Re: [opensuse] Registration in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Siegbert Baude
Michael Loeffler schrieb: > On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:28, Erhard Sanio wrote: >> Still I feel that demanding registration is a wrong way >> and should be abandoned. > I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion. > > We're talking abouth the automatic Onling Update Configuration. The

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carl Hartung
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 00:37, houghi wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:26:46AM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: > > Houghi, with all due respect this bickering is unbecoming and boring. > > Please stop. > > So now I am the bad guy? No, of course not. Don't be defensive. I'm just asking you to refrai

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:26:46AM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: > Houghi, with all due respect this bickering is unbecoming and boring. Please > stop. So now I am the bad guy? houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwiederbringliche Lebenszeit. Leben ist ab

Re: [opensuse] Registration in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 08:20:53PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote: > But maybe Novell was already planning for the future and there is a good > reason for calling this process "registration"... ;-) So how would you call the process then where a system registers data, like the data that is collected

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carl Hartung
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 00:12, houghi wrote: > I can go only by what you tell me. If you tel me you only looked at the > 9.3 and not at the 10.0 and/or 10.1 then I can only asume you did not look > there. Why would you not tell it if you looked there? Houghi, with all due respect this bickering i

Re: [opensuse] Registration in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:34:33AM +0100, PatrickM wrote: > Thomas Hertweck wrote: > > Michael Loeffler wrote: > > > >> [...] > >> > >> I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion. > >> > >> [...] > >> > > > > Thanks for that update! I would also like to provide some additional

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:21:59AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > If I see something like that, I file a bugreport. > > But I don't :-P Pity. and the smiley does not help there. > > It does not alter what you said. However what you said makes no sence. You > > could also have said that the DVD w

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:13:42AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > How interested are you all in this subject if you can't even bother to > > look it up? > > You think I didn't? I did, in fact... the admin book of 9.3 (the last one > that was printed) has what I copied above, as I said. And the re

[opensuse] Kernel bug in iSCSI ?

2006-05-16 Thread takahiro_kikumoto
Greetings, I am having the trouble with configuring of iSCSI initiator under OpenSUSE 10.1. At the connection phase of a iSCSI target using YaST, it always fails with the following messege; "Error While Connection iscsid". The dmesg output calls it a kernel bug. it is attached, with the most rele

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 18:39 +0200, houghi wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:33:32PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > By the way, at least one of the installation screens of RC1..3 included > > the SuSE logo. I will not say which, of course. :-P

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 18:35 +0200, houghi wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:47:53PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > I didn't read neither the licence of suse books. are they print free? > > > > For personal use, I'm sure they are. The 9.3 edi

Re: [opensuse] Registration in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread PatrickM
Thomas Hertweck wrote: > Michael Loeffler wrote: > >> [...] >> >> I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion. >> >> [...] >> > > Thanks for that update! I would also like to provide some additional > facts ;-) One fact is that the name "registration" has been chosen very > inj

Re: [opensuse] Registration in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Michael Loeffler wrote: > [...] > > I would like to bring in some facts into this discussion. > > [...] Thanks for that update! I would also like to provide some additional facts ;-) One fact is that the name "registration" has been chosen very injudiciously for such a process. With such a name

Re: [opensuse] makeSUSEdvd and SLED 10?

2006-05-16 Thread Rasmus Plewe
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:59:45AM -0400, David Barker wrote: > > Does anybody know if you can use makeSUSEdvd with SLED 10? The script should work on SLED10, yes. The underlying OS version is not really important. Rasmus - T

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:59:45PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > By the way, at least one of the installation screens of RC1..3 included > > the SuSE logo. I will not say which, of course. :-P > > Ejem! > > ./CD1/suse/i586/i4l-base-2006.2.28-8.i586.rpm:-rwxr-xr-x1 root > root

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:33:32PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > By the way, at least one of the installation screens of RC1..3 included > the SuSE logo. I will not say which, of course. :-P If I see something like that, I file a bugreport. > > > > 7) Because they sold more Upgrades then Full ve

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:47:53PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > I didn't read neither the licence of suse books. are they print free? > > For personal use, I'm sure they are. The 9.3 edition I have in my lap says > "this publication is the intellectual property of Novell Inc". "Its > content's

[opensuse] makeSUSEdvd and SLED 10?

