Re: [opensuse] We, the community, updated

2006-05-18 Thread scsijon
At 10:22 PM 17/05/2006, you wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:40:31PM +1000, scsijon wrote: > how-to is only a small part, what I believe is needed is a "grow" manual > that allows you to start with the basics (eg the command only "ls"), add > the meanings and results of the generally used extens

Re: [opensuse] 10.0 sound problem survived 10.1

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Hartung
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 17:18, Johannes Nohl wrote: > Who can help, what to do? I abandon a bug report because there are > dozens of similar postings. I'm asking for how to get close to the > reason... Hi Johannes, First, I've had no sound problems in 10.0 or 10.1 under either GNOME or KDE. I t

[opensuse] Re: Quake 3 Arena on Xgl

2006-05-18 Thread J Sloan
Matthias Hopf wrote: > On May 17, 06 20:49:06 -0700, J Sloan wrote: >> Excellent, duly noted! >> >> Now, I need to find a convenient way to launch a ut2004 or q3a session on an >> xorg server from within an xgl session. > > q3 at least works on top of Xgl very well, as I've shown on LinuxTag. So

Re: [opensuse] Changing installation sources: rug sync fails

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Hartung
On Thursday 18 May 2006 06:57, Andreas Otto wrote: > I still wonder why sound does not work and gnucash crashes when trying to > configure HBCI for online banking. Seems like old bugs from 10.0 do still > persist. Hi Andreas, I'm glad you are persistent! Do me a favor and create a new thread on t

Re: [opensuse] PackMan packages for SUSE Linux 10.1 are ready

2006-05-18 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Thursday 18 May 2006 16:07, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > Is this the same thing as the "Signature Check Failed" message I get > after adding the packman source? I get this even after adding the keys > for the packman site. No, that means the signed metadata does not validate against the signature

Re: [opensuse] "Urgent" windows in XGL+Compiz with KDE

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 05:27:15PM +0100, Francis Giannaros wrote: > Just wondering if this issue was ever resolved. > > In kde with compiz as wm, whenever an application has to flash in the > taskbar , i.e. a Kopete window when I have a message... once I have clicked > on it, the flash remains

[opensuse] "Urgent" windows in XGL+Compiz with KDE

2006-05-18 Thread Francis Giannaros
Just wondering if this issue was ever resolved. In kde with compiz as wm, whenever an application has to flash in the taskbar , i.e. a Kopete window when I have a message... once I have clicked on it, the flash remains there, the window is still highlighted, implying that it's urgent. It doesn

Re: [opensuse] packagemanagement in 10.1

2006-05-18 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 16 mei 2006 17:50, schreef Alexander Antoniades: > > maybe you can help and expand it with examples for apt4rpm? > > I'll see if I can help with this tonight, but I believe apt4rpm=smart as > the developer(s) of the first have moved on to the second. This is not correct. apt and smart

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 11:41 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 17:16 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > > Since I am a kernel programmer, please let me explain. The 2.6 kernel > > series has been going through a remarkably fast evolution since the > > 2.6.0 release in Decem

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 17:16 +0200, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > Kenneth Schneider wrote: > > But it won't even install because the kernel version<> module version. > > Which was the point to my previous question about why a driver cannot be > > used with a newer kernel version. The 2.6 kernel is

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 01:30:54PM -0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: > > > >Since I am a kernel programmer, please let me explain. The 2.6 kernel > >series has been going through a remarkably fast evolution since the > >2.6.0 release in December 2003. This speed was only possible because > >the interna

Re: [opensuse] FAQ for Xgl

2006-05-18 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Donnerstag, 18. Mai 2006 16:24 schrieb Matthias Hopf: > On May 17, 06 15:59:46 +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote: > > > As there were a number of issues that were asked a dozen times or so, I > > > finnally included a FAQ in the Xgl wiki. > > > > Just wanted to report, that with Nvidia Fx5200 Xgl an

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Alexey Eremenko
Since I am a kernel programmer, please let me explain. The 2.6 kernel series has been going through a remarkably fast evolution since the 2.6.0 release in December 2003. This speed was only possible because the internal kernel interfaces could be changed continuously to match newer requirements.

