On 08/14/2010 05:37 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kölle
If that is true, Illumos will be ahead of the pack in no time. Bright
future I'd say.
This mostly depends on what S
Nexenta Systems initiated, Illumos Project continues its effort...
http://www.illumos.org
"""A community maintained derivative of the OpenSolaris ON source,
including open source replacements for closed bits, and additional
changes."""
All companies who were working with OpenSolaris/Solaris
Good news for Nexenta and OpenSolaris community in general:
http://www.nexenta.com/corp/blog/2010/04/06/bill-moore-joins-nexenta-advisory-board/
Nexenta invites talents and hiring OpenSolaris Kernel/API engineers. If
you are in SF bay area and you think you are qualified, send your resume
by f
Also:
NexentaStor Community Edition (3.0.0-1):
http://www.nexentastor.org/
This is community driven, fully integrated Open Storage platform. Can be
deployed everywhere, including enterprises, however, if one wants
enterprise-level support and features, such as Synchronous Replication,
High-A
Meanwhile, Nexenta offers various support options for OpenSolaris-based
NexentaStor:
http://www.nexenta.com/support
This is of course for storage appliances only.
Edward Martinez wrote:
Indeed, the web page with OpenSolaris support
subscription offers dissapeared and is replaced now
with Sola
Just for the sake of completeness, here is how NexentaCore's ON bits can
be re-build using pure Nexenta environment and Debian APT:
http://www.nexenta.org/projects/6/wiki/BuildingOpensolaris
Mike Gerdts wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Vikram Hegde wrote:
Hi,
Has anything changed wi
absolutely free and open: http://www.nexenta.org
Nibal wrote:
Is Nexenta free?
No need to get license
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Why not use Nexenta as a "Linux" client - it is Debian, yet with
OpenSolaris features!
Nibal wrote:
Hi All,
I need your advice :
I’m planning to migrate from windows clients OS to any Linux version, in our
organization :
Current Environment :
Solaris 10 server OS which have Oracle Ebs 10
Take a look on http://www.nexenta.org project. Might be easier for you.
paul richie wrote:
my biggest problem right now is that i can not install anything because i can't use sudo and i cant figer out how to add myself to the sudoers folder or list everything i reed on-line just said to use the s
Guys, could someone confirm that this schedule is STILL valid?
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/schedule/
I'm just wondering that because of SXCE drop - what will happen with
bi-weekly schedule and releases?
How community will know about stabilization builds, etc?
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Harry,
for enterprises or small businesses I would recommend some "supported"
solutions such as Nexenta Delorean:
http://www.nexenta.com/delorean
robocopy and rsync transports, backup browser, snapshots, ACLs, VCS,
etc, etc..
Harry Putnam wrote:
Any of you out there that use your opensol
Hi Guys,
trying to analyze this link:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/schedule/
I see the b111 was the last one marked as stabilization build. Do we
have a plan set for the next OpenSolaris stabilization build yet?
If so, is it possible to keep this page updated?
Thank you!
_
Hi All,
maybe not a big news but still a news for our great OpenSolaris
community and especially those open source developers who developing
this great Debian derivative - NexentaOS.
Read more on Evan Powell's blog:
http://www.nexenta.com/corp/index.php?option=com_mojo&Itemid=153&p=23
Pante
and we know examples when some particular bugs in open source been
addressed years later after they reported. It is all matter of resources
and priorities of course.
Oehnei wrote:
Nexenta can't even put up an image of their distribution that functions, even 4
months after 3 people post about
Just wanted to share this link as well:
http://www.nexenta.com/corp/index.php?option=com_mojo&Itemid=153&p=15
Unrealistic worst case scenario: OpenSolaris likely will continue its
development on its own. Independent companies will start offering
OpenSolaris support as Nexenta Systems does toda
Great!
uploaded to Nexenta APT now, for NCP2 users just do:
# apt-get install ndmpcopy
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 17:46 -0800, Ben Rockwood wrote:
> Vilas Deshpande, I love you!!! Thank you! I've been needing this badly!
>
>
> benr.
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Hi folks,
you might be interested in what Evan Powell (Nexenta Systems CEO)
blogging about plans on 2009, OpenSolaris and Open Storage movement:
http://www.nexenta.com/blog
and so called community "Statement of Policies":
http://www.nexenta.com/community
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> >>>
> >>> prtconf shows bge at 1648:
> >>>
> >>> dev_path=/p...@0,0/pci1022,7...@a/pci15d9,1...@5,1:bge1
> >>>dev_link=/dev/bge1
> >>>
> >>> and lspci -n sh
Very interesting development!
