SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] There are 2 desktop on Gnome!

2006-07-20 Thread The Nice Spider
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 19:41 -0700, The Nice Spider wrote: 1. look at the task bar, after Places there is Desktop but in right-bottom corner there Desktop Icon too. I think the Desktop (with some app there, such as Control Center, yast, lock screen and logout) is usefull and make

Re: [opensuse-factory] skipping partition module

2006-07-20 Thread jdd
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: Try this argument for booting the installation: AddSwap: 0|3|/dev/hda5 if 0, never ask for swap; if the argument is a positive number n, activate the nth swap partition; if the argument is a partition name, activate this swap partition very interesting, thanks

Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in10.1 to Patterns in 10.2

2006-07-20 Thread houghi
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 06:20:38PM -0700, The Nice Spider wrote: does this the purpose of pattern? or may I misunderstanding this? who send the petrol to ubuntu (gnome), xandos (kde), fox (kde), rh desktop (gnome)? better we provide official package while still include other package as

[opensuse-factory] SPAM: SF2 not allow incoming for high ports?

2006-07-20 Thread The Nice Spider
since FW_INCOMING_HIGHPORTS_TCP is deleted, now how do i open port 5050 for YM? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: Suggestion to Bugzilla

2006-07-20 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:51:33AM -0700, The Nice Spider wrote: hi, better provide the last reply by in the bugzilla, to make me easy to know that already reply by someone especially if the status un-changed. currently i must open detail bug one by one to know if there're any reply. I

Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: Warning! SuseFirewall2 by default allow any port for INCOMING!

2006-07-20 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 23:08 -0700, The Nice Spider wrote: let's me tell you in these steps (sorry for my bad english): 1. I have 2 NIC: 1 internal and 1 external. the external is using public IP. 2. on yast, i check masquerading 3. external and internal allowed service ONLY listed: http

Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: Warning! SuseFirewall2 by default allow any port for INCOMING!

2006-07-20 Thread jdd
Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 23:08 -0700, The Nice Spider wrote: let's me tell you in these steps (sorry for my bad english): 1. I have 2 NIC: 1 internal and 1 external. the external is using public IP. 2. on yast, i check masquerading 3. external and internal allowed

Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: Warning! SuseFirewall2 by default allow any port for INCOMING!

2006-07-20 Thread houghi
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 02:13:19PM +0200, jdd wrote: If you want to control _outbound_ access look into using squid, that is what it was designed for. The firewall is designed mainly for _inbound_ access control. and here, inbound mean the inside of the server itself (hence the http for

Re: [opensuse-factory] x86_64 and ppc gone?

2006-07-20 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, Lars Rupp wrote: Am Mi 19.07.2006 23:15 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: x86_64 and ppc should be available again with the next build. Sorry for creating extra traffic, OK, reappeared. But now the repodata directory got lost... Hm. We have it here

Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: Warning! SuseFirewall2 by default allow any port for INCOMING!

2006-07-20 Thread Ludwig Nussel
houghi wrote: [...] Is it trafic generated by the server then it is outbound. If it is traffic for the server, then it is inbound. If the server IS the firewall, then a connection from WAN to LAN will be both inbound and outbound. Client asks the server access on port 80 - Inbound. Server

Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: Warning! SuseFirewall2 by default allow any port for INCOMING!

2006-07-20 Thread Ludwig Nussel
jdd wrote: [...] I already noted that the documentation of SuSEfirewall2 is extremely ambiguous on this respect. Where? Send patches to me. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Development V_/_ http://www.suse.de/

SPAM: Re: [opensuse-factory] SPAM: Warning! SuseFirewall2 by defaultallow any port for INCOMING!

2006-07-20 Thread The Nice Spider
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 23:08 -0700, The Nice Spider wrote: let's me tell you in these steps (sorry for my bad english): 1. I have 2 NIC: 1 internal and 1 external. the external is using public IP. 2. on yast, i check masquerading 3. external and internal allowed service ONLY listed: http

[opensuse-factory] SPAM: SF2: please change SF2 to sf only if possible.