2006-05-16 Thread David Barker
Does anybody know if you can use makeSUSEdvd with SLED 10? Thanks Dave

Re: [opensuse] packagemanagement in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Alexander Antoniades
On 5/16/06, Henne Vogelsang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is no upcomming tool. Linux is about choice. Preconfigured Packagemanager will "always" be YaST/libzypp. Because the "community" chose it after looking at all the available options. :p I started http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Mana

Re: [opensuse] tomcat 5.5 as rpm for suse 10.0?

2006-05-16 Thread Mathias Homann
Kenneth Schneider schrieb: >> anyone here who knows where i could find a tomcat 5.5 as a replacement rpm >> package for >> replacing the 5.0.29 tomcat that comes with suse 10.0? >> >> > tomcat5-5.0.30-27.noarch.rpm is available in the 10.1 distribution. It > may work, YMMV. i've seen that. unf

Re: [opensuse] Failure to complete boot following initial install of Suse 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Sac Geek
>>I have a system with three hard drives containing many partitions and multiple >installed OS's... including (now) SUSE 10.1, 10.0 and 9.3. Sounds almost identical to my own situation. Now that you mention it, Suse does prefer to call my primary boot drive, by another "name", i.e. hde,

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 16:33 +0200, I wrote: > > So even though you don't care about their wishes to be called SUSE, > > because that is what they are called, they should care about your wishes> > > Didn't you see the smiley? :-PPP > > > By the

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 14:49 +0200, jdd wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > > Don't forget to include a DVD and perhaps even MPlayer and libdvdcss > > > and > > > other multimedia things. > > > > > > You know that is not possible. > > with a bo

Re: [opensuse] Registration in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Loeffler
Hi all, On Saturday 13 May 2006 21:28, Erhard Sanio wrote: > Thanks for your response and all other. > > Still I feel that demanding registration is a wrong way > and should be abandoned. Politely asking for some information > is a totally different thing. I would not hesitate to tell > the projec

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 14:58 +0200, houghi wrote: > > > 1) Because SuSE does not exist anymore. It is SUSE > > > > I don't care :-P > > So even though you don't care about their wishes to be called SUSE, > because that is what they are called, t

Re: [opensuse] tomcat 5.5 as rpm for suse 10.0?

2006-05-16 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 15:34 +0200, Mathias Homann wrote: > Hi, > > > anyone here who knows where i could find a tomcat 5.5 as a replacement rpm > package for > replacing the 5.0.29 tomcat that comes with suse 10.0? > > tomcat5-5.0.30-27.noarch.rpm is available in the 10.1 distribution. It may

[opensuse] tomcat 5.5 as rpm for suse 10.0?

2006-05-16 Thread Mathias Homann
Hi, anyone here who knows where i could find a tomcat 5.5 as a replacement rpm package for replacing the 5.0.29 tomcat that comes with suse 10.0? bye, MH -- Die unaufgeforderte Zusendung einer Werbemail an Privatleute verstößt gegen §1 UWG und §823 I BGB (Beschluß des LG Berlin vom 2.

Re: [opensuse] Failure to complete boot following initial install of Suse 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Carl Hartung
On Monday 15 May 2006 15:36, Sac Geek wrote: > Scratching my head for a resolution, any pointers as to where to go to find > a resolve Hi Sac, First, this topic really belongs on suse-linux-e (SLE) as opposed to opensuse. Since I'm already responding, here's what I think is going on: I have a s

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:46:07PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 12:45 +0200, houghi wrote: > > > > Probably. Then, why not the one made by SuSE? > > > > 1) Because SuSE does not exist anymore. It is SUSE > > I don'

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread jdd
Carlos E. R. wrote: Don't forget to include a DVD and perhaps even MPlayer and libdvdcss and other multimedia things. You know that is not possible. with a book it migh be possible (sufffice to buy the rights :-) I didn't read neither the licence of suse books. are they print free? I re

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 12:45 +0200, houghi wrote: > > Probably. Then, why not the one made by SuSE? > > 1) Because SuSE does not exist anymore. It is SUSE I don't care :-P > 7) Because they sold more Upgrades then Full versions and guessed it w