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Kenneth Schneider wrote: > But it won't even install because the kernel version<> module version. > Which was the point to my previous question about why a driver cannot be > used with a newer kernel version. The 2.6 kernel is still the 2.6 kernel > even if it has .3-5 or .3-55 at the end. If someo

Re: [opensuse] makeSUSEdvd 0.31 online

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 04:55:38PM +0200, houghi wrote: > If you want to give away DVDs that include CD6, it is better > to use the newer version. The message crossed this one: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2006-May/0006.html So if you need to download aben and just want CD1

[opensuse] makeSUSEdvd 0.31 online

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
I have put makeSUSEdvd 0.31 online. The main changes are that it solves the Automatic Onlin Configuration works when you add CD6, that the name is that of CD1 and not of CD6. Also a disclaimer to make it clear that it is not Novell product. The way I have ran it (among other ways) is /makeSUSEdv

Re: [opensuse] XGl + nvidia FX5200 + video

2006-05-18 Thread Bodo Bauer
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 16:32 +0200, Matthias Hopf wrote: > On May 17, 06 10:25:14 +0200, artefact wrote: > > Hi, > > I've tried Xgl + Compiz with a Nvidia FX5200 card. I'm using nvidia > > drivers version 8756. As it is said on the page > > http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Hardware_Advisory , video is slo

Re: [opensuse] FAQ for Xgl

2006-05-18 Thread Matthias Hopf
On May 17, 06 20:49:06 -0700, J Sloan wrote: > Excellent, duly noted! > > Now, I need to find a convenient way to launch a ut2004 or q3a session on an > xorg server from within an xgl session. q3 at least works on top of Xgl very well, as I've shown on LinuxTag. Matthias -- Matthias Hopf <[EMA

Re: [opensuse] XGl + nvidia FX5200 + video

2006-05-18 Thread Matthias Hopf
On May 17, 06 10:25:14 +0200, artefact wrote: > Hi, > I've tried Xgl + Compiz with a Nvidia FX5200 card. I'm using nvidia > drivers version 8756. As it is said on the page > http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Hardware_Advisory , video is slow, using any > option of any video player (mplayer, totem-gstreame

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 10:17:14AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: > But it won't even install because the kernel version<> module version. > Which was the point to my previous question about why a driver cannot be > used with a newer kernel version. The 2.6 kernel is still the 2.6 kernel > even if

Re: [opensuse] FAQ for Xgl

2006-05-18 Thread Matthias Hopf
On May 17, 06 15:59:46 +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote: > > As there were a number of issues that were asked a dozen times or so, I > > finnally included a FAQ in the Xgl wiki. > > Just wanted to report, that with Nvidia Fx5200 Xgl and Xinerama works like > charm :-) No it doesn't. Xgl has no idea

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 14:54 +0200, jdd wrote: > Marcus Meissner wrote: > > > If a kernel module is not recompiled in time for a kABI changing update, > > the previous version is tried. > > the basic problem is that when a new kernel is installed, > the old module don't works anymore (vmware, for

[opensuse] SuSE ON slashdot (Easy way to write drivers)

2006-05-18 Thread Joop Boonen
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Re: [opensuse] PackMan packages for SUSE Linux 10.1 are ready

2006-05-18 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 10:57 +0200, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote: > On Wednesday 17 May 2006 18:22, Peter Czanik wrote: > > Hello, > > For obvious reasons, I could not sign it with SUSE private keys, so the > > installer complains, but installs these packages. > > You can sign with your own private

Re: [opensuse] non-oss DVD

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:43:00PM +0200, LLLActive wrote: > Hi houghi, is the DVD's I mentioned then made with your makeSUSEdvd > script? If it is, then I already got it; made mine last week with the > script. I've installed it on a few systems already, ... works perfectly. Altough I would like t

Re: [opensuse] We, the community, updated

2006-05-18 Thread Bodo Bauer
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 19:14 +0200, jdd wrote: > Bodo Bauer wrote: > > > If anybody has this experience and wants to volunteer as comaintainer, > > please step up ... :) > > I can, if you don't ask for too much time. right now I give > my best on the french opensuse wiki, but most of the > manda

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread jdd
Marcus Meissner wrote: If a kernel module is not recompiled in time for a kABI changing update, the previous version is tried. the basic problem is that when a new kernel is installed, the old module don't works anymore (vmware, for example) If I understand well, in such a case the old modu

Re: [opensuse] non-oss DVD

2006-05-18 Thread LLLActive
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 14:24 +0200, houghi wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:17:31PM +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > > On 2006-05-18 14:15:03 +0200, houghi wrote: > > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:06:59PM +0200, Andreas Otto wrote: > > > > No, the boxed version ships with a DVD-9, thus holding more

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:39:52PM +0200, jdd wrote: > Marcus Meissner wrote: > >On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:30:27AM +0200, jdd wrote: > > > >>Marcus Meissner wrote: > >> > >> > >>>- YaST/Zmd can check those requires / provides and fetch > >>>fixed / changed kernel modules automatically when fetchin