I went ahead and setup a domain + site:
http://www.kernelunix.org
If there is an interest - we could extend its content over time.
I like the idea of modular approach to build ON. I do believe that
kernel, libc, networking all could be delivered as separate compone
freebsd-i386
>
> They also haven't been able to get things like the wifi tools for
> FreeBSD working. I'm not saying that adapting glibc is a bad thing,
> but we need to figure out if we really want to go down this path.
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:48 AM,
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> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:55 AM, Joerg Schilling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
Hi David,
Great work!
Yes, such port makes sense and solves some of the issues (mostly GNU
libc portability) but unfortunately creates new issues, which I'm sure,
could be worked out and soon we should have more or less working first
ISO available with support for this new exciting architecture!
Anil just published nice article:
http://www.osnews.com/story/20280/Nexenta_Ubuntu_Server_with_ZFS_goodness
The idea is to engage Debian/Ubuntu community and position/create
Nexenta Server 1.0 (Hardy Heron) which will match Ubuntu Server with its
functionality + ZFS/Zones/SMF/COMSTAR goodness on
Hi All,
Hackaton is still in progress!
Here goes short history of events so far:
* NexentaCore 2.0 Alpha2 first 'testing' ISO available - ON b97/b98
based. People reported successful installations, likely we will have
official Alpha2 next week, as usual, upgradable with power of Debian
tools - b
I like your blog entry on using graphviz to view Nexenta package
dependencies graphically. Nice!
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 22:49 +0530, Anil Gulecha wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We've setup a blogging infrastructure at http://blogs.nexenta.org. If
> you have a Nexenta blog, or want one let us know, and we'll
Hey folks,
just saw another cool news this morning - Nexenta Systems released
documentation for remote API and Windows SDK with demos for accessing
NexentaStor. News itself:
http://www.nexenta.com/corp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=154&Itemid=56
ZFS and the rest of appliance function
Hi folks,
wanted to share some exciting news with you. Pogo Linux shipping
NexentaStor pre-installed boxes, like this one 16TB - 24TB:
http://www.pogolinux.com/quotes/editsys?sys_id=3989
And here is announce:
http://www.nexenta.com/corp/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=129&Itemid=56
P
This is to announce availability of NexentaCore 2.0 Alpha1 - Debian
Native OpenSolaris environment and platform. (unstable "Hardy" branch)
NexentaCore 2.0 Alpha1 Release Highlights:
--
* 3392 packages ported over just two weeks of Hardy Hackathon
This is to announce availability of NexentaCore 1.0.1 - Debian Native
OpenSolaris environment and platform. (stable "Elatte" branch)
NexentaCore 1.0.1 Release Highlights:
-
* OpenSolaris b85+ based (x86 32-bit and 64-bit, non-debug), with
critical
Hi,
A lot of fun these days and a lot of achievements!
June's Hackathon-in-progress status:
* Debian tools such as: devscripts, dpkg, apt, debarchiver, etc all
ported
* compiled bunch of NCP 2.0 packages (gcc prerequisites)
* newisys-nas.stanford.edu mac
Dear OpenSolaris Developers and Users!
Starting this Saturday, we are inviting all Debian/OpenSolaris
developers and users to participate in our first Hackathon
event.
Hackathon starts on this Saturday 05/31/2008 and continues during first
week of June. Development coordinated at #nexenta on free
Correct. Also:
NexentaCore - 1.0 (stable b82+ based)
NexentaCore - 1.0.1-test3 (unstable b85+ based)
NexentaStor - 1.0 (b85+ based + some patches from b87...b90 + commercial
drivers)
On Sat, 2008-05-17 at 09:30 -0700, MC wrote:
> FYI NexentaCore and NexentaStor are two different distributions.
>
Ubuntu Hardy - next Long Term Support (LTS) release.
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 15:01 -0800, joseph schafer wrote:
> erast,
>
> thank you for all of the info.
>
> >From my searches, it seems that folks have gotten gnome to work on ncp1.
> >Can you please provide a quick howto
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 21:48 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Simon Phipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >>>
> > >>> http://blogs.sun.com/alanbur/entry/kicking_both_tyres_together_virtualbox
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Shure you cannot use the "ae" driver that comes wich SchilliX?
