[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris Device

2006-06-01 Thread Yonghong Lucy Lai
> I agree that some consolidation and reorganization is > required for the /dev tree. However, I do believe > it's important to maintain compatibility. There is no doubt about the need to support the existing device naming system. If there are changes, they are going to be incremental. >Many >

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris Device

2006-06-01 Thread UNIX admin
> Well, it's not "slightly more than a song"; there's > the balance sheet > to consider and that isn't looking rosy. (You'll > have to buy all shares > *and* pay off all debts) Correct. But surely some of the technologies in IRIX could be bought or at least licensed from the cash-strapped and s

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris Device Naming" (a.k.a Devn

2006-05-31 Thread Yonghong Lucy Lai
> Hi, > > You might want to take a look at JET, which resolves > these kinds of issues. > > http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/jet/ Thanks for the info. lucy > > -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*Octa > ve J. Orgeron > Solaris Systems Engineer > http://www.opensolaris.org/

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Yonghong Lucy Lai
> > To a new Solaris user that comes from other OS, > (s)he > > may > > find it bothersome not to find the device after a > > normal system > > reboot has performed. Then they will ask, "what is > > the problem > > with Solaris?" > > Are you telling us that you're trying to actually > dumb Solari

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Edward Pilatowicz
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 12:49:26PM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > > To a new Solaris user that comes from other OS, (s)he > > may > > find it bothersome not to find the device after a > > normal system > > reboot has performed. Then they will ask, "what is > > the problem > > with Solaris?" > > Are you

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread UNIX admin
> To a new Solaris user that comes from other OS, (s)he > may > find it bothersome not to find the device after a > normal system > reboot has performed. Then they will ask, "what is > the problem > with Solaris?" Are you telling us that you're trying to actually dumb Solaris down for some Joe U

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Stephen Potter
James Carlson wrote: The problem with that idea is that forcing reconfiguration every time kills the boot-time metric, which is an important part of computing overall availability of the system. Such a project would fail on boot-time regression. It would require a very quick way to discover n

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread James Carlson
Stephen Potter writes: > > To a new Solaris user that comes from other OS, (s)he may > > find it bothersome not to find the device after a normal system > > reboot has performed. Then they will ask, "what is the problem > > with Solaris?" > > I agree, if there is a way for the guru to turn off au

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-28 Thread Stephen Potter
> To a new Solaris user that comes from other OS, (s)he may > find it bothersome not to find the device after a normal system > reboot has performed. Then they will ask, "what is the problem > with Solaris?" I agree, if there is a way for the guru to turn off auto-reconfig when they want. This

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris Device

2006-05-27 Thread Yonghong Lucy Lai
> > I didn't notice anyone saying that /dev/dsk/root > couldn't exist, it > just has to exist with the current solution. Forgot to mention, Devname is adding flexibilities in managing the logical device name, i.e. /dev names, while keeping current devfsadm/link generator device naming mechanism

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Project Proposal - "Simplified Solaris

2006-05-27 Thread Yonghong Lucy Lai
> > > > A scenario for this problem is: In a shared SAN > environment, > > the same tape device needs to be named the same on > all the hosts > > so that the backup software can be configured > consistently > > across the enterprise. > > > > Current /dev/rmt name scheme can assign different >