Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
Robert Schiele wrote: > They _do_ need refreshes because factory is constantly changing. I think we speak of two different things. You give a very complete info, sure important for some people. I speak of much simpler thing, easier to browse: is a given package on the CD? and if yesy, on wich cd

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread Robert Schiele
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:59:25PM +0200, jdd wrote: > Robert Schiele wrote: > > > If people find this information useful I could make the statistic to be > > re-exported nightly. > > there are two kind of info. > > * inst-source packages, the ones on the CD, fixed, so don't > need any refresh,

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:46:41AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > But if I understood Michael Schroeder correctly, he said that using gzip > instead of bzip would mean the software would not fit on the dvd - I > suppose he refers to the boxed version dvd. The ammount of packages must > be at the l

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 02:38:52AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Umm. Too many things in my todo list O:-) # sux - $ rpm -Uvh http://www.hyperborea.org/software/dillo/rpms/dillo-0.8.6-1.suse10.i586.rpm $ dillo $ rpm -e dillo $ exit > > Many people might get confused if they suddenly see openSUSE

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2006-05-03 at 01:59 +0200, houghi wrote: > The boxed set has a dual layer DVD. This means it already holds much more > then in the download version and I believe all of the FTP version. Please > correct me if there are packages not incl

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2006-05-03 at 02:10 +0200, houghi wrote: > > > DSL uses dillo. > > > > I haven't tried it, it is not included in 9.3. > > It is also not included in 10.0 > You could try the 10.0 URL I gave and see if that works `rpm -Uvh URL` Umm.

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:54:20AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Tuesday 2006-05-02 at 21:38 +0200, houghi wrote: > > > w3m has the nice feature that it is able to show pictures, wich is nice: > > I know, thats why I mentioned it. > > >

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:02:56PM +0200, jdd wrote: > houghi wrote: > > > It would be something between a liveCD and an installation CD. > > we already have a live installable DVD. I would like a live > and installable CD That as well. > of course, in a near future, having a browser at hand d

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:49:37AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Yes, but that is only good for downloading, not for buying. I mean, you > can download what you need or think you need. But for the bought version, > we need everything included, and the limit is one dvd, two dvds... one of > the re

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-02 at 21:38 +0200, houghi wrote: > w3m has the nice feature that it is able to show pictures, wich is nice: I know, thats why I mentioned it. > links can handle frames. Exactly, and that is needed also. > > A list of other br

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-02 at 21:41 +0200, houghi wrote: > > The harm would be for those people with bad or no internet access. > > > > Only really supperfluous packages can be dropped; otherwise, an extra > > CD/DVD should have to be available. > > R

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 09:36:47PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Tuesday 2006-05-02 at 07:21 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > > > What would be the harm in dropping a few packages from the install media > > but have them available from th

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 09:04:53PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Very. Unless you are happy with "links" or "w3m" in an xterm at most. I am > happy with that provided the web page is well designed (in this > respect, it means well designed for visually impaired people, they use > similar tool

Re: [opensuse] link opensuse<->novell

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 09:23:10PM +0200, jdd wrote: > I strongly think that paid SUSE version (so Novell's) are > complementary of open ones. > > That is they benefit one from the other. As far as I understand, that already happens. > many open SUSE Linux users will never be Novell customers, >

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-02 at 07:21 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > What would be the harm in dropping a few packages from the install media > but have them available from the ftp server? Could be a software source > pre-defined during install. I have

[opensuse] link opensuse<->novell

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
I strongly think that paid SUSE version (so Novell's) are complementary of open ones. That is they benefit one from the other. many open SUSE Linux users will never be Novell customers, but also many users need professional support (5-7 years support is quite much) opensuse will never even try to

[opensuse] dbus-1 vs dbus-1-* dependency bug

2006-05-02 Thread Richard Bos
It's hard to install dbus-1-qt while satisfying its dependencies and dependencies for other packages at the same time. It looks like, that the packages dbus-1 has not been updated in sync with the package dbus-1-mono (providing among other packages dbus-1-qt). This is the problem in short: k3b

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-02 at 19:02 +0200, jdd wrote: > of course, in a near future, having a browser at hand during > install should be nice, but very ram demanding. Very. Unless you are happy with "links" or "w3m" in an xterm at most. I am happy with

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 2 mei 2006 12:45, schreef jdd: > We see often questions about the packages included on one or > an other SUSE Linux Version. > > the smaller complete list is INDEX.gz. > > even unzipped, it's not that big, but it's long (3200 line > approx). > > Mediawiki seems to accept it. Can you test

