Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Alan Hargreaves
Haim Zilberbord wrote: one more thing SXCR is free i don't want become beta-tester for nevada express. Ummm then the reason for wanting to play with open solaris is what? Nevada is simply Sun's distro of Open Solaris. i don't feel safe when i can't build any tool form source I

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Haim Zilberbord
Sun linker and this way create a 100% correct set of makefiles that also include auto-dependencies against libraries that have been linked to a program. It means that opensolaris can be built only with this make ? Is there any source code for Sun make ? Any specs that can help add required

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Casper . Dik
If sun dmake(1) is provided only with sun studio, then whole build process depends on Sun's wish to distribute Studio tools. THey're excellent tools and they are free. And no, OpenSolaris does not depend on Sun's make; the makefiles are just a side-show to the actual product and they can

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Haim Zilberbord
If people want to have a knife fight in front of thousands of people on list, I'm going to pull up a chair and watch the show. you want to say that i am flamer ? i am not interested in flame. i'm just asking concrete questions that definitely have answer, and it takes lots of messages before i

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread James Carlson
Haim Zilberbord writes: If people want to have a knife fight in front of thousands of people on list, I'm going to pull up a chair and watch the show. you want to say that i am flamer ? i am not interested in flame. It really does look like flame-bait to many of us. Questions about

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread James Carlson
Haim Zilberbord writes: By integrating a new feature like this, we'd be forcing everyone working on Open Solaris to test under Linux. it is why i don't even think about integration of this modifications to ON all i want, is to invastigate passibility, and if it possibe - do it once. It

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Haim Zilberbord
building the barest minimum of OpenSolaris... totally agree This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Haim Zilberbord
You want to participate in the OpenSolaris initiative, and yet, you do not want your work to benefit Sun (who is supporting this project with ... i want contribute to ON consolidation, other consolidations is not interesting to me. contributing to opensolaris (as i understand) != using SX. if

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Haim Zilberbord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Solaris is POSIX compliant. Linux is not. If you question is: 'what tools are not strictly POSIX compliant?' I would rethink that question - POSIX is a minimal specification and does not provide for every possible extension a covered API or utility

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Haim Zilberbord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sun linker and this way create a 100% correct set of makefiles that also include auto-dependencies against libraries that have been linked to a program. It means that opensolaris can be built only with this make ? Unless you like to totally rewrite ~

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-11 Thread Haim Zilberbord
i want build distribution from scratch without any Corporate Solaris еncumbrance. i know that it will break compatibility, but it is good thing for people with debian background (yes , i know about nexenta) i think “Damn Small Opensolaris” with working X.org ,packaging system like prgsrc or

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-11 Thread Haim Zilberbord
one more thing SXCR is free i don't want become beta-tester for nevada express. i don't feel safe when i can't build any tool form source questions : why there is such thing like “minimum ON build version” ? GNU make has lots of extensions... can i download and build required extensions

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: cross compiling and building with open tools only

2006-11-11 Thread Steven Stallion
Haim, If you are seeking help on building ON in a Linux sandbox, I can think of a number of ways you could have approached this without putting the backs up of virtually every user on this mailing list. Solaris is not and never will be Linux. This is not to say Linux is inferior - just that