> > >>
> > >
> >
http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=8f4a28c436d2dc7f866560fc6ac3a6363c73e310
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 19:56 -0800, Lucian wrote:
> Are There a metalink and bittorrent for download the iso images?
>
>
> This message posted from opensolaris.org
>
Thanks.
FYI, www.nexenta.org website is totally open for editors (except front
page) - login and change the way you like it - its Wiki after all.
On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 11:05 -0800, Tim Cook wrote:
> Just a request/hint/whatever. Finding the actual download link on that site
> is the most convol
Hi,
This is to announce Nexenta Builder 1.0!
Recently released NexentaCore 1.0 is especially well suited to serve as
a platform for application distributions due to Nexenta Builder 1.0, an
open source packaging solution included as part of NexentaCore that
enables the simple creation of 'software
Nexenta Core Platform (NexentaCP) RC5 is available at:
http://www.nexenta.org
Release highlights:
* Critical bootstrapping issue fixed
* Minor apt-clone fixes
* Minor packaging fixes
Developers and Users - join official Nexenta IRC #nexenta now!
Enjoy!
The Nexenta Team.
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On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:26 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote:
> ...and I never said that wasn't a good thing. I'm just pointing out
> that Nexenta is different.
in a good, practical and positive way... :-)
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On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:08 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2008 12:49 PM, Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 12:44 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote:
> > > Thus, I stand by the claim that Nexenta, at the very least, is a fork.
&g
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 12:44 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote:
> Thus, I stand by the claim that Nexenta, at the very least, is a fork.
You deeply mistaken here. As far as OpenSolaris is concerned - Nexenta
is NOT a fork. We share the same code base. The integration part of
userland IS a bit different, b
Nexenta Core Platform (NexentaCP) RC4 is available at:
http://www.nexenta.org
Release highlights:
* OpenSolaris build 82 (non-debug) + critical fixes from b83 [1]:
* Storage consolidation updated with build 82
* More Network drivers (sfe, igb)
* NFS and CIFS server fixes
* Xen Dom0
you could start your own APT repository and share
it with others. If you are just a user - simply wait till somebody else
will jump in and produce it for you.
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 04:50 -0800, Martti Hamunen wrote:
> Erast how can I go on...
>
> 1. X-works, but there are messages:..
NCP ships Xorg with foundation libraries only - no GUI applications, no
GNOME, no KDE, no XFCE, no GUI integration...
Complete Desktop-oriented distributions will appear later as a network
of NCP derivatives.
On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 11:18 +0800, Robin du wrote:
> On 1/28/08, Erast Benson <
Nexenta Core Platform (NexentaCP) RC3 is available at:
http://www.nexenta.org
Release highlights:
* OpenSolaris build 80+ (non-debug) + critical fixes from b81-b83 [1]:
- critical fixes for native CIFS server
- critical fixes for ZFS
- critical bug fixes for SATA and networking stacks
for RC2, switch to unstable, than do:
apt-get install x-window-system-core
On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 12:16 -0800, Martti Hamunen wrote:
> I try install NexentaCP.
> Where is X or how can I get it?
>
>
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Great job Joerg!
wrt. Ubuntu/Nexenta NCP roadmap is here:
http://www.nexenta.org/os/DevelopmentRoadmap
NCP 1.5 will be Hardy-based. Hardy is upcoming next LTS (Long Term
Support) release of Ubuntu repository. In April this year.
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 10:56 -0800, ken mays wrote:
> Have you look
Glad to announce that Nexenta team completed APT repository for Nexenta
Core Platform release!
This repository will become primary official for upcoming NCP 1.0
release after it is propagated to stable branch:
http://archive.nexenta.org/elatte-unstable/
It contains 2624 officially supported by c
Hi guys,
new article available explaining details on how enterprise-like upgrades
integrated with Nexenta Core Platform starting from RC2 using ZFS
capabilities and Debian APT:
http://www.nexenta.org/os/TransactionalZFSUpgrades
What is NexentaCP?
NexentaCP is a minimal (core) foundation that ca
what about it? (Italian accent)
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 14:21 -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> > Glad to announce that popular Solaris third-party repository Blastwave
> > 'CSW' now integrated with Nexenta APT.
