Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-13 Thread Jiri Tomasek
Hi, I agree that this new updated logo is great refinement to what we currently have. Love it. Thanks Heidi On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Dan Prince wrote: > Hi Heidi, > > I like this one a good bit better. He might looks a smidge cross-eyed > to me... but I'd take this

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-13 Thread Dan Prince
Hi Heidi, I like this one a good bit better. He might looks a smidge cross-eyed to me... but I'd take this one any day over the previous version. Thanks for trying to capture the spirit of the original logos. Dan On Fri, 2017-03-10 at 08:26 -0800, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: > Hi TripleO team, 

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-13 Thread Brent Eagles
Hi all, Not that it matters one way or the other, Carlos's comment reminded me of some trivia regarding owl eye color that I had read recently: https://owlpedia.wordpress.com/2015/08/06/why-do-owls-have-different-colour-eyes/ On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:16 AM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez <

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-13 Thread Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
Hey! Yeahp I think most owls have yellow/orange eyes, this can be a good thing to try. Cheers, Carlos On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Dan Sneddon wrote: > On 03/10/2017 08:26 AM, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: > > Hi TripleO team, > > > > Here’s an update on your project

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Dan Sneddon
On 03/10/2017 08:26 AM, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: > Hi TripleO team, > > Here’s an update on your project logo. Our illustrator tried to be as > true as possible to your original, while ensuring it matched the line > weight, color palette and style of the rest. We also worked to make sure >

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Brent Eagles
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Heidi Joy Tretheway < heidi...@openstack.org> wrote: > Hi TripleO team, > > Here’s an update on your project logo. Our illustrator tried to be as true > as possible to your original, while ensuring it matched the line weight, > color palette and style of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Emilien Macchi
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Jiří Stránský wrote: > On 10.3.2017 17:26, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: >> >> Hi TripleO team, >> >> Here’s an update on your project logo. Our illustrator tried to be as true >> as >> possible to your original, while ensuring it matched the line

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Jiří Stránský
On 10.3.2017 17:26, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: Hi TripleO team, Here’s an update on your project logo. Our illustrator tried to be as true as possible to your original, while ensuring it matched the line weight, color palette and style of the rest. We also worked to make sure that three Os in

[openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Heidi Joy Tretheway
Dmitry asked: "I'm late to the party, and I don't really have any strong opinions about a TripleO logo, but why is it blue? :) I'm not sure there exist any blue owls.” Answer: There aren’t any purple porcupines or blue polar bears, either, but the Barbican and Freezer mascots are in those

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 03/10/2017 05:26 PM, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: Hi TripleO team, Here’s an update on your project logo. Our illustrator tried to be as true as possible to your original, while ensuring it matched the line weight, color palette and style of the rest. We also worked to make sure that three Os

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
Hey This version looks awesome, it really feels like what we currently have, but upgraded xD I don't see how we can keep the head feathers, so forth, +1 Thanks Heidi for your effort! Cheers, Carlos. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Jason Rist wrote: > On 03/10/2017

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Jason Rist
On 03/10/2017 09:26 AM, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: > Hi TripleO team, > > Here’s an update on your project logo. Our illustrator tried to be as true as > possible to your original, while ensuring it matched the line weight, color > palette and style of the rest. We also worked to make sure that

[openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Heidi Joy Tretheway
Hi TripleO team, Here’s an update on your project logo. Our illustrator tried to be as true as possible to your original, while ensuring it matched the line weight, color palette and style of the rest. We also worked to make sure that three Os in the logo are preserved. Thanks for your

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-03-10 Thread Emilien Macchi
elease concept for the same reasons I stated above. > Thanks, > Arkady > > -Original Message- > From: Dmitry Tantsur [mailto:dtant...@redhat.com] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 6:31 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo]

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-17 Thread Arkady.Kanevsky
Message- From: Dmitry Tantsur [mailto:dtant...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 6:31 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team? On 02/17/2017 12:01 AM, Chris Dent wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-17 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-16 18:43:29 -0800 (-0800), John Dickinson wrote: [...] > Second, the foundation messaging around the PTG emphasizes > per-project developers. From https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ > > The event is not optimized for non-contributors or people who > can’t relate to a specific project team.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-17 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 02/17/2017 12:01 AM, Chris Dent wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2017, Dan Prince wrote: And yes. We are all OpenStack developers in a sense. We want to align things in the technical arena. But I think you'll also find that most people more closely associate themselves to a team within OpenStack than

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread John Dickinson
On 16 Feb 2017, at 15:01, Chris Dent wrote: > On Thu, 16 Feb 2017, Dan Prince wrote: > >> And yes. We are all OpenStack developers in a sense. We want to align >> things in the technical arena. But I think you'll also find that most >> people more closely associate themselves to a team within

