Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-27 Thread Casper . Dik
I think this problem is more easily addressed for first time uses by making sure the default shell environment has command line editing; AFAIK, they all allow both ^H and ^? to delete the character to the left of the cursor. Indeed, `tcsh` will handle both. However, this annoyance can rear

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-26 Thread a b
As others have said, xmodmap or similar may be your friends. I have handled this *annoyance* for years with stty erase ^H or stty erase ^V^H interactively. Trust me, having grown up on DEC and Wyse terminals, I know how to set the [BACKSPACE] to do [DEL].

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-26 Thread Casper . Dik
As others have said, xmodmap or similar may be your friends. I have handled this *annoyance* for years with stty erase ^H or stty erase ^V^H interactively. I think this problem is more easily addressed for first time uses by making sure the default shell environment has command line

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-26 Thread a b
I think this problem is more easily addressed for first time uses by making sure the default shell environment has command line editing; AFAIK, they all allow both ^H and ^? to delete the character to the left of the cursor. Indeed, `tcsh` will handle both. However, this annoyance can rear

RE: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread a b
Why? Delete is the proper key to use for doing a step back; this ain't PC land where they confused DEL (destructive) and Backspace (non destructive) with Backspace (delete left) and DEL (delete under). I *never* want to delete what is to the right of the cursor. As someone who grew up on a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. I support Sun Microsystems and Sun engineers 99% of the time, but this is 1% where even I have to write: Looks like you did not understand the problem. DEL

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hi Dirk and Joerg, [...] The best Solution I am currently aware is to use rxvt which locally maps the BACKSPACE key event to a DEL key event. stty or xmodmap? /usr/X11/lib/X11/xkb ? best, martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Dirk Wetter
Hey Jörg, On 25.05.2007 13:40, Joerg Schilling wrote: a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. I support Sun Microsystems and Sun engineers 99% of the time, but this is 1% where even I have to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Hugh McIntyre
a b wrote: Why? Delete is the proper key to use for doing a step back; this ain't PC land where they confused DEL (destructive) and Backspace (non destructive) with Backspace (delete left) and DEL (delete under). I *never* want to delete what is to the right of the cursor. As someone who

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dirk Wetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DEL is the correct way to go. The problem is that the PC keyboards are not ergonomic and have the BACKSPACE key where DEL belongs. If you reassign BNACKSPACE to deelete characters, then many things will not longer work correctly. The best

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-25 Thread John Plocher
If Sun continues with the [DEL] key being used to backspace-delete stuff, that's just being unreasonable. +1 15 to 20 years ago, we were our customers, and it was easy to map their needs onto our own personal preferences - after all, we were selling to enginerds just like ourselves. Those

[osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-24 Thread UNIX admin
Any other ideas? I'm open to everything! I love the Java interface, but can't use it without a backspace key. Change the following in /kernel/drv/options.conf: ttymodes=2502:1805:bd:8a3b:3:1c:7f:15:4:0:0:0:11:13:1a:19:12:f:17:16; See the :7f:? Change it to 8 (the ASCII code for

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: RE: backspace key not working on Java environment

2007-05-24 Thread Casper . Dik
Any other ideas? I'm open to everything! I love the Java interface, but can't use it without a backspace key. Change the following in /kernel/drv/options.conf: ttymodes=2502:1805:bd:8a3b:3:1c:7f:15:4:0:0:0:11:13:1a:19:12:f:17:16; See the :7f:? Options.conf is not used as much as some