbox.org is 3.2.4 Are there any plans to update extra repo, or it falls

Re: [osol-discuss] good news- opensolaris updated roadmap

2010-06-13 Thread Edward Martinez
As indicated, this has been published before. Myself, I will keep checking for the new release IF it happens and give it a try. Otherwise, I've moved on. I can only think those who keep waiting and waiting for the next release are those who were put on hold by customer service 90 days

Re: [osol-discuss] VirtualBox in extra repository is lagging behind

2010-06-13 Thread Erik Trimble
This was asked on the virtualbox list a week ago or so, right after 3.2.2 came out. The answer was: YES, it will be updated, though not immediately. The update delay was being driven by factors other than the impending OpenSolaris release. (frankly, I suspect that they don't want to push a

Re: [osol-discuss] VirtualBox in extra repository is lagging behind

2010-06-13 Thread Cyril Plisko
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com wrote: The update delay was being driven by factors other than the impending OpenSolaris release. (frankly, I suspect that they don't want to push a new sub-version each week, which is the current rate of bugfix releases

Re: [osol-discuss] VirtualBox in extra repository is lagging behind

2010-06-13 Thread alan pae
Hi, I am not sure whether the people that take care of https://pkg.sun.com/opensolaris/extra/ are hanging on that list, but Id better try. Is OpenOffice still at 3.1 or whatever it was? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] VirtualBox in extra repository is lagging behind

2010-06-13 Thread Alan Coopersmith
alan pae wrote: Hi, I am not sure whether the people that take care of https://pkg.sun.com/opensolaris/extra/ are hanging on that list, but Id better try. Is OpenOffice still at 3.1 or whatever it was? You'd get a faster answer by asking pkg.opensolaris.org than asking the list:

Re: [osol-discuss] good news- opensolaris updated roadmap

2010-06-13 Thread Edward Martinez
Edward Martinez wrote: there are some some good news. Oracle released an Updated opensolaris roadmap. Looks pretty much exactly like what Oracle has been telling people for months, and many people here have just previously ignored. If repeating it one more me is good news, then I'm

Re: [osol-discuss] good news- opensolaris updated roadmap

2010-06-13 Thread Alan Hargreaves
On 6/14/2010 2:09 AM, bsd wrote: I can only think those who keep waiting and waiting for the next release are those who were put on hold by customer service 90 days ago. They are still on hold waiting for someone on customer service to return and pick up. As someone who takes enormous

Re: [osol-discuss] pax considered harmful

2010-06-13 Thread Frank Batschulat
Hello, can anyone confirm my observations with the attached test script? pax corrupts files if they contain more than 57 holes in it. I just found out today by accident after copying a large backup file. I was able to reproduce the bug on Solaris 10 and snv133, on UFS and ZFS.

[osol-discuss] append new disk, has no /dev/dsk node for entire disc

2010-06-13 Thread Dmitry
pfexec format Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c4t0d0 ATA-ST31000528AS-CC38-931.51GB /p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/s...@0,0 1. c4t1d0 ATA-ST31000528AS-CC38-931.51GB /p...@0,0/pci8086,3...@9/pci15d9,5...@0/s...@1,0 2. c4t2d0 ATA-ST31000528AS-CC38-931.51GB