Re: [opensuse] devel packages

2006-05-16 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Marcus Meissner wrote: > > As far as I know, Yes. The DVD9 has enough space fortunately. ;) > > I was told by another reader of this list that this is not correct. > > Some devel packages are also missing from the DVD9. We had that topics a couple of days ago and I actually

Re: [opensuse] devel packages

2006-05-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:26:45AM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:25:05AM +0200, Andreas Otto wrote: > > Hi Marcus, > > > > On Tuesday 16 May 2006 10:16, Marcus Meissner wrote: > > > Not enough space. > > > > > > They are on the network installation source. > > > > Wil

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:29:09PM +0200, jdd wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > > >Almost the same books you see in ...inst-source/docu/en, are translated to > >several languages. I don't know which is now the "admin" book, it might be > >the "reference_en.pdf", and it is translated to Spanish and

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread jdd
Carlos E. R. wrote: Almost the same books you see in ...inst-source/docu/en, are translated to several languages. I don't know which is now the "admin" book, it might be the "reference_en.pdf", and it is translated to Spanish and French, at least. So the translation cost has been invested alre

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:30:07PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > So the translation cost has been invested already... why not sell > the book and try make some money out of it? Because it is not worth the trouble. houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist das Kostbarste, was wir haben, denn es ist unwi

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:21:52PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 07:23 +0200, houghi wrote: > > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:38:57AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > Well... perhaps. But they could sell instead the book. Even a book with a > > > DVD, or with a magazine that

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 06:11:19AM +0200, jdd wrote: > Peter Flodin wrote: > > >SUSE Linux needs to compete with Windows which comes bundled with most > >people's machine (the cost is hidden). > > tha windows admin book is wonderfull, isn't it? Nice one. :-) houghi -- Nutze die Zeit. Sie ist d

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 07:17 +0200, houghi wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > Market share. Spread SUSE Linux, grow the community, > > > > IMO, they would get more of that with the admin book included. M

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 06:04 +0200, jdd wrote: > > IMO, they would get more of that with the admin book included. More sales > > the better. This way, they will get mostly firstimers (repeaters will > > download) - and firstimers need manuals. >

Re: [opensuse] Sources iso

2006-05-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 07:23 +0200, houghi wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:38:57AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > Well... perhaps. But they could sell instead the book. Even a book with a > > DVD, or with a magazine that includes the DVD :-p

Re: [opensuse] devel packages

2006-05-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 11:25:05AM +0200, Andreas Otto wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > On Tuesday 16 May 2006 10:16, Marcus Meissner wrote: > > Not enough space. > > > > They are on the network installation source. > > Will all devel-packages be available with the boxed version? As far as I know, Yes. T

Re: [opensuse] devel packages

2006-05-16 Thread Andreas Otto
Hi Marcus, On Tuesday 16 May 2006 10:16, Marcus Meissner wrote: > Not enough space. > > They are on the network installation source. Will all devel-packages be available with the boxed version? Cheers, Andreas -- Seit 14323985 Sekunden. Since 14323985 seconds. Graduate life: It's not just a

Re: [opensuse] devel packages

2006-05-16 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:12:33AM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: > Hi guys, > > I notice that a fair number of devel packages are not on the DVD (made > from the CDs with . Why is that? Evolution, of the top of my head, is > one. Not enough space. They are on the network installation source. C

[opensuse] devel packages

2006-05-16 Thread Hans du Plooy
Hi guys, I notice that a fair number of devel packages are not on the DVD (made from the CDs with . Why is that? Evolution, of the top of my head, is one. Thanks Hans - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additiona

Re: [opensuse] packagemanagement in 10.1

2006-05-16 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 07:05:33, Kyek, Andreas, VF-DE wrote: > I'm a bit confused about the packagemanagement in 10.1. > > AFAIK there is yast, smart and apt. smart shall be the > successor of apt, which will (AFAIK) be supported last > time with 10.1 and yum and y2pmsh and rug/zmd...

[opensuse] SuSE Slick Update problems

2006-05-16 Thread Ian House
I was wondering if someone could tell me how to configure Slick. After installing, I found, 1. No email client - when I selected Kmail from Kynaptic it downloaded and opened as I presume it was supposed to but I couldn't configure anything. I selected - Settings, Configure Kmail and it opened a