Says who? Do you think that everything on the Earth must be open source in
terms of GPL? Then it's communism.
Sources are here. You can start your own project or connect to any of existing.
OpenSolaris has many great features which are very usable in production. So
even if Oracle decide to
Use correct style for naming? ;-) So small/big letters, numbers and underscore.
Not that mess you have.
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You're just troll. You're not even BSD fan, because BSD is about pragmatic
approach to use what's appropriate for some situation. So I prefer OpenBSD and
Solaris/OpenSolaris, but work even with HP-UX, IBM AIX, a lot of Linuxes,
Windows, Mac Os X and so on. You even totally misunderstood what I
Somewhere on forum is presentation from conference in April or so where was
some info about OpenSolaris and that its development will continue and that it
will stay open source. So it's starting to be like RedHat/Fedora. You can
download RedHat for free as Solaris, right now is Solaris 10 for
This is behavior of dinosaurs and all of us know what was their story. Who
cares about HP-UX or IBM AIX? People which are working with them are mostly
older then 50 or so. Younger people are pushing what they know better
Linux/Windows and this change is visible even in data centers, but of
No thanks. I'm working with Linux and it's more then enough for me. Ubuntu is
at maximum fine for desktop, but still I prefer and use OpenBSD for desktop.
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You mean something like this?
Provide the best development platform possible. Provide full source access to
developers and users, including the ability to look at CVS tree changes
directly. Users can even look at our source tree and changes directly on the
web!
Integrate good code from any
IPS repositories are simply death because of speed and crazy lack of
applications because of stupid IP and patent issues which doesn't help
anything. They just cause slow or no development at all. And Oracle/Sun must be
in line with them.
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You forgot about only one real alternative for ZFS which is Hammer FS in
DragonflyBSD plus other new features like swapcache, tmpfs, focus on Single
System Image in future and so on. OpenSolaris/Solaris are great systems. Oracle
is just big company where every decision takes years and yes, they
Those secrets are covered in contract so no need for NDA and at least in most
of Europe countries there are laws which cover similar situations too. So in
case you talk about some real internal stuff of company you can be immediately
displaced and there will be info about it in your documents
No, job contract is something very different when comparing with NDA and I
really don't have those limitations in my contract.
Again nothing about this future secret in my contract. That's part of our
job. We offer control of infrastructure to our customers so they can buy
product from us or
Of course that no one can disclose inner details (pass, id,) of his/her
company. But it's about personality. You don't need NDA for that and especially
not those stupid NDA's which prohibit to talk even about colour of carpets 5
years after you leave.
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Use RTFM before rm -rf in next time, ok? ;-)
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2240/userdel-1m?l=ena=view
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OT
I'm still under NDA - it's a
standard part of the employment contracts at both Sun Oracle and
probably pretty much every tech company in the world.
I'm in a tech company. But company which focuses only on open source so no NDA
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I'm curious why your e-mail response is not here? Do you worry about something?
Our efforts emphasize portability, standardization, correctness,
proactive security and integrated cryptography.
only 2 of 5 things are about security. Anyway anyone who connects his/her
Yes, only base system is audited and they don't have so much resources to
provide similar audit for packages, but at least they're trying to do that. But
if you will try it at laptop/desktop then you will quickly find that it's more
stable then any other OS in its stable version even in
I'm not so happy about x86/x64 because of its really old and unsecure
architecture. If money and power of Oracle will bring that platform down at
least at some of fronts then the better for all of us. Maybe another time for
SPARC laptops/workstations? ;-)
Check eg. this cheap one
Ok, did you try it on Eee? The most complaints with Eee and similar platforms
is thanks to vga chipset which is not able to play HD movies. I think that this
netbook can't play HD too because of chipset too, but we are talking about CPU
platform. Read eg. this http://www.osnews.com/story/21530
As you mentioned OpenBSDit leads to different question :
Why OpenBSD project is able to provide new release every day or second day
which is so stable (much more then most of stable releases of other OS's) and
other projects can't do similar even if they have 14 days or 6 months for that?
quote
The only bug report I find was closed by one of the pidgin maintainers from
Sun's Beijing office as not possible since the QQ network owners don't allow
third-party clients:
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7767
/quote
ICQ is not allowed on 3rd party clients too and voala
Did you try latest dev build from www.genunix.org ? I have motherboard with
similar RAID device at home and it's only RAID. Can't use it as two separate
SATA ports so I disabled it.
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quote
osol-131 is in pkg.opensolaris.org/dev are packages that are supported
by Sun through her internal QA etc. So the quality are much better that
that from of pkgfactory.o.o.
/quote
It's just theory which doesn't look to be true regarding quality of last (at
least) 2 builds :-(
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Post useful description ;-)
Send outputs of these commands :
prtdiag -v
prtconf -d
pfexec scanpci
smbios
dmesg
It's better to send some of them as attachment because they are long.