> >
> > To enable it on RC2, edit /etc/apt/sources.list like this:
> >
> > - deb http://apt.
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 13:33 -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> > good point. I marked download links with blinking icon..
> >
> > though, web site is wiki based and features open edit policy for
> > everyone, so if someone on the list find something on web site which
> > needs fixing, don't hesitate -
This is great, thanks Dennis!
In our turn, we will continue CSW polishing in Nexenta and maybe one day
will make it default. It still needs fixing on our part, all bugs should
be reported here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/nexenta
and discussed on #nexenta IRC channel if time permits.
On Tue, 200
ee
> > + deb http://apt.nexenta.org elatte-unstable main contrib non-free csw
> >
> > And use as you would usually do on normal Debian server:
> >
> > $ sudo apt-get install cswgdb
> >
> > Many credits to Nexenta & Blastwave Communities for this!
>
Glad to announce that popular Solaris third-party repository Blastwave
'CSW' now integrated with Nexenta APT.
To enable it on RC2, edit /etc/apt/sources.list like this:
- deb http://apt.nexenta.org elatte-unstable main contrib non-free
+ deb http://apt.nexenta.org elatte-unstable main contrib non
Nexenta Core Platform (NexentaCP) RC2 is available at:
http://www.nexenta.org
Release highlights:
* OpenSolaris build 80+ (non-debug)
* Project integration: NWS, AVS, COMSTAR, in-kernel CIFS client
* apt-clone: ZFS-integrated safe upgrade via remote APT repository.
Support for in-plac
depends on which OpenSolaris distribution you are talking about..
For Nexenta, you can use Debian APT, its been around for 2+ years now..
Its the only option (as of today). But there is nothing preventing
distro creators to build RPM based OpenSolaris too, so Yum could be
used.
On Sat, 2008-01-12
have you disabled samba?
svcadm disable samba
On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 22:39 -0800, MC wrote:
> > 2) Unstable APT integrated with ON build 79, give it
> > a try!
>
> I tried "svcadm enable -r smb/server" from
> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/cifs-server/gettingstarted.html in
> nexentacp and i
:
> Il Wednesday 19 December 2007 23:57:07 Erast Benson ha scritto:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is the road to NCP 1.0...
> >
> > Our motto:
> >
> > """Ubuntu makes best Debian Desktop platform - Nexenta makes best
> > Debian Server/Storag
Hi All,
This is the road to NCP 1.0...
Our motto:
"""Ubuntu makes best Debian Desktop platform - Nexenta makes best Debian
Server/Storage platform."""
Some latest Nexenta related news:
1) Official Nexenta Core Platform (NCP) repository now is
http://apt.nexenta.org
2) Unstable APT integrated
http://www.gnusolaris.org/unstable-iso/ncp_beta1-test3-b68_i386.iso
Changes:
* ON b68 based
* man pages updated
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ptic package manager is really impressive
> is there a way to transform Sun package to a synaptic package?
>
> selim
>
> On 6/22/07, Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Erast Benson wrote:
> >
> > > New unstable ISO of NexentaCP
en the time comes?
Incremental ON/NWS upgrades have been provided started from A5+.. i.e. a
year ago. However, on you own risk. This is Alpha software, but
technology is there.
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/var/lib/apt/*
$ sudo apt-get update
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s.
> > I just installed it on my MBP using Parallels...
>
> What is "Parallels"?
VMWare-like software for MacOSX
>
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On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:26 -0400, Francois Saint-Jacques wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 11:51:08PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote:
> > More details on NexentaCP will be available soon...
>
> Is it based on Alpha7?
Alpha7 is the Desktop-oriented ISO, however they share the same main
installer supports ZFS/Boot type of installations
on single disk or 2+ mirror configuration. For now, only "Auto"
partitioning mode could be used for ZFS root partition creation.
More details on NexentaCP will be available soon...
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ing on this feature and building their
variants with modified .config files.
As far as Embedded OpenSolaris is concerned (if any), in my opinion it
should just single option in bld-env which strips down existing
components and produces reduced fat proto.
> Currently all kernel components are
o create a distribution as none did exist before.
>
> Why did other people create _different_ distributions?
Same reason. Because Debian-based GNU/OpenSolaris never existed before.
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ing many other things will be solved
> before the summer is out.
You reading my mind. I just wanted to suggest that we need an accent on
project emancipation. Jump start it... It would also make sense if Sun
would help Google to pay some $$$ to the students involved...