[opensuse] Please help!. problems with ncurses in SuSE 10.0

2006-05-02 Thread Aryan Ariel Rodriguez Chalas
Nota: Se adjuntó el mensaje reenviado. __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/ --- Begin Message --- Hi everyone: I'm having problems with ncurses and the enc

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: > It would be something between a liveCD and an installation CD. we already have a live installable DVD. I would like a live and installable CD of course, in a near future, having a browser at hand during install should be nice, but very ram demanding. don't forget that if the har

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
Robert Schiele wrote: > If people find this information useful I could make the statistic to be > re-exported nightly. there are two kind of info. * inst-source packages, the ones on the CD, fixed, so don't need any refresh, it's what a planned to give. There are the packages installed on any fi

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 03:34:32PM +0200, Robert Schiele wrote: > I have now exported some statistics from an internal mirror system here > because people ask that often for packages included in SUSE releases and their > version numbers. http://pi3.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/~schiele/suseversions >

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 02:35:36PM +0200, houghi wrote: > > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:45:29PM +0200, jdd wrote: > > > We see often questions about the packages included on one or > > > an other SUSE Linux Version. > > > > > > the smaller complete li

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread Robert Schiele
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 02:35:36PM +0200, houghi wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:45:29PM +0200, jdd wrote: > > We see often questions about the packages included on one or > > an other SUSE Linux Version. > > > > the smaller complete list is INDEX.gz. > > > > Did we not already had such a th

Re: [opensuse] Packman packages for 10.1 RC2 PowerPC

2006-05-02 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Saturday 29 April 2006 16:20, houghi wrote: > Is there anybody that can explain to me in babysteps on how to do that? > I have never used gpg. > So I suppose I do the following: > `gpg --gen-key`, 5, 2048, 0, y, name and email, passphrase (Or must this > be blank?), generate the key. I then have

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Vitaly Shishakov
В сообщении от 1 мая 2006 17:55 Jerry Westrick написал(a): > Ummm, What is the best best method to upgrade from RC1 to RC3? to me personally: YaST broke at some moment, yum did not help either. so apt worked best of all, though it is not oficially supported. after i upgraded to RC3 (from Facto

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:45:29PM +0200, jdd wrote: > We see often questions about the packages included on one or > an other SUSE Linux Version. > > the smaller complete list is INDEX.gz. > Did we not already had such a thing? An online pin? The online pin is something I prefer. This is not ba

Re: [opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread Kevin Donnelly
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 11:45, jdd wrote: > Mediawiki seems to accept it. Can you test this. If there is > no problem, it's easy to makes this available for wiki users. Looks fine here n Konq. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.kyfieithu.co.uk - KDE yn Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geir

Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User Restrictions (not Child Protection).

2006-05-02 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Sunday 30 April 2006 03:05, Peter Flodin wrote: > In a Microsoft Windows domain there is something called Global Policy, > which means on a per user and per machine, I could lock down all sort > of settings. eg I could hide control panels, Internet Explorer, > ability to get to a command line, v

Re: [opensuse] AppArmor profile for postfix fix for SuSE 10.1

2006-05-02 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-05-02 15:32:11 +0400, Vitaly Shishakov wrote: > in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.postfix.local: > /var/spool/postfix/private/lmtp rw, > > in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.postfix.smtpd > /usr/share/mysql/charsets/Index.xml r, > > in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.lib.postfix.master > /us

[opensuse] AppArmor profile for postfix fix for SuSE 10.1

2006-05-02 Thread Vitaly Shishakov
Dear OpenSuSE developers, on http://en.opensuse.org/AppArmor#Contribute i found info that all app-armor related fixes should be directed here, so after fighting some time with getting postfix to work with cyrus, i found that the following changes to postfix AppArmor profiles has to be added:

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:13:16PM +0200, jdd wrote: > houghi wrote: > > > Because that basic GUI is already running, the rest afterwards in > > installation should not be in text. > > even with minimal install, given you have enough ram, this > part is already GUI (that of install) > > the only

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 12:19 +0200, Michael Schroeder wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:57:13AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > However, considering that it takes 50 minutes times 5 disks = 4 hours 10 > > minutes to recreate the 5 CDs, it is worth considering if a lower > > compression ratio, or

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: > Because that basic GUI is already running, the rest afterwards in > installation should not be in text. even with minimal install, given you have enough ram, this part is already GUI (that of install) the only remaining text part is for net install, exactly for the net config :-)

