Thanks, Pavan. Your project proposal has been seconded. I'll contact you
offline to get you set up.
Eric
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007, Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
This project will be delivered in
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
What is an extended partition in this context ?
Oh, apologies for the room for ambiguity.
It is DOS/Windows Extended partitions.
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To
Pavan Chandrashekar - Sun Microsystems wrote:
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
What is an extended partition in this context ?
Oh, apologies for the room for ambiguity.
On 1/16/07, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pavan Chandrashekar - Sun Microsystems wrote:
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
What is an extended partition in this
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Cyril Plisko wrote:
That is not entirely correct. Extended partition, IIRC, allows you
to break the limit of 4 primary partition per disk. Once the extended
partition is created another 4 partitions can be nested inside it.
And so on. Think Russian dolls.
I wish.
There's
Cyril Plisko wrote:
On 1/16/07, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pavan Chandrashekar - Sun Microsystems wrote:
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
What is an
Cyril Plisko wrote:
On 1/16/07, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
[
To be exact, the partition IDS are :
EXTDOS - Systid 5
FDISK_EXTLBA - Systid 15
]
So why should we be installing an OpenSolaris distribution in to a
partition type that belongs to DOS/Windows ?
That is not
Frank Hofmann wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Cyril Plisko wrote:
That is not entirely correct. Extended partition, IIRC, allows you
to break the limit of 4 primary partition per disk. Once the extended
partition is created another 4 partitions can be nested inside it.
And so on. Think Russian
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Cyril Plisko wrote:
[...]
Oh, apologies for the room for ambiguity.
It is DOS/Windows Extended partitions.
[
To be exact, the partition IDS are :
EXTDOS - Systid 5
FDISK_EXTLBA - Systid 15
]
So why should we be installing an OpenSolaris distribution in to a
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Yes but the partition IDs that this project is suggesting be used are
explicitly tagged as being for DOS or Windows.
Just to clarify more:
A partition tagged with EXTDOS or EXTLBA will contain another
partition table. This is
called an EBR - Extended Boot Record.
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Yes but the partition IDs that this project is suggesting be used
are explicitly tagged as being for DOS or Windows.
Just to clarify more:
A partition tagged with EXTDOS or EXTLBA will contain another
partition table. This is
called an EBR -
Hmmm...
No idea of standards document! I do not think any such document exists
at all for
MBR partitioning scheme. See this:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/GPT_FAQ.mspx
(Question: 2. What is wrong with MBR partitioning ?).
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Yes but the partition IDs that this project is suggesting be used are
explicitly tagged as being for DOS or Windows.
Ok.
Extended partitions is not new to OpenSolaris. PCFS handles it
internally. It is convenient to have them supported in
Pavan Chandrashekar - Sun Microsystems wrote:
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Yes but the partition IDs that this project is suggesting be used
are explicitly tagged as being for DOS or Windows.
Ok.
Extended partitions is not new to OpenSolaris. PCFS handles it
internally.
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Darren J Moffat wrote:
What would happen if there was already a Linux installation in the given
Extended partition, or DOS/Windows was using it for a drive ?
Extended partitions aren't directly useable by Linux, or DOS, or Windows.
All those OSes make logical partitions
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
This project will be delivered in multiple phases. The first phase is to
introduce all OS changes necessary to support booting from and managing
extended
[...]
However that is NOT how you are presenting this project, it is being
presented as having the ability to install an OpenSolaris distro into a
DOS/Windows fdisk partition.
No, not the least. It is called a DOS/Windows extended partition,
because thats what it is called. It refers to
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
This project will be delivered in multiple phases. The first phase is to
introduce all OS changes necessary to support booting from and managing
extended
Pavan Chandrashekar - Sun Microsystems wrote:
[...]
However that is NOT how you are presenting this project, it is being
presented as having the ability to install an OpenSolaris distro into
a DOS/Windows fdisk partition.
No, not the least. It is called a DOS/Windows extended partition,
Darren J Moffat wrote:
It is as much windows/dos specific as much as a primary fdisk
partition is.
I disagree, if that were actually true there would be only two types of
partition primary and extended that isn't the case there are many
many tags for partitions. Linux would not have
Darren J Moffat wrote:
Pavan Chandrashekar - Sun Microsystems wrote:
[...]
However that is NOT how you are presenting this project, it is being
presented as having the ability to install an OpenSolaris distro into
a DOS/Windows fdisk partition.
No, not the least. It is called a
I'm not against this proposal at all and I thought I said that several
times all ready.
Before I just said +1 I wanted to understand more about the
architectural direction the project was proposing because it wasn't
clear to me.
The reason I raised the issue of SPARC is exactly because of
Darren J Moffat wrote:
I'm not against this proposal at all and I thought I said that several
times all ready.
Before I just said +1 I wanted to understand more about the
architectural direction the project was proposing because it wasn't
clear to me.
My isp's pop3 server currently delays
Martin Bochnig wrote:
Darren J Moffat wrote:
I'm not against this proposal at all and I thought I said that several
times all ready.
Before I just said +1 I wanted to understand more about the
architectural direction the project was proposing because it wasn't
clear to me.
My isp's pop3
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
This project will be delivered in multiple phases. The first phase is to
introduce all OS changes necessary to support
Frank Hofmann wrote:
...
What Pavan's project does is to allow putting the Solaris VTOC
elsewhere (not into a place accessible via a device node on
Solaris/x86) and add detection code into the disk target driver to
locate the VTOC elsewhere.
I.e. you'll be able to have sX device nodes
Frank Hofmann wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Martin Bochnig wrote:
Why would someone be against that so called user friendliness?
Being against this proposal means actively harming Solaris' prevalence.
If the result is user-friendly I'm all for it.
I'm just not sure it will be.
The
Frank Hofmann wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007, Dave Miner wrote:
Pavan T C wrote:
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition. This project will be
delivered in multiple phases. The first phase is to introduce all OS
changes
I agree that the support for extended partitions in the utilities is
critical. I am wondering how you propose to do the install support in
OpenSolaris when the install consolidation is currently not open. And,
the installation team is working on a new installer, Caiman, which would
likely be
Pavan Chandrashekar - Sun Microsystems wrote:
[...]
Creating device nodes is not too much of a hassle with our project.
The only issue is that there is a devnames project that seems to cover
this issue, and we dont know about the time of its delivery. The issue
is,
How do we name the new
Hi,
The aim of the project is to enable the installation and booting
of OpenSolaris from an extended partition.
This project will be delivered in multiple phases. The first phase is to
introduce all OS changes necessary to support booting from and managing
extended partitions on OpenSolaris.
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