Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Gupta writes: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179+I0+T+M10+P1+Q Ah, a license fork. What fun! ... Personally I think this is a complete perversion of the open source movement, and can't

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-31 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/30/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Gupta writes: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179+I0+T+M10+P1+Q Ah, a license fork. What fun! ... Personally I think this is a complete perversion of the open source

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-31 Thread Norm Jacobs
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote: the issues experienced trying to setup printers in Solaris, its a nightmare One thing I wouldn't mind seeing is CUPS + Gutenprint + Foomatic - given Foomatic and Gutenprint are in Solaris today. Foomatic is reasonably current, but could use an update. We are in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-31 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 12:12 -0500, Norm Jacobs wrote: Windows hosted printers should work from Solaris Nevada. If you bring up the printmgr and add a New Network Printer, you should be able to select URI for the protocol, and set the destination to an SMB uri (smb://window-box/printer).

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-31 Thread Norm Jacobs
Windows hosted printers should work from Solaris Nevada. If you bring up the printmgr and add a New Network Printer, you should be able to select URI for the protocol, and set the destination to an SMB uri (smb://window-box/printer). Since Windows expects the client side to generate printer

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Ché Kristo
I heard that they bought cups but stated that: Apple Inc. has trademarked the Common UNIX Printing System, CUPS, and CUPS logo. These names and logos may be used freely in any direct port or binary distribution of CUPS. To use them in derivative products, please contract Apple Inc. for written

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Brian Gupta
http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179+I0+T+M10+P1+Q On 7/30/07, Ché Kristo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that they bought cups but stated that: Apple Inc. has trademarked the Common UNIX Printing System, CUPS, and CUPS logo. These names and logos may be used freely in any direct port or

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Brian Gupta
On 7/30/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Gupta writes: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179+I0+T+M10+P1+Q Ah, a license fork. What fun! Personally I think this is a complete perversion of the open source movement, and can't believe this hasn't gotten wider coverage...

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread James Carlson
Brian Gupta writes: http://www.cups.org/articles.php?L179+I0+T+M10+P1+Q Ah, a license fork. What fun! -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems / 1 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Norm Jacobs
A couple of weeks ago, Mike announced that Apple bought CUPS back in February and is now employing him. From what I read, Mike will be working on something other than CUPS (don't know what) at Apple, but will still be supporting CUPS. As for forking the code... For a while now, the

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Brian Gupta
Here's the basic truth about Apple and OpenSource: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200602/apple.html -Brian On 7/30/07, Norm Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of weeks ago, Mike announced that Apple bought CUPS back in February and is now employing him. From what I read, Mike will be

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Norm Jacobs
That doesn't paint a particularly pleasant picture. Let's hope, for the sake of those that have bet the farm on CUPS, that it maintains a more independent status. I don't expect that anything can disappear from it or that there will be a significant fork, but the Open Source community *may*

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Scott Rotondo
Brian Gupta wrote: Here's the basic truth about Apple and OpenSource: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200602/apple.html The first half-dozen paragraphs, describing the obstacles facing external developers when the Apple source was still reasonably open, seem eerily familiar. s/Apple/Sun/g

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Tom Haynes
Scott Rotondo wrote: Brian Gupta wrote: Here's the basic truth about Apple and OpenSource: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200602/apple.html The first half-dozen paragraphs, describing the obstacles facing external developers when the Apple source was still reasonably open, seem

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread James Carlson
Tom Haynes writes: Scott Rotondo wrote: The first half-dozen paragraphs, describing the obstacles facing external developers when the Apple source was still reasonably open, seem eerily familiar. [...] With the exception that Sun is trying to open things up. I.e., an external person

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 00:29 -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: They have forked a closed source version for Mac OS X ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org One thing I wouldn't mind seeing is CUPS + Gutenprint + Foomatic -

Re: [osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-30 Thread Ché Kristo
Note that No developer is required to provide these exceptions in a derived work. So as copyright holder Apple is reserving compliance with GPL when applied to their own operating system's but this exception does not have to be extended when a develepor distributes his/her derived work. So

[osol-discuss] Apple bought CUPS source code.

2007-07-29 Thread Brian Gupta
They have forked a closed source version for Mac OS X ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org