Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-07 Thread Ron Croonenberg
in no time. caching would only work with little bits of data. On 12/03/2015 10:32 PM, Michael Wojcik wrote: From: openssl-users [mailto:openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Jakob Bohm Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 21:11 To: openssl-users@openssl.org Subject: Re: [openssl-users]

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-07 Thread Michael Wojcik
> From: openssl-users [mailto:openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org] On Behalf > Of Ron Croonenberg > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 14:24 > To: openssl-users@openssl.org > Subject: Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers. > > if the proxy is another host, I'

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-07 Thread Ron Croonenberg
That is something we have been considering, but someone is going to bring up the fact that passwords would be in the clear. It would be an option to have some sort of encrypted authentication 'thing' over HTTP No it is strictly for having users, on front ends authenticate so they will only hav

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-07 Thread Ron Croonenberg
t: Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers. The network is isolated from the outside worl, BUT we still need authentication because different users are using it. So what I preferably want is sort of a set up where, authentication is done the "standard way" and after that jus

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-07 Thread Ron Croonenberg
-boun...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Ron Croonenberg Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 18:35 To: openssl-users@openssl.org Subject: Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers. The network is isolated from the outside worl, BUT we still need authentication because different users are

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Michael Wojcik
> From: openssl-users [mailto:openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org] On Behalf > Of Jakob Bohm > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 21:11 > To: openssl-users@openssl.org > Subject: Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers. > > On 04/12/2015 03:03, Michael Wojcik wrot

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Jakob Bohm
Since the network is (as I understand it) physically secure against wiretapping, how about using plain http with http auth? Or are you trying to protect against TCP connection hijacks by other computers/processes on the "secure" network? On 04/12/2015 00:35, Ron Croonenberg wrote: The network i

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Jakob Bohm
On 04/12/2015 03:03, Michael Wojcik wrote: From: openssl-users [mailto:openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Ron Croonenberg Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 18:35 To: openssl-users@openssl.org Subject: Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers. The network is isolated

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Michael Wojcik
> From: openssl-users [mailto:openssl-users-boun...@openssl.org] On Behalf > Of Ron Croonenberg > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 18:35 > To: openssl-users@openssl.org > Subject: Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers. > > The network is isolated from the ou

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Ron Croonenberg
1: correct: you could still evesdrop on the connection, BUT we know who is on there since we authenticated. (It is a storage system, not on a public network and has an internal network for communicating between the node (approx 30PB and 50 servers) We know exactly who are on there and 'thin

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Ron Croonenberg
The network is isolated from the outside worl, BUT we still need authentication because different users are using it. So what I preferably want is sort of a set up where, authentication is done the "standard way" and after that just use the https connection without the overhead of actually

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Jacob Champion
On 12/03/2015 01:50 PM, Richard Moore wrote: ​If network is fully isolated you could use plain text. Using 'https' and null encryption is basically just pretending to do security. I've never done any work with the eNULL ciphers, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't they still preven

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Richard Moore
On 2 December 2015 at 17:53, Ron Croonenberg wrote: > So the idea is to use an object store on an isolated network and push and > get objects out of it using https. > > ​If network is fully isolated you could use plain text. Using 'https' and null encryption is basically just pretending to do sec

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Wall, Stephen
> What about openssl? (little confused here).. I would expect openssl > being the one that needs to be rebuild, not apache. As Viktor previously stated, openssl has the NULL ciphers built in by default. Your reply to Rich seemed to confirm that your version of openssl does include them:

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Ron Croonenberg
What about openssl? (little confused here).. I would expect openssl being the one that needs to be rebuild, not apache. On 12/03/2015 11:15 AM, Wall, Stephen wrote: So in general, I would have to build apache before I could use null ciphers? That is correct. -spw

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Wall, Stephen
> So in general, I would have to build apache before I could use null > ciphers? That is correct. -spw ___ openssl-users mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-users

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-03 Thread Ron Croonenberg
So in general, I would have to build apache before I could use null ciphers? On 12/02/2015 11:06 AM, Wall, Stephen wrote: Encryption in https/apache is handled by mod_ssl. does that means, since there are NULL ciphers I can just use them in apache/mod_ssl by just changing a setting like: SSL

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-02 Thread Wall, Stephen
> Encryption in https/apache is handled by mod_ssl. does that means, > since there are NULL ciphers I can just use them in apache/mod_ssl by > just changing a setting like: > > SSLCipherSuite eNULL > > in httpd.conf? No. mod_ssl modifiers the ciphers you specify by appending ':!aNULL:!eNULL:!

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-02 Thread Ron Croonenberg
thanks! that seemed to work, So the idea is to use an object store on an isolated network and push and get objects out of it using https. Encryption in https/apache is handled by mod_ssl. does that means, since there are NULL ciphers I can just use them in apache/mod_ssl by just changing

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-02 Thread Salz, Rich
> but if I do a: openssl ciphers -v "ALL:eNULL" | grep eNULL Look for NULL, not eNULL. Or "Enc=None" ___ openssl-users mailing list To unsubscribe: https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-users

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-02 Thread Ron Croonenberg
ok, thanks, but if I do a: openssl ciphers -v "ALL:eNULL" | grep eNULL I don't see anything. How do I configure openssl so it will always be able to use the eNULL 'encryption' ? Ron On 12/01/2015 06:46 PM, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:34:09PM -0700, Ron Croonenberg wro

Re: [openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-01 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 03:34:09PM -0700, Ron Croonenberg wrote: > I want to build/compile openssl including the 'eNULL' cipher. I know it's > not in ALL or default, because of "security risks". No need to recompile. > How do I include it and built it (downloaded a version from the github) The

[openssl-users] explicitly including other ciphers.

2015-12-01 Thread Ron Croonenberg
Hello, I want to build/compile openssl including the 'eNULL' cipher. I know it's not in ALL or default, because of "security risks". How do I include it and built it (downloaded a version from the github) thanks, Ron ___ openssl-users mailing list