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread jdd
Marcus Meissner wrote: On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:30:27AM +0200, jdd wrote: Marcus Meissner wrote: - YaST/Zmd can check those requires / provides and fetch fixed / changed kernel modules automatically when fetching the new kernels. yes, I understand the process. However this dont mean the

Re: [opensuse] non-oss DVD

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:17:31PM +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > On 2006-05-18 14:15:03 +0200, houghi wrote: > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:06:59PM +0200, Andreas Otto wrote: > > > No, the boxed version ships with a DVD-9, thus holding more packages than > > > fit > > > on 5 to 6 CDs. > > > >

Re: [opensuse] non-oss DVD

2006-05-18 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2006-05-18 14:15:03 +0200, houghi wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:06:59PM +0200, Andreas Otto wrote: > > No, the boxed version ships with a DVD-9, thus holding more packages than > > fit > > on 5 to 6 CDs. > > I know the differences have been posted here already. Is there a (Novell > or o

Re: [opensuse] non-oss DVD

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 02:06:59PM +0200, Andreas Otto wrote: > No, the boxed version ships with a DVD-9, thus holding more packages than fit > on 5 to 6 CDs. I know the differences have been posted here already. Is there a (Novell or openSUSE) website where we can point people? -- houghi

Re: [opensuse] non-oss DVD

2006-05-18 Thread Andreas Otto
Hi LLLActive, On Thursday 18 May 2006 14:00, LLLActive wrote: > Is it correct if I assume these iso's to be the > SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-i386-CDx.iso's (CD1-CD5) and > SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-x86_64-CDx.iso's (CD1-CD5) that includes the non-oss > SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-Addon-Biarch.iso (CD6), or are they the s

Re: [opensuse] window manager startup problem

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 06:04:19AM -0400, Paul Kaplan wrote: > I'm trying to start icewm on a second console w/ the command > startx -icewm --:1 and I'm met with the following error: Not sure if that is a difference, but I asume you want to run icewm and not -icewm I would run with `startx icewm

[opensuse] non-oss DVD

2006-05-18 Thread LLLActive
Hi all, I've found SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-DVD-i386.iso & SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso on ftp://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-dvd-iso Is it correct if I assume these iso's to be the SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-i386-CDx.iso's (CD1-CD5) and SUSE-Linux-10.1-GM-x86_64-CDx.iso's (CD1

Re: [opensuse] window manager startup problem

2006-05-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Paul Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-18-06 06:07]: > I'm trying to start icewm on a second console w/ the command > startx -icewm --:1 and I'm met with the following error: > > waiting for X server to shutdown FreeFontPath: FPE > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be

Re: [opensuse] /.gnupg after fresh installation of opensuse 10.1

2006-05-18 Thread Christian Boltz
Hallo Leute, Am Dienstag, 16. Mai 2006 00:22 schrieb Carlos E. R.: > The Monday 2006-05-15 at 18:16 +0200, Kang-Jin Lee wrote: > > after a fresh installation of opensuse 10.1 I see /.gnupg in top > > level directory. > > Me too (RC3). https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=171055 > And ano

Re: [opensuse] Changing installation sources: rug sync fails

2006-05-18 Thread Andreas Otto
Hi Carl, On Thursday 18 May 2006 11:04, Carl Hartung wrote: > rug > zen-updater > zmd Thanks for your help. Removing just the above listed packages did help. I still wonder why sound does not work and gnucash crashes when trying to configure HBCI for online banking. Seems like old bugs from 10

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Peter Flodin
On 5/18/06, houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just want to know if it is used correctly with the definition we have NOW. From what you write I can only get that it is not so, so I will change it on the wiki. Too slow, I already changed it :-) Peter 'Pflodo' Flodin

[opensuse] window manager startup problem

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Kaplan
I'm trying to start icewm on a second console w/ the command startx -icewm --:1 and I'm met with the following error: waiting for X server to shutdown FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. and then I'm returned to the prompt. If I just do

Re: [opensuse] Mounting usb zip

2006-05-18 Thread Danny Kukawka
On Thursday 18 May 2006 01:08, David Chapman wrote: > I have a problem mounting a usb zip drive on a 10.1 install > The drive shows up in Konqueror>media:/sde > But if I try to open it I get this popup message > > Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface > "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volum

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Peter Flodin wrote: > On 5/18/06, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Exactly. A driver for at least one SUSE kernel. Not a driver for Linux. > > So the scenario is this (shoot me if I am wrong): > [...] > If I go and update my kernel, YAST knows there is a dependency from >

