RE: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-14 Thread Michael Wojcik
From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto:owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Spadim Sent: Sunday, 13 April, 2014 13:53 The problem isn't new features the problem is how to write tests that should find security problems and tests to find bugs A false dichotomy, as

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-14 Thread Roberto Spadim
2014-04-14 10:02 GMT-03:00 Michael Wojcik michael.woj...@microfocus.com: From: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org [mailto: owner-openssl-us...@openssl.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Spadim Sent: Sunday, 13 April, 2014 13:53 The problem isn't new features the problem is how to write tests that

Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, I wasn't really sure where to ask this, but I think this list is appropriate. While having read so much about heartbleed, one question stays unanswered for me all the time: What's the use of this heartbeat extension? I mean not the theoretical use (I can imagine that) but the use in

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Graham Leggett
On 13 Apr 2014, at 12:25 PM, Hanno Böck ha...@hboeck.de wrote: I wasn't really sure where to ask this, but I think this list is appropriate. While having read so much about heartbleed, one question stays unanswered for me all the time: What's the use of this heartbeat extension? I mean not

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Hanno Böck
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 13:12:41 +0200 Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote: On 13 Apr 2014, at 12:25 PM, Hanno Böck ha...@hboeck.de wrote: Is there any software out there that doees anything with heatbeat? And more specifically: If there is, is it using TCP or UDP? The RFC answers this:

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Hanno Böck ha...@hboeck.de wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 13:12:41 +0200 Graham Leggett minf...@sharp.fm wrote: On 13 Apr 2014, at 12:25 PM, Hanno Böck ha...@hboeck.de wrote: Is there any software out there that doees anything with heatbeat? And more

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Ströder
Graham Leggett wrote: On 13 Apr 2014, at 12:25 PM, Hanno Böck ha...@hboeck.de wrote: I wasn't really sure where to ask this, but I think this list is appropriate. While having read so much about heartbleed, one question stays unanswered for me all the time: What's the use of this

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Graham Leggett
On 13 Apr 2014, at 2:04 PM, Michael Ströder mich...@stroeder.com wrote: No, it does *not* answer the question. The question was: Who is currently using it? Just to clarify any possible confusion, whether or not a piece of software actively uses the heartbeat makes no difference to the bug,

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Michael Ströder
Graham Leggett wrote: On 13 Apr 2014, at 2:04 PM, Michael Ströder mich...@stroeder.com wrote: No, it does *not* answer the question. The question was: Who is currently using it? Just to clarify any possible confusion, whether or not a piece of software actively uses the heartbeat makes no

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Just to clarify any possible confusion, whether or not a piece of software actively uses the heartbeat makes no difference to the bug, you are still vulnerable simply by virtue of the feature being there. Make sure that if you are using an effected version of openssl, you patch openssl. I

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Steve Marquess
On 04/13/2014 10:54 AM, Michael Ströder wrote: ... A clarifying note especially to OpenSSL developers: Many thanks for your work and I feel your pain these days. But maybe it's the right time to think about putting two feet on the brake pedal against the feature bloat. I heartily agree.

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread ag@gmail
That is the state of software industry today, so no surprises there. Organizations who spend time and effort on fixing code (generic usage) are far and few in between (close to being non-existent). -Amarendra -- sent via 100% recycled electrons from my mobile command center. On Apr 13, 2014,

Re: Who uses heartbeat?

2014-04-13 Thread Roberto Spadim
The problem isn't new features the problem is how to write tests that should find security problems and tests to find bugs Em domingo, 13 de abril de 2014, ag@gmail amarendra.godb...@gmail.com escreveu: That is the state of software industry today, so no surprises there. Organizations who