Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

I appreciate the remarks. I think we are perhaps looking at early data and discussing two separate things: events versus trends. While I do not doubt K8S has been deployed on OpenStack, I'm looking at how folks are planning to use those two platforms. Is it possible to host one in another,

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On 19/04/17 11:17 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: Adam Lawson wrote: [...] I've been an OpenStack architect for at least 5+ years now and work with many large Fortune 100 IT shops. OpenStack in the enterprise is being used to orchestrate virtual machines. Despite the additional capabilities

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

Adam Lawson wrote: > [...] > I've been an OpenStack architect for at least 5+ years now and work with > many large Fortune 100 IT shops. OpenStack in the enterprise is being > used to orchestrate virtual machines. Despite the additional > capabilities OpenStack is trying to accommodate, that's

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On 18/04/17 10:39, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 16/04/17 09:03 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote: FWIW, I think the Lego analogy is not actually helpful for another reason: it has vastly too many ways of combining, and (hence) no sense at all of consistency / interoperability between the different things

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Excerpts from Adam Lawson's message of 2017-04-18 10:33:32 -0700: > My personal feeling: > > We need to be very very careful. While I really respect Jay Pipes and his > commentary, I fundamentally disagree with his toolbox mindset. OpenStack is > one tool in the Enterprise toolbox. It isn't a

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My personal feeling: We need to be very very careful. While I really respect Jay Pipes and his commentary, I fundamentally disagree with his toolbox mindset. OpenStack is one tool in the Enterprise toolbox. It isn't a toolbox. K8s is another tool in the toolbox since it's turning out to be much

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:45 PM Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 16/04/17 09:03 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote: > >FWIW, I think the Lego analogy is not actually helpful for another > reason: it has vastly too many ways of combining, and (hence) no sense at > all of consistency /

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On 16/04/17 09:03 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote: FWIW, I think the Lego analogy is not actually helpful for another reason: it has vastly too many ways of combining, and (hence) no sense at all of consistency / interoperability between the different things that you can construct with it. Whereas

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

> On 2017. Apr 16., at 3:03, Neil Jerram wrote: > > FWIW, I think the Lego analogy is not actually helpful for another reason: it > has vastly too many ways of combining, and (hence) no sense at all of > consistency / interoperability between the different things that you can

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FWIW, I think the Lego analogy is not actually helpful for another reason: it has vastly too many ways of combining, and (hence) no sense at all of consistency / interoperability between the different things that you can construct with it. Whereas for OpenStack I believe you are also aiming for

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: > [0] https://www.openstack.org/legal/bylaws-of-the-openstack-foundation/ > [1] > https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/principles.html#one-openstack Rats, I missed the UC charter: [2]

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:34 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Like all analogies, this one is not perfect (in particular it horribly > fails to capture the "open" nature of the stack), but I think it's still > useful to inform on what OpenStack is. On the other hand I do think

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

Ildiko Vancsa wrote: >> […] >> What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your >> proposal and your focus to help one platform vision being achieved? > > In my view it means that OpenStack contains the blocks to build > platforms that can serve as a base for different use cases and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

> +1 for us to publish sets of projects that work together for specific > scenarios. I heard this idea first from Allison Randall and it > immediately struck a chord. To be fair folks like Jay Pipes have > always said (paraphrasing) "OpenStack is a toolbox". So it's the next > step i guess.

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> […] > What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your proposal and > your focus to help one platform vision being achieved? In my view it means that OpenStack contains the blocks to build platforms that can serve as a base for different use cases and workloads. We need to keep

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On Apr 11, 2017, at 9:54 PM, joehuang wrote: > Can all these efforts lead us to one platform vision? We have to think over > the question. > > What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your proposal and > your focus to help one platform vision being

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.org/marketing/#tab=collateral > > Best Regards > Chaoyi Huang (joehuang) > > > From: John Garbutt [j...@johngarbutt.com] > Sent: 12 April 2017 18:51 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questio

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On 12/04/17 02:54 +, joehuang wrote: Hello, I heard the one platform vision in OpenStack now and then: One platform for virtual machines, containers and bare metal. I also learned that there are some groups working on making Kubernets being able to manage virtual machines. Except running

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

arbutt.com] Sent: 12 April 2017 18:51 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision On 12 April 2017 at 03:54, joehuang <joehu...@huawei.com> wrote: > What's the one platform will be i

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ent Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 10:54 PM To: openstack-dev <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision Hello, I heard the one plat

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On Wed, 12 Apr 2017, joehuang wrote: Can all these efforts lead us to one platform vision? We have to think over the question. What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your proposal and your focus to help one platform vision being achieved? These are tough questions. It's

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On 12 April 2017 at 12:04, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:51 AM, John Garbutt wrote: >> On 12 April 2017 at 03:54, joehuang wrote: >>> What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your proposal and

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:51 AM, John Garbutt wrote: > On 12 April 2017 at 03:54, joehuang wrote: >> What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your proposal and >> your focus to help one platform vision being achieved? > > The more I

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On 12 April 2017 at 03:54, joehuang wrote: > What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your proposal and > your focus to help one platform vision being achieved? The more I think about this, the less I like the phrase "one platform". I like to think of

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joehuang wrote: > [...] > What's the one platform will be in your own words? What's your proposal > and your focus to help one platform vision being achieved? OpenStack is "one platform", one open infrastructure platform. It can provide various resources (VMs, bare metal machines, container

Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 02:54:30AM +, joehuang wrote: > Hello, > > I heard the one platform vision in OpenStack now and then: One platform for > virtual machines, containers and bare metal. > > I also learned that there are some groups working on making Kubernets being > able to manage

[openstack-dev] [tc][elections]questions about one platform vision

Hello, I heard the one platform vision in OpenStack now and then: One platform for virtual machines, containers and bare metal. I also learned that there are some groups working on making Kubernets being able to manage virtual machines. Except running containers in virtual machine, there is