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milarly, has done much for SPARC and Xorg - can't he drive that?
>
> Moinak's team clearly has expertise in LiveCD and the 'friendly' Xfce
> environment - and a 'noob friendly' userspace - can't they drive that?
>
> Erast and Alex have a cle
On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 13:32 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 16/05/07, Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 22:37 +1200, Glynn Foster wrote:
> > > > One problem I have is that whenever corporate gets their minds around
> > > > pr
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r problem is closed binaries. Only Sun has source code for it..
How do you think "any other vendor" can offer support independently from
Sun?
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3 little demos by Martin Man. Available as of today.
http://martinman.net/software/nexenta
Thanks Martin.
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if i'm not mistaken synaptic suppose to do that auto magically..
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ON/NWS build 61 is now available for your regular APT upgrades.
To upgrade your Alpha 6 NexentaOS box do:
a) Switch your /etc/apt/sources.list to elatte-unstable.
d) Do upgrade:
# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
# reboot
Enjoy!
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On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 16:38 -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> Really .. its so great to see Mr. Debian here. :-)
+1 :-)
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On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 12:22 -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Erast Benson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 08:18 -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote:
> >>
> >> But that just brings us back to Joe's original point:
> >>
> >> Isn
I don't think you really care about .deb packages either, what I *think*
> > you're saying is "give me a packaging system that works like apt does!",
>
> But that just brings us back to Joe's original point:
>
> Isn't that Nexenta?
>
> Not
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 21:25 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> I would like to see OpenSolaris buildable on OpenSolaris.
> This needs that some more pieces of code need to be at least
> redistributable.
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all targeted bugs will be closed:
http://www.gnusolaris.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&milestone=Elatte+Unstable+Beta+1
This really depends on capabilities of our community.
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> primary focus at first will be to remove libc_i18n.a, and that must be
> integrated without delay, but ultimately I'd like for closed bins to
> disappear completely.
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; rules code may be checked in.
>
> It's all moving slower than I want, but it's moving. There's a lot of
> infrastructure required to do all of this, and we're bumping into some
> issues. (Ask Stephen Lau about the automounter sometime. :-)) But,
> what you as
rnel hackers. Not only it will increase community's input
but also will stimulate outsiders to commit more often.
This would also help outsiders to understand ON code and will create
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unfortunately, I do not see up-and-to-the-right type of numbers,
but at least numbers are steady, this gives me more hopes that it is not
to late to fix that if at all possible/needed.
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 19:28 +, Peter Tribble wrote:
> On 2/1/07, Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
ribed/unsubscribed during certain period? Number of downloads may
be?
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 09:55 -0800, John Plocher wrote:
> Erast Benson wrote:
> > I didn't say we are dead community. :-) And I said almost zero
> > participation from outside of Sun
>
>
> What are you
ave no plans to open
> source the associated code. Perhaps that's not good enough, but it's
> the best we can do.
>
> I will put it on my list to update the page listed above now that an
> open source version of e1000g is available.
>
> Bonnie
>
>
&g
uot;pending review" (so that an e1000g release
> does not surprise those working on cloning it) but in many cases we
> can't even tell why we can't open the source.
This is a great idea, this way we could avoid double efforts.
> Lawyers are funny that way.
no, that is fine.
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> So will Stallman ask us to call it GNU/Solaris? It obviously doesn't ap
cense that Debian (you?) will
> fork a GNU only version.
whatever it proves, it wasn't a good experience...
And if I'm not mistaken Joerg refused to dual-license cdrecord.
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On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 13:19 +0900, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
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> Alan Burlison wrote On 02/01/07 09:11,:
> > Erast Benson wrote:
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> >> Isn't the fact that after almost 2 years of existence we still
> >> considered a minority community with almost zero
g at ON consolidation. And yes, we are growing, but
not fast enough to me...
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Kudos to Sun who made it possible! :-)
http://hg.genunix.org/onnv-gate.hg?cs=b2b402e6f340
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On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 16:14 -0800, Shawn Walker wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 18:28 +, Darren J Moffat
> > wrote:
> > > Erast Benson wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 09:57 -0800, John Plocher
> > wrote:
> > > >> As Dennis, Casp
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 00:24 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 09:57 -0800, John Plocher wrote:
> > > As Dennis, Casper and others have said: What is the problem that
> > > dual licensing is
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