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Chris Dent
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017, Dan Prince wrote: And yes. We are all OpenStack developers in a sense. We want to align things in the technical arena. But I think you'll also find that most people more closely associate themselves to a team within OpenStack than they perhaps do with the larger project.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-16 15:20:11 -0500 (-0500), Dan Prince wrote: [...] > And there is that rub again. There is implied along with this pressure > to adopt the new logo. If you don't you'll get a blank space as a sort > of punishment for going your own way. As Monty said directly... they > want conformance

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Emilien Macchi
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Dan Prince wrote: > On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 19:54 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> On 2017-02-16 14:09:53 -0500 (-0500), Dan Prince wrote: >> [...] >> > This isn't about aligning anything. It is about artistic control. >> > The >> > foundation

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Jay Faulkner
> On Feb 16, 2017, at 12:20 PM, Dan Prince wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 19:54 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >> On 2017-02-16 14:09:53 -0500 (-0500), Dan Prince wrote: >> [...] >>> This isn't about aligning anything. It is about artistic control. >>> The >>> foundation

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Dan Prince
On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 19:54 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2017-02-16 14:09:53 -0500 (-0500), Dan Prince wrote: > [...] > > This isn't about aligning anything. It is about artistic control. > > The > > foundation wants to have icons their way playing the "community > > card" > > to make those

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-16 14:09:53 -0500 (-0500), Dan Prince wrote: [...] > This isn't about aligning anything. It is about artistic control. The > foundation wants to have icons their way playing the "community card" > to make those who had icons they like conform. It is clear you buy into > this. > > Each

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Dan Prince
On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 06:36 -0600, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 02/15/2017 07:54 PM, Dan Prince wrote: > > At the high level all of this sounds like a fine grand plan: "Help > > projects create mascots" with a common theme. On the ground level I > > can > > tell you it feels a lot more like you are

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Giulio Fidente
On 02/16/2017 07:25 PM, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote: > Amid the spirited discussion on your mascot, I wanted to clear up confusion > about our next steps and your options. > > 1. I’ve taken Carlos’s sketches to our illustration team to ask them to make > the original TripleO owl in the style of

[openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Heidi Joy Tretheway
Amid the spirited discussion on your mascot, I wanted to clear up confusion about our next steps and your options. 1. I’ve taken Carlos’s sketches to our illustration team to ask them to make the original TripleO owl in the style of the new logo family. This takes a bit of time and probably

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Dan Prince
On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 08:36 -0500, Emilien Macchi wrote: > I'll shamelessly cross-post here, I didn't know where to reply. > I agree with Monty and Flavio here. > > Heidi has been doing an excellent job in helping OpenStack community > about $topic, always in the open, which has been very

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Marios Andreou
On 14/02/17 04:38, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Team, I've got this email from Heidi. > > I see 3 options : > > 1. Keep existing logo: http://tripleo.org/_static/tripleo_owl.svg . > > 2. Re-design a new logo that "meets" OpenStack "requirements". > > 3. Pick-up the one proposed (see below). Option

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
Hi, Yeah, I tried drafting something based on our current logo and following my perception about the new foundation styles, again here are the files (WIP version, is just a PoC) https://cdn.rawgit.com/ccamacho/tripleo-graphics/5ed624b8/logos/openstack_ tripleo_logo_h.pdf

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Giulio Fidente
On 02/14/2017 03:38 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Team, I've got this email from Heidi. > > I see 3 options : > > 1. Keep existing logo: http://tripleo.org/_static/tripleo_owl.svg . > > 2. Re-design a new logo that "meets" OpenStack "requirements". > > 3. Pick-up the one proposed (see below).

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 16/02/17 08:36 -0500, Emilien Macchi wrote: I'll shamelessly cross-post here, I didn't know where to reply. I agree with Monty and Flavio here. Heidi has been doing an excellent job in helping OpenStack community about $topic, always in the open, which has been very appreciated. We, as a

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Emilien Macchi
I'll shamelessly cross-post here, I didn't know where to reply. I agree with Monty and Flavio here. Heidi has been doing an excellent job in helping OpenStack community about $topic, always in the open, which has been very appreciated. We, as a team, have agreed on re-iterating on a new proposal

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Dan Prince
On Thu, 2017-02-16 at 06:36 -0600, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 02/15/2017 07:54 PM, Dan Prince wrote: > > At the high level all of this sounds like a fine grand plan: "Help > > projects create mascots" with a common theme. On the ground level I > > can > > tell you it feels a lot more like you are

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 13/02/17 21:38 -0500, Emilien Macchi wrote: Team, I've got this email from Heidi. I see 3 options : 1. Keep existing logo: http://tripleo.org/_static/tripleo_owl.svg . 2. Re-design a new logo that "meets" OpenStack "requirements". 3. Pick-up the one proposed (see below). #3 Flavio