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Hmm bug report is not really available. So funny. Sounds like Linux-way :-(
Btw if you check this
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do;jsessionid=ac123bb1575d038b187cc1475573?bug_id=6917808
you will get more info.
Anyway this document is (however) still valid
Ups, so sorry to all for bad info. But it open another question. Where can I
find which packages are new in contrib repository? I can see just date of last
update on this page and nothing more
http://pkg.opensolaris.org/contrib/en/index.shtml and no info in announce on
this forum too. Is there
Hei to my new home soon ;-)
I don't use RSS on any site so this icon wasn't in my focus all the time.
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Yea, however with another ugly bug for zones, one for X (but at least with
workaround) and old X bug from 130 is still there.
And only 2(!) new packages. It will be fine to know how much important it is to
use this page http://pkgfactory.opensolaris.org/ . It doesn't look that they
follow our
There is one superb tool which you can't find on any other OS. DTrace ;-)
Take a look eg. here:
http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/dtrace_cc.html
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c - controller
t - target
d - disk
s - slice
p - partition
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Uff, you want to build firewall on snv_125 which is missing some security
updates? Do you have even Gnome and so on installed? I hope that my services
will never go trough this.
In your case I will use
You didn't read install document so you made wrong install. With ZFS you must
forgot your old behavior with disks/partitions/filesystems. You can get max
from ZFS when you use it for whole disk. Then you can divide your disk to
datasets as you want.
PS: Maybe you have a chance to add your
OT
If you will know how bad is NVidia HW and its SW then you will be happy to have
different piece of HW. Until this time you must use their crappy HW/SW
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- High availability and load balacing firewalls
If you know OpenBSD and especially its pf(4) then you will know after test of
IPf that pf(4) is a way better
- VPNs
There is no tun(4) device in OpenSolaris so no OpenVPN, vpnc and so on. Yes,
you can compile it, but no support for it from Sun
Oh come on. From which systems those really bad ideas are? You were using
really old version of OpenSolaris snv_79 so someone said to you that you must
try latest version. You say that you use 2009.06 so I suppose that you have
really 2009.06 which is from June and not something really actual.
Why do you need that?
I suppose that there will be some electric contact or something like that.
Maybe you may find more details in documentation for server
http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/prod/sparc.t5240~t5240#hic
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Where are some outputs for zfs and zpool commands to see what do you have? We
don't have magic ball from glass to guess what do you have on your system. If
you need something minimalistic then try eg. this
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+jeos/
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1) Buy more memory. Update OpenSolaris trough dev repository and post outputs
of 'vmstat 1 10' and 'top' commands
2) It's OpenSolaris. Read about ZFS first, try it and you will hate ext* very
quickly.
3) Memory and maybe some problem with your HW thanks to info that your
installation take 95%
1) Sure. Then why do you talk about school? I know a lot of people which
weren't able to successfully end their primary school and they are real gurus
now because they learned it by them self. Because people are different? People
from Unix world use mainly words 'package manager' and people
1) Installing application doesn't require too much knowledge. You can set
repositories in GUI Package Manager and install packages from there too. So
what's your problem?
Which school you have? I'm just curious... In OpenSolaris there is a GUI
available on Live CD and immediately after
If you haven't subscriptions from Sun then you haven't updates for apps and
security updates too. So switch to dev version and test it again.
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1) because you don't pay for support in case you have 2009.06 release or
you don't use dev repository where you can get these updates for free
2) why do you use Adobe Reader (with its hell of loaded scripts and unneeded
stuff) when you have Evince in base system? No problem with Evince and
I know that pkgsrc is available, but integration is not so good and results are
not so superb. Still a lot of problems.
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1) I use current of OpenBSD, but it's because of their release process. Their
current version is far better then any other OS in stable version. OpenSolaris
dev versions are not so good, but still very usable for normal work. And you
have BE + ZFS + snapshots sou you don't need to be worry. In
To add something another. Operating systems are very complex. And I mean VERY.
So asking why not everything is not in GUI and easy as possible is like to ask
NASA if they can provide Space shuttle for you with only two buttons labeled
Launch and Landing ;-)
In IT it's very similar. You can
I think that this man pages (with some real examples) is enough
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ncapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+Currentarch=i386format=html
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Mmm no one mentioned Sun Explorer http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-6613 and
maybe better in OpenSolaris similar app written in Dtrace
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+dtrace/dexplorer
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Why do you want to do that? In production environment only admins can do that.
It's because of many reasons.
With RBAC or sudo you can provide similar functionality in CLI, but I don't
know about GUI interface. There was Sun Management Console in Solaris, but it's
not in OpenSolaris as I know.
