Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Let me guess what the Solaris 11 Express will be: The demo version of commercial Solaris 11. Utilizing only limited amount of RAM, disk space, and limited number of CPU cores. I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise, that was purposely crippled to use only

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Casper . Dik
Let me guess what the Solaris 11 Express will be: The demo version of commercial Solaris 11. Utilizing only limited amount of RAM, disk space, and limited number of CPU cores. Name one downloadable Oracle product which is limited in some way. (Other than the license) Casper

Re: [osol-discuss] honeypot

2010-08-19 Thread Joep Vesseur
On 08/18/10 21:32, Will Fiveash wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 09:08:11PM +0200, Günther Schmidt wrote: Hi all, I'd like to see what kind of network connection attempts are being made to my box, what's the easiest way to do that? I've cc'ed security-disc...@opensolaris.org as that's

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Casper . Dik
Let me guess what the Solaris 11 Express will be: The demo version of commercial Solaris 11. Utilizing only limited amount of RAM, disk space, and limited number of CPU cores. I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise, that was purposely crippled to use only

[osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
This is getting to the point that I'm even starting to feel the pattern here, and I'm not one to proclaim bad news quickly. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/815946 Since then, a couple of the names the poster speculated about have moved on. It's hard not to wonder if there aren't some

[osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
This is getting to the point that I'm even starting to feel the pattern here, and I'm not one to proclaim bad news quickly. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/815946 Since then, a couple of the names the poster speculated about have moved on. It's hard not to wonder if there aren't some

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Orvar Korvar
Actually, Oracle is opening up Solaris 11. Solaris 10 was closed source. This is important and no one complained on S10 being closed? When/if Oracle incorporates fixes from Illumos, those fixes will be available later, when Oracle releases the binary distro and the source code. This does not

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Orvar Korvar
And from today, also Adam Leventhal. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise, that was purposely crippled to use only limited RAM, disk space, and CPU cores. That's because Solaris was under Sun, not under Oracle. Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote: I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise, that was purposely crippled to use only limited RAM, disk space, and CPU cores. That's because Solaris was under Sun, not under Oracle. In 1990 Sun did tell costomers that they

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Name one downloadable Oracle product which is limited in some way. (Other than the license) Here it is: Oracle Database 10g Express Edition. http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/express-edition/overview/index.html Excerpt from the page above: XE will store up to 4GB of user data, use up

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread usafverteran
What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Casper . Dik
Dmitry G. Kozhinov d...@desktopfay.com wrote: I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwis= e, that was purposely crippled to use only limited RAM, disk space, and CPU cores. That's because Solaris was under Sun, not under Oracle. In 1990 Sun did tell costomers that

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time. Every company has their own product naming guidelines. Express from IBM means other thing than Express from Oracle. Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread usafverteran
What are you talking about? XE will store up to 4GB of user data, use up to 1GB of memory, and use one CPU on the host machine. DB2 Express-C supports up to 2 cores (1 cpu), 2GB memory, no database size limit, no connection limits, no user limits, 32- or 64-bit. -- This message posted from

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
What are you talking about? I am talking about *Oracle* product, which is limited in memory usage, disk space usage, and CPU usage, and has word Express in the product name. Dmitry. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread me
Well when the rising tide pulls back to sea, we will see what is left of Solaris proper. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/19/10 10:09 AM, usafverteran wrote: What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time. The point was the statement Name one downloadable Oracle product which is limited in some way. (Other than the license). Dmitry simply found one example. Paul

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 07:34:06AM -0700, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: What are you talking about? I am talking about *Oracle* product, which is limited in memory usage, disk space usage, and CPU usage, and has word Express in the product name. Dmitry. Can't you use the full version of

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Rick Ramsey
I've been with Sun since 89 and our great engineers have always moved on. There's only room for a few at the top, after all. It's actually a healthy movement, since it gives younger engineers with fresh approaches a change to step up. No question that Oracle is going to be different than

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Casper . Dik
On 08/19/10 10:09 AM, usafverteran wrote: What's your point? IBM has had DB2 Express for quite some time. The point was the statement Name one downloadable Oracle product which is limited in some way. (Other than the license). Dmitry simply found one example. He was right; it's

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread usafverteran
I know that is what you're talking about, but I specifically meant, what you mean by express mean something different between IBM and Oracle, because both of their database express products have limits. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Calum Benson
On 19 Aug 2010, at 15:43, Rick Ramsey wrote: I've been with Sun since 89 and our great engineers have always moved on. There's only room for a few at the top, after all. It's actually a healthy movement, since it gives younger engineers with fresh approaches a change to step up.

Re: [osol-discuss] dtrace io on zfs

2010-08-19 Thread Sergio Troiano
Hi, I'm working in a zfs_log monitor, mi idea is to create a backup fileserver, at first place the source server log each zfs syscall and then another server takes them and replicate the information copying each diference (via NFS), My problem is that some transactions don't appear in the log,

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Tamer Embaby
Some of the replies to J.S.: Thank God this is an April Fool :-) Otherwise what would this world do without OpenSource Software? Cannot imagine a day without Sun's open/free tools and technologies. Keep it alive and kicking. It's been always and still disappointing to me since the first

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
Can't you use the full version of Oracle freely as well (though not for production use)? Ok, maybe I can. Exactly the same way as I can use Solaris 10. My initial thought was different - I am trying to guess what Solaris 11 Express (successor of OpenSolaris) would be. I afraid that it may be

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Dmitry G. Kozhinov
I afraid that it may be functionally limited - compared to full Solaris 11. ... and compared to OpenSolaris :( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Paul Gress
On 08/19/10 12:29 PM, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: Can't you use the full version of Oracle freely as well (though not for production use)? Ok, maybe I can. Exactly the same way as I can use Solaris 10. My initial thought was different - I am trying to guess what Solaris 11 Express

Re: [osol-discuss] The unclear future of OpenSolaris codebase

2010-08-19 Thread Tamer Embaby
I believe it gonna be Solaris 11g. Tamer On 8/18/2010 9:39 PM, Dmitry G. Kozhinov wrote: At the time when latest OpenSolaris source code is still available, a fork attempt is possible. We see (and put our hopes into) the Illumos project. There are Nexenta and others. The question is: Which

[osol-discuss] Halcyon ZFS and system monitoring software for OpenSolaris (beta)

2010-08-19 Thread Mike Kirk
Hi all, Halcyon recently started to add ZFS pool stats to our Solaris Agent, and because many people were interested in the previous OpenSolaris beta* we've rolled it into our OpenSolaris build as well. I've already heard some great feedback about supporting ZIL and ARC stats, which we're

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 19 Aug 2010, at 15:43, Rick Ramsey wrote: I've been with Sun since 89 and our great engineers have always moved on. There's only room for a few at the top, after all. It's actually a healthy movement, since it gives younger engineers with fresh approaches a change to step up.