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 16/02/17 06:36 -0600, Monty Taylor wrote: On 02/15/2017 07:54 PM, Dan Prince wrote: At the high level all of this sounds like a fine grand plan: "Help projects create mascots" with a common theme. On the ground level I can tell you it feels a lot more like you are crushing the spirit of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-16 Thread Monty Taylor
On 02/15/2017 07:54 PM, Dan Prince wrote: > At the high level all of this sounds like a fine grand plan: "Help > projects create mascots" with a common theme. On the ground level I can > tell you it feels a lot more like you are crushing the spirit of > creativity and motivation for some of us.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Heidi Joy Tretheway
Hi Dan, I’m hoping these answers help, and I’m open to continuing the conversation if you’d like. > 6 months or so ago we were presented with a new owl from the > foundation... which had almost none of the same qualities as the > original. Many of us took a survey about that and provided

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Dan Prince
At the high level all of this sounds like a fine grand plan: "Help projects create mascots" with a common theme. On the ground level I can tell you it feels a lot more like you are crushing the spirit of creativity and motivation for some of us. What's in a mascot? I dunno. Call it a force of

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-15 16:54:17 -0500 (-0500), Dan Prince wrote: > I was off earlier this week (and unfortunately couldn't attend the > weekly meeting) but from the sound of it a very different conclusion > has been reached within the TripleO community. Apparently, this was > understood to mean that we

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Dan Prince
I was off earlier this week (and unfortunately couldn't attend the weekly meeting) but from the sound of it a very different conclusion has been reached within the TripleO community. Apparently, this was understood to mean that we *could not* keep our existing logo. And that is sad thing to do

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Heidi Joy Tretheway
Hi Dan, I’m glad you asked! The value of creating a family of logos is in communicating that OpenStack projects work together. While the some of the designs of the existing mascots were great, none of them looked like they were part of the same family, and that sent a message to the market

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-15 15:52:30 -0500 (-0500), Dan Prince wrote: > The fact that the foundation is involved in "streamlining" team logos > just kind of makes me a bit sad I guess. I mean, what value is this > really adding to the OpenStack projects? > > Devs on many projects spend their own time on

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Dan Prince
The fact that the foundation is involved in "streamlining" team logos just kind of makes me a bit sad I guess. I mean, what value is this really adding to the OpenStack projects? Devs on many projects spend their own time on creating logos... that they like. I say let them be happy and have their

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Dan Prince
On Tue, 2017-02-14 at 13:30 +0100, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez wrote: > I'll vote also for option 1 if we can keep it. > > One thing, you can see how designers have iterated over ironic's logo > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack- > dev/attachments/20170201/a016f685/attachment.png to fit

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-15 Thread Dan Prince
Option #1 keep it. Dan On Mon, 2017-02-13 at 21:38 -0500, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Team, I've got this email from Heidi. > > I see 3 options : > > 1. Keep existing logo: http://tripleo.org/_static/tripleo_owl.svg . > > 2. Re-design a new logo that "meets" OpenStack "requirements". > > 3.

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-14 Thread Heidi Joy Tretheway
Hi TripleO team, We can definitely find a middle ground here. Thanks so much for the feedback. I’ll send these examples on to the illustrators and I think we can make it work. I appreciate your willingness to compromise! > On Feb 14, 2017, at 8:57 AM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-14 Thread Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
Hello Heidi, I think most of us already agreed on the fact that our current logo was created by developers and we like it. The idea should be to iterate over our current logo to make it fit the foundation guidelines. I don't think is hard to do it, I can give you some examples (***The owl colors

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-14 Thread Emilien Macchi
Heidi, TripleO team discussed about the logo this morning during our weekly meeting. We understood that we had to change our existing logo because it doesn't meet OpenStack themes requirements, and that's fine. Though we would like you to re-iterate on a new logo that would be a variation on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-14 Thread Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
I'll vote also for option 1 if we can keep it. One thing, you can see how designers have iterated over ironic's logo http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/ attachments/20170201/a016f685/attachment.png to fit the OpenStack illustration style. Is it possible for designers to iterate

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-14 Thread Brent Eagles
Hi, FWIW, I prefer the existing logo. There are several valid practical reasons why it would be good to keep it, but I also just like it better. On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Emilien Macchi wrote: > Team, I've got this email from Heidi. > > I see 3 options : > > 1. Keep

Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-14 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Hi, Just a FYI, we have had similar discussions about the proposed logo for Ironic, there's still many unanswered questions but, if you guys are interested this is the link to the ML thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/111401.html Cheers, Lucas On Tue, Feb

[openstack-dev] [tripleo] Fwd: TripleO mascot - how can I help your team?

2017-02-13 Thread Emilien Macchi
Team, I've got this email from Heidi. I see 3 options : 1. Keep existing logo: http://tripleo.org/_static/tripleo_owl.svg . 2. Re-design a new logo that "meets" OpenStack "requirements". 3. Pick-up the one proposed (see below). Personally, I would vote for keeping our existing logo (1.)