RedHat and Microsoft get broken? Unbelievable :-D (just joke). I hope that I
will work soon with OpenBSD only.
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So at least... what devices do you have on IRQ 16? What shows 'pfexec intrstat'
command?
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2009.06 release is snv_111, but 2010.02 preview is from snv_112 to snv_127
If you have snv_127 then you can't update because no newer version yet in
repositories. If you have snv_111 then post output of 'pkg publisher' command
because you must have dev repository set for updates from snv_111
I don't write anything about GUI Package Manager. Set dev repository as your
preferred and then try 'pfexec pkg image-update -v' and post output here. And
if you have snv_127 then you can't update anything because no newer versions in
repositories.
And why you can't do some parts in GUI?
I'm not from Sun. My preferred OS is different. Who says that there are plans
to have Solaris/OpenSolaris as mainstream? Package manager is not broken. I
tested it now and it's working as expected in snv_111 and snv_127 too.
So your network is broken and you think that it's a problem of Package
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855
Every OS has bugs, but it needs a lot of time from user/admin to discover it.
You talk about update/upgrade/install in every post so what do you want in
fact? Now you talk only about install? Ok. So did you try 'pfexec pkg install
-v openoffice' command in
BTW thanks to you some good old thread come to my mind again :-) It's from
another OS, but I think that a lot of people will find it funny too :-) So here
it is :
Correction, a professional OS that requires its users to be
professionals. Not a bunch of whining windows update people that have
ou and maybe you will find this thread useful
http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=118859tstart=0
To learn how to ask questions and how to react to people which offer some help
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BTW he use wifi for this problem : I am updating over a wireless 11b network
And I was asking for some outputs too and no response yet. Maybe you can expect
something similar like why those commands aren't implemented in GUI yet. heh
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http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
where is exact info which versions do you have, which command you try to run to
provide update/upgrade, where is exact error message you received during
update/upgrade and so on
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See posts below.
Everything is in man pages (official source of documentation). Sometimes more
easier sources for read are here
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/documentation
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Maybe this PDF will be useful for you too
http://www.opensolaris.cz/system/files/SunClusterForTieto.pdf
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man pkg
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How about a nice big cup of RTFM? ;-)
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+ha-clusters/Documentation
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It works, but it doesn't mean that it works well. Don't know why Sun decided to
reinvent wheel (the most stupid idea in Unix world opposite to K.I.S.S.). There
is pkgsrc available for Solaris or there are packaging systems from OpenBSD,
FreeBSD, ... with good licence.
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Maybe someone can't hear that, but you need newer HW for OpenSolaris to get
good performance and support.
Maybe you can take a look at DragonflyBSD and their Hammer FS (snapshots, 64bit
filesystem, on-line checks of metadata and so on - quite similar to ZFS) or
OpenBSD if you want to stable,
Mmmm Solaris/OpenSolaris have great features like ZFS, Dtrace, SMF, Containers
so if you are developer or you need some storage server then these are superb
for you (OK for storage server I will take DragonflyBSD in count too). For
other cases and especially desktop I will use something
Mmm maybe because it sounds like one of those win printers which are not ok
when comparing with standards?
http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h1574.htm says that you need driver from CD
for USB connections and then you can use network connections. So maybe some
magic in USB driver? Real USB
1) Yes, but you must hope that it will be ok, but I'm not so optimistic in this
case. You know Sun is company from USA and they must play well with advocacy. I
prefer this politic - http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html - no problem with
multimedia and so on and with strong crypto too as system is
1) You know those licensing reasons and sharks in suites ;-) But you don't need
compile http://solaris.homeunix.com/ of course not everything is so OK
2) There are worst reasons for this ;-) Like non-standard libraries in system
for C/C++ so even with Sun Studio you can't compile some apps. I
You can run Solaris apps in compat mode under OpenBSD ;-)
zfs - no , but you can try real competitor from BSD world in this area -
DragonflyBSD
zones - chroot of course, not same, but no one says that OpenBSD is good for
everything
virtualization - no until developers correct their buggy
https://imo.im/
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Some light on Adaptec ;-)
Note: In the past years Adaptec has lied to us repeatedly about forthcoming
documentation which would have allowed us to stabilize, improve and manage RAID
support for these (rather buggy) raid controllers.
As a result, we do not recommend the Adaptec cards for use.
It can't be better as Sun must be polite on laws in USA. Things that don't need
proprietary codecs are without problems. Flash 10 is available in extra
repository which you can get here pkg.sun.com or you can download it from Adobe
pages.
For other multimedia I can really recommend this site
Here are some possibilities for virtualization under OpenSolaris :
http://www.opensolaris.cz/system/files/virtualization.pdf
If you want to use CentOS you can do that directly in zones :
http://www.opensolaris.cz/system/files/ContainersForTieto.pdf
And all documentation you can find in man
Why so obscure repositories?
