Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-16 Thread Jonathan Edwards
Jörg the Börg wrote: > > The GPL is a anti-collaboration license. > > The CDDL is a _license_ (text/name) owned by Oracle. not so sure that i agree on the GPL FUD being anti-collaboration (particularly if you follow the amount of collaboration happening on a daily basis LKML) as for the CDDL

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-15 Thread Jonathan Edwards
> Nexenta Systems initiated, Illumos Project continues > its effort... > > http://www.illumos.org > > """A community maintained derivative of the > OpenSolaris ON source, > including open source replacements for closed bits, > and additional > changes.""" > > All companies who were working wit

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-14 Thread Jonathan Edwards
erik wrote: > The unfortunate thing here is that most of the value in an Operating > System is attributable to ADOPTION RATES. That is, the wider the OS is > used, the more revenue potential there is. Now, the per-instance > revenue potential tends to drop off, but the overall revenue ramps up > ve

Re: [osol-discuss] New onnv distro naming suggestion

2010-08-04 Thread Jonathan Edwards
>> Unfortunately. Good project, dreadful name. > in a way "illumos" interprets to SUN OS :) not quite .. illumos actually sounds a bit more like the latin masculine singular accusative case (direct object of a transitive verb) for that or those .. ie: we developed THAT, or Oracle abandoned THAT

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-07 Thread Jonathan Edwards
yeah .. not quite as quirky in ubuntu - but the real thing in compiz/emerald that drives me nuts is the sheer volume of configuration options - i think apple got it right to simplify the visual effects down to a few key ones and make them really simple for people to configure/use personally the

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-06 Thread Jonathan Edwards
"Buy a Mac" classic and completely appropriate .. to which I can only add .. You want to develop for [Open]Solaris or Linux? get a VM and run it on your Mac i don't know about you, but personally I'd rather spend my time on my family, social life, or developing useful pieces of infrastructure i

[osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-06 Thread Jonathan Edwards
[Open]Solaris .. It's too tied to the Sun (and the old planetary) marketing themes For a visionary company like Oracle I think they need to call it something more like the "Necronomicon" .. in order to retrieve it you'll need to speak the magic words Klaatu... verata... n... Necktie. Nectar. N

Re: [osol-discuss] [on-discuss] ON/SXCE bi-weekly schedule not valid anymore?

2009-08-19 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: Jonathan Edwards wrote: (2) Decent pre/post-install methodologies: I do understand the desire to containerize this sort of thing within SMF, but i do not believe that there is a current mechanism defined to start/stop SMF services around a

Re: [osol-discuss] ON/SXCE bi-weekly schedule not valid anymore?

2009-08-19 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: i understand that the SXCE binary downloads are going away .. (just wondering if I need to transition to a private build system until some of the IPS smoke clears) No, you need to transition to working with IPS. There are internal pre

Re: [osol-discuss] ON/SXCE bi-weekly schedule not valid anymore?

2009-08-19 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Erast wrote: Guys, could someone confirm that this schedule is STILL valid? http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/on/schedule/ I'm just wondering that because of SXCE drop - what will happen with bi-weekly schedule and releases? The on

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Rich Teer wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Shawn Walker wrote: > >> /usr/has/bin/sh >> >> ...since it is a "hasbin" :) > > Groan! korny ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [ogb-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-02 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Nov 2, 2007, at 14:41, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: >> On 02/11/2007, Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> The community may (or may not) choose to *GIVE* the name to the >>> project >>> to use. >>> >> >> The community hasn't been given the right to give the name

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-11-02 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Nov 2, 2007, at 12:33, Shawn Walker wrote: >> err actually .. >> http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/ >> >> just follow the star source link, but then again some might also have >> to admit that samqfs is a valuable filesystem in addition to zfs > > star is Schily's Tar Archiver. Sorry, i

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-11-02 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Nov 1, 2007, at 07:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> >>> Could you explain this? Your claim does not look to be correct. >>> >>> >>> So: who is doing the work on star? Where is the project page? >>> Is there an OpenSolaris ready tarbal people can

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [ogb-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-02 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:42, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 13:16 -0400, Ian Murdock wrote: >> I don't even know where to begin. > > You should start with the choice of name. > > Names are very important. I don't agree Bill .. this focus on names and renaming and rebranding that s

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-02 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:16, Ian Murdock wrote: > All right. > > I don't even know where to begin. hear hear! thanks for your candid insight Ian! .. i've only been at sun for about 10 years now, but from what i've seen it's always been a chaotic mess of consolidations replete with long pointle

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Cloning a disk w/ ZFS in it

2006-10-22 Thread Jonathan Edwards
you don't really need to do the prtvtoc and fmthard with the old Sun labels if you start at cylinder 0 since you're doing a bit -> bit copy with dd .. but, keep in mind: - The Sun VTOC is the first 512B and s2 *typically* should start at cylinder 0 (unless it's been redefined .. check!) - T