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 04:04:36AM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote: > Well, since you've asked: "openSUSE" strikes me as a pretty decent 'brand' > name in it's own right. It's a great context-neutral 'wrapper' or 'umbrella' > for the entire realm. It certainly 'rolls off the tongue' easily and is a >

Re: [opensuse] PackMan packages for SUSE Linux 10.1 are ready

2006-05-18 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote: You can sign with your own private key and provide the public key in the repo. YaST/zypp will find the key and ask you if you want to trust it. If you say yes, the key is imported in the rpm keyring. Strange. When I sign it, I get a warning, that it's sig

Re: [opensuse] Changing installation sources: rug sync fails

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Hartung
On Thursday 18 May 2006 04:47, Carl Hartung wrote: Addendum: I forgot to mention that I was only able to accomplish this after removing the following packages and terminating the processes (if they were running): suseRegister rug zen-updater zmd libzypp-zmd-backend (I may have retained this one

Re: [opensuse] PackMan packages for SUSE Linux 10.1 are ready

2006-05-18 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 18:22, Peter Czanik wrote: > Hello, > For obvious reasons, I could not sign it with SUSE private keys, so the > installer complains, but installs these packages. You can sign with your own private key and provide the public key in the repo. YaST/zypp will find the key and

Re: [opensuse] Changing installation sources: rug sync fails

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Hartung
On Thursday 18 May 2006 04:20, Andreas Otto wrote: > Hi, > > I hope someone stumbled across this as well in 10.1 final. Hi Andreas, Yes, this has been encountered by others... including myself. The trick is to make one change, close the 'Installation Source' module (be patient... this is a slow

[opensuse] Changing installation sources: rug sync fails

2006-05-18 Thread Andreas Otto
Hi, I hope someone stumbled across this as well in 10.1 final. I have created a DVD from the 5 iso images using makeSUSEdvd. After installation I have found out that quite a few packages are missing on the CDs ;-) Having discovered this I tried to change the installation source from DVD to HT

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Carl Hartung
On Thursday 18 May 2006 03:38, houghi wrote: > I know it is a wiki, so I can easily change it. I just want to know if > others see the words openSUSE here as a group of people or as something > technical. (also each word openSUSE should link to opneSUSE.org, but that > is another issue) Hi Houghi,

Re: [opensuse] regarding the register discussion

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:34:47AM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote: > Here you can: > - throw away the update registration > - change its defaults > > to your hearts content. I saw that and indeed a nice way to get around e.g. the Licence agreement. (Naughty me) I have though about changing that agr

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:34:58PM +1000, Peter Flodin wrote: > From the FAQ: > "The technology is all open source and included in openSUSE. Novell is > providing and explaining the inner workings of this technology to the > industry and other Linux vendors. Our intention is to further the > genera

[opensuse] regarding the register discussion

2006-05-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
Hi, Regarding the Registering discussion I think we all agree that this is mostly a question of wording and I hope that we adjust the wording for 10.2 ;) But let me disgress and invite you to look at a feature on how to fix this yourself ;) On CD1 in / there is a file called control.xml. I

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:30:27AM +0200, jdd wrote: > Marcus Meissner wrote: > > >- YaST/Zmd can check those requires / provides and fetch > > fixed / changed kernel modules automatically when fetching > > the new kernels. > > yes, I understand the process. However this dont mean the > module

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread jdd
Marcus Meissner wrote: - YaST/Zmd can check those requires / provides and fetch fixed / changed kernel modules automatically when fetching the new kernels. yes, I understand the process. However this dont mean the modules exists. and the checksum may be broken for a kernel part not at a

Re: [opensuse] Registration in 10.1

2006-05-18 Thread houghi
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:52:49PM +0100, Thomas Hertweck wrote: > We can't change it (only Novell can do that) and Novell might have had a > good reason to call it registration. So be it! I agree with most of your posting, especialy the part that in the past there was some confusion that still ex

Re: [opensuse] Novell announces new Linux driver process.

2006-05-18 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 08:58:30AM +0200, jdd wrote: > Peter Flodin wrote: > > >If what they are proposing takes off, it will be really good. The end point > >if I have understood right, is going to the computer store and there are > >green lizards on the hardware boxes, saying it has a driver for

Re: [opensuse] OT: ADSL availability & penetration

2006-05-18 Thread Per Jessen
Siegbert Baude wrote: > Per Jessen schrieb: >> Only the relative numbers are really interesting. Germany probably >> has 10 times more dial-up users than Andorra, but it's irrelevant. > > As in Germany a lot of users are attached via OPAL (optical) instead > of POT (copper), they can't get DSL.