Take a look here http://solaris.homeunix.com/ and this is correct IPS
http://ips.homeunix.com:10906/
And for your own compilation find two posts about Mplayer on this page
http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/
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Read this part from OpenBSD FAQ -
15.4.7 - How do I tweak these ports to have maximum performance?
OpenBSD is about stability and security. Just like the GENERIC kernel is the
default and the only supported kernel, the ports team makes sure the ports work
and are stable. If you want to switch
man pages are documentation about system for users, admins and developers. Just
because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it's bad.
If some user has brain he don't need to go through it. He can use right click
in GUI as in Windows. And name home is very clean description of for what
Again and again. You don't read anything about ZFS.
1) You can't have full home partition if you have some free space on disk
because ZFS will use free space for your file in home. Of course you can set
quotas so user can use say 20GB of space and so on
2) Same situation. Until you have some
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid , that's why Unix-world use a lot of text.
Because people can read text no some binary data stuff ;-) And yes, you can
build nice GUI on text base as you can see in MacOs or OpenSolaris or Ubuntu.
OS = Operating system
system mean most of the times some complex
You can have full power of Unix in GUI if you know what do. You don't know so
you must use what someone prepared for you. If it's not what you are looking
for then you can use your old solution or try another. It's a freedom.
Just because you don't understand power of CLI doesn't mean that it's
Just because you were visiting some school doesn't mean that you have
appropriate knowledge.
Restricting user to home directory is not too much restrictive. Normal user
don't need anything outside of his/her home directory. If he/she use some apps
which need something like that then developer
http://www.opensolaris.org
http://docs.sun.com
And you think that we are somewhat bad on you, but it's not true. A lot of
people are giving help to you, but it looks like you don't want to listen and
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Make OS for newbies and only newbies will want to use it.
If 80% or 90% of users use something doesn't mean that it's good for me too.
You are trying to tweak something to Windows way. Maybe by accident only, but
still. A lot of friends around me have Ubuntu, either parents,
It's reply on this :
I know basic unix things like file permissions and file system navigation. I
gone thru basic unix and shell dumb theories / commands in my computer science
graduation course. Since 1997, I have been using windows and installing and
reinstalling windows and several user
Eh what? Of course it's working.
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Why is it urgent? You installed something without preparations and reading
something about OpenSolaris? At least these :
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/2009.06/getstart/prepare.html
http://wikis.sun.com/display/OpenSolarisInfo200906/Administering+Your+Automatic+Network+Connection
You used Windows without any guide? So you know without any reading how to do
proper setup of Internet computer based on Windows in mmc, you know how to work
with registry without some guide, you know how to use support tools in
cooperation with your initial setup and so on? Then sorry for my
:-D
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If you want to have garbage on your disk then use another OS. Packaging systems
like IPS and others are here to have consistent hierarchy of installed packages
on your system for easy maintenance, easy writing of apps from third vendors
and so on.
If you are installing some app which is not in
man pfexec
man passwd
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1) Use as much as possible apps from official repositories or some third party
repositories
2) If it's not enough then consider using some virtualization
3) If it's still not enough then learn how to compile apps on OpenSolaris, how
to prepare apps for IPS in OpenSolaris and so on
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This
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/documentation/
http://wikis.sun.com/display/OpenSolarisInfo200906/Home
man man
As a user you don't need anything then your home directory. And until you learn
some about Unix and read some of links above don't touch anything outside of
your home or you will
1) You completely misunderstood ZFS so that's why you don't know why it needs
at least 1GB of RAM for normal function and even why it can run with less then
512MB of RAM
2) Learn something about Solaris
3) Use OS which is appropriate for your needs and don't listen to PRs then
something is
And again. You don't understand Unix world. Read something about it first.
Application settings are stored in your home directory so you can't loose them
after upgrade of OS or installation of new version of app. Some apps may have
additional directories with specific settings but it's
Ou. Great. Thanks to point. I think that man hier will be more appropriate.
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Post output of :
prtconf -v | grep -i audio
as a starting point
Is audiotest running for you?
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Don't think about it as Linux. It has more with BSD systems. Like OpenBSD. You
have release, you can have stable with security updates but only for base
system (sunsolve.sun.com). If you want updates for packages too then you must
use current(dev). Which is not problem. It's problem when you
Some of these tools can answer your question :
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/observability/
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It's not bad habit on Solaris. top is somewhat bad habit when you have a lot of
users on some system using it in one time ;-)
http://www.brendangregg.com/DTrace/prstatvstop.html
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Did you set your login during installation or after that?
What show roles and privileges commands?
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man xrandr
man xorg.conf
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