Re: [osol-discuss] We aren't an Open Community, because we don't control our Trademark and Website. (And it's not Sun's fault).

2008-02-14 Thread Joerg Schilling
Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Complaining about it, no matter how many emails we post on list, won't change things. If we want to change things, it will take hard work. Stop complaining, and do something about it. Get organized. Lead or join a project to develop a new trademark

Re: [osol-discuss] We aren't an Open Community, because we don't control our Trademark and Website. (And it's not Sun's fault).

2008-02-14 Thread Shawn Walker
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5) We are independent. Decisions within the project are made independently from those concerning Sun's business. Sun's management controls the business aspects of the Solaris product, but will not exert undue influence

Re: [osol-discuss] We aren't an Open Community, because we don't control our Trademark and Website. (And it's not Sun's fault).

2008-02-14 Thread Ken Gunderson
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:31:16 PST Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we want to expend resources on being control freaks, or would we rather apply them to * bugfixes * drivers * expanded interoperability * features * ... ? IMO, most of the control issues will reach

[osol-discuss] We aren't an Open Community, because we don't control our Trademark and Website. (And it's not Sun's fault).

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Gupta
It pains me that Sun is doing so many great moves in open source, and there are so many great people at Sun that get it, yet Sun decided to force it's wishes on a captive community. I hope those of you that are working at Sun that are trying to change things, don't get discouraged. Based on Sun's

Re: [osol-discuss] We aren't an Open Community, because we don't control our Trademark and Website. (And it's not Sun's fault).

2008-02-13 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 13, 2008 10:35 PM, Brian Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on Sun's recent decisions, it has become clear to me that Sun has exercised their right to break the illusion that OpenSolaris is a community run project. (It is rather, a community influenced project). I'm sure Sun's

Re: [osol-discuss] We aren't an Open Community, because we don't control our Trademark and Website. (And it's not Sun's fault).

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Gupta
Before you jump so hastily to criticize, please read the OpenSolaris.org Statement of principles: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/ Our principles: - 1) The project will evolve in full view of the world. By opening our code, processes, documentation, and historical