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:53:48PM +0200, jdd wrote: > most of the install (that is minimal text) can be done now > with only the first CD. This should be sufficient to go to > the first restart (the one that launches Yast again) and > then, if install source lacks, go back to the install source >

Re: [opensuse] Creating a patched OpenSuSE DVD ?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:44:06PM +0800, Low Kian Seong wrote: > Dear all, > > Just went through this wonderful guide : > http://www.users.on.net/~rgarth/weblog/fedora/patch_cd.autumn > > 2 questions : > > 1. Does novi work on SuSE ? I doubt it. You can always try and give feedback. > 2. Does

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: > At this moment you only need 3 CD's. What would be nice is an easier > 1CD/FTP installation. e.g. start the standard installation and when it > does not find the CD's, you should be able to point out an FTP (or HTTP or > whatever) installation source. > > If you have a browser run

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
> On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:19:19PM +0200, Michael Schroeder wrote: > Hey, maybe this is a good question for the community: would it be > ok for you if we drop a couple of packages for faster installation? at present time, install bother all the users trying to find a dhcp server right at the beg

[opensuse] index or not

2006-05-02 Thread jdd
We see often questions about the packages included on one or an other SUSE Linux Version. the smaller complete list is INDEX.gz. even unzipped, it's not that big, but it's long (3200 line approx). Mediawiki seems to accept it. Can you test this. If there is no problem, it's easy to makes this av

[opensuse] Creating a patched OpenSuSE DVD ?

2006-05-02 Thread Low Kian Seong
Dear all, Just went through this wonderful guide : http://www.users.on.net/~rgarth/weblog/fedora/patch_cd.autumn 2 questions : 1. Does novi work on SuSE ? 2. Does such a guide also exists for OpenSuSE ? Thanks.

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-02 at 12:19 +0200, Michael Schroeder wrote: > Yes, we thought about switching back to gzip instead of bzip2 (gzip > is much faster). This would also make the installation a bit faster. > But all the rpms are not only on the CDs, b

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:19:19PM +0200, Michael Schroeder wrote: > Hey, maybe this is a good question for the community: would it be > ok for you if we drop a couple of packages for faster installation? At this moment you only need 3 CD's. What would be nice is an easier 1CD/FTP installation. e.

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread eddieleprince
On Tuesday 02 May 2006 11:19, Michael Schroeder wrote: > On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:57:13AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > However, considering that it takes 50 minutes times 5 disks = 4 hours 10 > > minutes to recreate the 5 CDs, it is worth considering if a lower > > compression ratio, or an alto

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Michael Schroeder
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 01:57:13AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > However, considering that it takes 50 minutes times 5 disks = 4 hours 10 > minutes to recreate the 5 CDs, it is worth considering if a lower > compression ratio, or an altogether different compression method, would be > interesting

Re: [opensuse] Upgrade RC1 to RC3?

2006-05-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2006-05-01 at 20:31 -0400, Ken Schneider wrote: > I used 5 konsole windows running concurrently to create the 5 CDs and it > took me 1.5 hours to create the new iso's. This is on a Xeon 2.4Mhz HT > with 768M of ram. Try running two concurr

[opensuse] RC1 + RC1_RC3 delta iso fail

2006-05-02 Thread Hans du Plooy
Doing: applydeltaiso SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1-i386-CD1.iso SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC1_RC3-i386-CD1.delta.iso SUSE-Linux-10.1-RC3-i386-CD1.iso fails, ends like this: yast2-theme-SuSELinux.noarch (bzip): applying delta yast2-trans-ko.noarch (bzip): applying delta yast2-tv.noarch (bzip): applying delta yast2-x

Re: [opensuse] [10.1Rc2] yast2 problem

2006-05-02 Thread Jens Weisse
Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 22:22 schrieb Christian Boltz: > Hello, > > Am Freitag, 28. April 2006 09:14 schrieb Jens Weisse: > > I have a stupid problem with yast. Yesterday I tried an update from > > 10.1 rc1 to rc2. But now the most parts of yast don't work. > > > > For example: > > Command: /s

[opensuse] Summer of Code 2006 -- open for application

2006-05-02 Thread Christoph Thiel
Hi everyone, first of all many thanks to all of you who have contributed ideas and suggestions to last weeks openSUSE & Summer of Code thread. Google Summer of Code 2006 is now open for your application (provided that your are a student). The student application page can be found at http://c