Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 07/12/16 14:29 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Dolph Mathews wrote: [...] I think it honestly reflects our current breakdown of contributors & collaboration. The artificial scarcity model only helps a vocal minority with cross-project focus, and just results in odd meeting times for the majority

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2016-12-02 11:35:05 +0100: > So I'm now wondering how much that artificial scarcity policy is hurting > us more than it helps us. I'm still convinced it's very valuable to have > a number of "meetings rooms" that you can lurk in and be available for > ping

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-12 Thread John Villalovos
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:45 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > There was a thread in the past discussing renaming -alt to -2 but it > concluded that it was not worth the hassle (losing the 489 people > hanging there). > I was thinking maybe #openstack-meeting-alt could be dedicated in the future to "A

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-12 Thread Thierry Carrez
John Villalovos wrote: > So how about: > - we enable an #openstack-meeting-5 to instantly relieve scheduling > pressure > > > Any reason it isn't #openstack-meeting-2 ? > > The -2 channel is owned by openstackinfra. Currently we have: #openstack-meeting #openstack-meeting-alt #op

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-09 Thread John Villalovos
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > So how about: > - we enable an #openstack-meeting-5 to instantly relieve scheduling > pressure > Any reason it isn't #openstack-meeting-2 ? The -2 channel is owned by openstackinfra.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-09 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean McGinnis wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 02:29:03PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> >> So how about: >> - we enable an #openstack-meeting-5 to instantly relieve scheduling pressure >> - we allow teams to hold meetings in their project channel if they want >> to (and show them all on the meeti

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-07 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-12-07 12:14:06 -0600 (-0600), Ian Cordasco wrote: [...] > So I'm all for non-official projects using their own channels for > meetings. My only wish (as someone working on a non-official > project) would be that we could use meeting bot the same way we > would in a meeting channel. It's th

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-07 Thread Ian Cordasco
  -Original Message- From: Thierry Carrez Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: December 7, 2016 at 07:30:40 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ? > Dolph Mathews wr

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-07 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 02:29:03PM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > So how about: > - we enable an #openstack-meeting-5 to instantly relieve scheduling pressure > - we allow teams to hold meetings in their project channel if they want > to (and show them all on the meeting agenda through the irc-m

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-07 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dolph Mathews wrote: > [...] > I think it honestly reflects our current breakdown of contributors & > collaboration. The artificial scarcity model only helps a vocal minority > with cross-project focus, and just results in odd meeting times for the > majority of projects that don't hold primetime m

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-05 Thread Dariusz Śmigiel
2016-12-05 12:51 GMT-06:00 Paul Belanger : > On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:47:15AM +0100, Luigi Toscano wrote: >> On Friday, 2 December 2016 14:42:31 CET Matt Riedemann wrote: >> > But like we recently talked about the stable team meetings, we don't >> > really need to be in a separate -alt room for t

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-05 Thread Paul Belanger
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:47:15AM +0100, Luigi Toscano wrote: > On Friday, 2 December 2016 14:42:31 CET Matt Riedemann wrote: > > But like we recently talked about the stable team meetings, we don't > > really need to be in a separate -alt room for those when we have the > > channel and anyone tha

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-05 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:49 PM Tony Breeds wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 11:35:05AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > There has been a bit of tension lately around creating IRC meetings. > > I've been busy[1] cleaning up unused slots and defragmenting biweekly > > ones to o

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-05 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-12-05 08:43:38 +0100 (+0100), Andreas Jaeger wrote: [...] > Accessbot is just permissions - this is not relevant. [...] To clarify, our accessbot never joins any channels at all. It only connects to the server and interacts with ChanServ to configure permissions for the channels listed. Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-05 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Friday, 2 December 2016 14:42:31 CET Matt Riedemann wrote: > But like we recently talked about the stable team meetings, we don't > really need to be in a separate -alt room for those when we have the > channel and anyone that cares about stable enough to be in the meeting > is already in that c

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 2016-12-05 05:18, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 10:07:21PM -0500, Shamail wrote: > >> Do we know how many of the project level rooms currently have bots? I know I >> ran into an issue that one of the bots was at its maximum (128 rooms) and, >> therefore, I concerned about the in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-04 Thread Shamail
> On Dec 4, 2016, at 11:18 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 10:07:21PM -0500, Shamail wrote: >> >> Do we know how many of the project level rooms currently have bots? I know I >> ran into an issue that one of the bots was at its maximum (128 rooms) and, >> therefore, I conc

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-04 Thread Tony Breeds
On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 10:07:21PM -0500, Shamail wrote: > Do we know how many of the project level rooms currently have bots? I know I > ran into an issue that one of the bots was at its maximum (128 rooms) and, > therefore, I concerned about the infrastructure necessary to support too many > ne

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-04 Thread Shamail
> On Dec 4, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Tony Breeds wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 11:35:05AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> There has been a bit of tension lately around creating IRC meetings. >> I've been busy[1] cleaning up unused slots and defragmenting biweekly >> ones to o

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-04 Thread Tony Breeds
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 11:35:05AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > There has been a bit of tension lately around creating IRC meetings. > I've been busy[1] cleaning up unused slots and defragmenting biweekly > ones to open up possibilities, but truth is, even with those changes > a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-03 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
evelopment Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ? Hi everyone, There has been a bit of tension lately around creating IRC meetings. I've been busy[1] cleaning up unused slots and defragmenting biweekly ones to open up possibilities, but

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-02 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 12/2/2016 8:38 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: Thierry, when we were adding the #openstack-swg group, we had this conversation and I observed that my own preference would be for a project's meetings to be in that projects room. It makes it easier to then search for logs for something (say SWG related)

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-02 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2016-12-02 11:35:05 +0100 (+0100), Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] > So I'm now wondering how much that artificial scarcity policy is hurting > us more than it helps us. I'm still convinced it's very valuable to have > a number of "meetings rooms" that you can lurk in and be available for > pings, w

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-02 Thread Amrith Kumar
ber 2, 2016 7:52 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ? > > Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > Do we have any real data on just how many contributors really do lurk > > in the meeting rooms permanently, as o

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Do we have any real data on just how many contributors really do > lurk in the meeting rooms permanently, as opposed to merely joining > rooms at start of the meeting & leaving immediately thereafter ? There are currently 488 permanent residents on #openstack-meeting, 2

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-02 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 11:35:05AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > There has been a bit of tension lately around creating IRC meetings. > I've been busy[1] cleaning up unused slots and defragmenting biweekly > ones to open up possibilities, but truth is, even with those changes > a

[openstack-dev] [all] Creating a new IRC meeting room ?

2016-12-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, There has been a bit of tension lately around creating IRC meetings. I've been busy[1] cleaning up unused slots and defragmenting biweekly ones to open up possibilities, but truth is, even with those changes approved, there will still be a number of time slots that are full: Tuesday