Scaling of group messages is simple however.
With one server per group you get a long way.
Lets say, 2000 connections per server on average.
Usually about 1/10th of the users is online, so
you can keep adding groups to a server until
the total number of group members is around 20,000.
Then you
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Lance Corrimal
lance.corri...@eregion.de wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 14. April 2010 20:49:59 schrieb Joe Linden:
**we've had a lot of internal debate around cost/benefit of OS **... and
we're fully committed to redoubling our commitment to make this a
successful
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 04:09:19PM +0200, Lance Corrimal wrote:
- 48 hours after the server code is out in the open, the 25 groups limit has
been lifted, AND the whole IM/group chat subsystem has been migrated to XMPP
(including voice via XMPP); another day and there's the possibility to
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:11:22 +0200
Carlo Wood ca...@alinoe.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:28:00AM -0400, Robert Martin wrote:
LL is only liable for Linden Core Code*
a TPV is only liable for code changed from LLC**
a user is liable for actions on the grid (and whatever changes done
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a program that says things could still be protected under free speech,
and could be considered art, and manufacturing pistols isn't illegal,
even if some people kill people with them, but of course, if you build a
pistol, and then use it to kill
deal with the law enforcement people
Chuckle @ wording ;)
--GC
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I thought it would make more sense (I still have hope) to say this now,
and not wait till 30 April.
Also I have decided that Linden Lab does not deserve the 40 hours
per week that I spend volunteering on the snowglobe sources.
Lately I have done less because my motivation was gone due to
the
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some TPVs might be released under licenses that do assign
responsibilities, legal liabilities etc to developers and/or
distributers, the TPVP shouldn't attempt to override any license applied
to any TPV
On 15/4/2010 09:13, Aleric Inglewood wrote:
I
Am Mittwoch, 14. April 2010 20:49:59 schrieb Joe Linden:
**we've had a lot of internal debate around cost/benefit of OS **... and
we're fully committed to redoubling our commitment to make this a
successful program*.
then... how about... opensourcing the SERVER (like someone pretty high up
A quick note on that - this is not the whole meeting, some of the
start was missing
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:08 AM, VR Hacks vrha...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael wrote in part:
Is a transcript of this posted anywhere for those of us who could not
attend?
I see someone has already posted a link
It's possible to willingly agree to liability and wave whatever protections
you wish that are normally under the GPL, which seems to be what the TPV
asks you to do. The issue most people seem to have is that it's not explicit
in this regard and it also doesn't make it clear that it is a contract
The problem with that is a contract requires assent on both sides
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Discrete Dreamscape
discrete.dreamsc...@gmail.com wrote:
It's possible to willingly agree to liability and wave whatever protections
you wish that are normally under the GPL, which seems to be
Many coders would likely accept liability when being paid well, or possibly
at all. But in the case of open source code created as a hobby, the GPL idea
of no warranty has so far been successful in the community because code can
be inspected by its users, and because the users can verify, alter,
I feel your frustration, however, this is the *opensource-dev* mailing list
*not* the *snowglobe-dev* mailing list. Both SnowGlobe and TPV's are open
source viewers based on Linden Lab's mainline viewer the only difference is
Snowglobe is distributed by LL. Discussion on policies that effect open
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 07:52:02AM -0500, Jonathan Irvin wrote:
To Whom It May Concern:
I'm requesting Linden Lab's response to this inquiry due to the recent
influx of new topic related...or should I say unrelated to the development
of the SnowGlobe viewer. Lately, when I open my email, I
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Ron Festa overdr...@dceo.rutgers.edu wrote:
I feel your frustration, however, this is the opensource-dev mailing list
not the snowglobe-dev mailing list. Both SnowGlobe and TPV's are open source
viewers based on Linden Lab's mainline viewer the only difference
It's already reached a point where LL has told us, to our faces, that
they are not going to change the policy, meaning our opinion doesn't
mean diddly to them. There's no use continuing to discussion, just as
there's no use continuing TPV development.
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 07:52 -0500, Jonathan
Rob,
I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
-- Joe
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson nexisentertainm...@gmail.comwrote:
It's already reached a point where LL has told us, to our faces, that
they are not going to change the policy, meaning our opinion doesn't
mean diddly
Yes, I begin sleep at 6:00AM and frequently sleep until 2:30PM.
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 09:27 -0700, Joe Linden wrote:
Rob,
I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
-- Joe
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson
nexisentertainm...@gmail.com wrote:
It's already reached
Joe, is there a transcript/voice recording of the meeting available?
On Apr 14, 2010 12:27 PM, Joe Linden j...@lindenlab.com wrote:
Rob,
I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
-- Joe
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson nexisentertainm...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's already...
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 16:27 +, Joe Linden wrote:
Rob,
I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
-- Joe
Is a transcript of this posted anywhere for those of us who could not
attend?
Thanks!
Mike
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Joe,
have a beer ;)
or would you rather have a gallon of WD40? ;)
Am Mittwoch 14 April 2010 schrieb Joe Linden:
Rob,
I take it you weren't at the meeting yesterday?
-- Joe
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Nelson
nexisentertainm...@gmail.comwrote:
It's already reached a
I decided to read the transcript and it did not address any of my
concerns.
[12:21][Voice Transcript] Joe Linden: we've ha a lot of internal debate
around cost/benefit of OS
^ That was all I needed to hear. Debate's effectively over.
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 09:27 -0700, Joe Linden wrote:
Rob,
And yet, it does restrict GPL distribution rights. We've been over this
already. And I'd like to see where the FSF OKed it, the only thing I
can turn up on Google is Richard Stallman not being too happy about it.
I already changed the viewer I used to be working on to Luna, but both
the GPL
Michael wrote in part:
Is a transcript of this posted anywhere for those of us who could not
attend?
I see someone has already posted a link to the full chat text transcript on
the wiki.
Gareth Nelson was kind enough to provide the voice recording of the meeting,
which can be found here:
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