2006-07-20 Thread The Nice Spider
list all services, then you will see sf2 using SuSEfirewall2 instead susefirewall2, i suggest only named as susefirewall all in LOWERCASE, like squid, named, mysql, samba. Not MySQL or SquiD. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Clayton
¿Why Ubuntu is more popular tha SUSE despite thier young life? Maybe the response of that question can help the grow and improving of our community. One HUGE factor with EVERYONE I know that uses Ubuntu or Kubuntu is... _package_management_. Ubuntu uses apt with the Synaptic front

Re: [opensuse] Problemas con Amarok

2006-07-20 Thread Raúl Moratalla
El Jueves, 20 de Julio de 2006 16:46, Abiud Rosas Herrera escribió: Que tal. Tengo la versión de Amarok que viene con SuSE 10.1 pero mi problema es que no puedo reproducir mp3, podrían ayudarme para saber que motor debo usar o algún complemento que necesite. Saludos cordiales

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Thu, 2006-07-20 at 18:09 +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote: Hi, Anders Johansson schrieb: Perhaps someone could set up a repository registration service. It shouldn't take long to hack up a quick GUI to retrieve a set of URLs together with one-liner descriptions, and let users select

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Bjørn Lie
tor, 20,.07.2006 kl. 18.07 +0200, skrev Andreas Hanke: snip Normally I would now ask you for the output of installation_sources -s and tell you which additional sources you need. But unfortunately, the installation_sources command is gone in 10.1 :( embla:/home/iznogood # rug sl # |

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Claes at work
But it should output the ENTIRE url and not just parts of it. Yes, that would be better. But you can make it do that if you add the no-abbrev flag: rug --no-abbrev sl Claes - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread jdd
Andreas Hanke wrote: What I would like is an easier way to extend the installation sources the better way would be a special file in the installation repository itself, wich, read by yast give all the needed data. with a good mozilla setup (mime type), a clic on the file and the

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 20. 2006 15:10]: Torsdag 20 juli 2006 14:13 skrev Daniel Bertolo: I second this. The strength of Ubuntu is package management. I agree, but package management covers a lot of ground - let's try to be more specific. I think it's not so much

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Thomas Hertweck schrieb: [...] And it's still often considered to be more free or more open, which I tend to find rather unfair sometimes. Is this really what the end user is worried about? No, probably not, and nobody stated that. I'm just trying to explain *why* the user's winmodem

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 20. 2006 18:07]: Normally I would now ask you for the output of installation_sources -s and tell you which additional sources you need. But unfortunately, the installation_sources command is gone in 10.1 :( We have an internal version which will be made

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Per Jessen
Thomas Hertweck wrote: Per Jessen wrote: [...] Quality and openSUSE.org are right now the two main strengths of SUSE. It is true that SUSE reputation for quality got a little dented with the hurried change of package manager in 10.1, but I suspect Novell might well have learned a lesson

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread jdd
Per Jessen wrote: But 10.1 underwent a fully public alpha and beta phase - I myself tested all the beta versions, I believe. It's a pity that 10.1 was not delayed to wait for the libzypp fix. should not have given any good; Remember that the problem come from _not_ having enough update

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Andreas Hanke wrote: [...] I'm just trying to explain *why* the user's winmodem didn't work in a default installation and *why* it will probably not work better in future default installations of (open)SUSE, and actually I doubt that other distributors can continue with proprietary kernel

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread jdd
Thomas Hertweck wrote: *without* an adequate replacement that makes the transition as smooth as possible for the end user. First getting a solution in place and *then* radars on the road are added that make speed moving more difficult, but I can't wait to take my car to have an automatic

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Per Jessen
jdd wrote: Per Jessen wrote: But 10.1 underwent a fully public alpha and beta phase - I myself tested all the beta versions, I believe. It's a pity that 10.1 was not delayed to wait for the libzypp fix. should not have given any good; Remember that the problem come from _not_ having

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 03:17:59PM -0300, Druid wrote: No, both work the same way, both systems depends on which repos do you have enabled. There is no differrence. We miss a easy way to add external repositories, repo discovery, and integration with packages in the build service.

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Hertweck
Andreas Hanke wrote: [...] I don't share this opinion. Fair enough ;-) Managers are not dumb. They know that (open)SUSE is perceived as sort of a test case for enterprise products, and they know that poor (open)SUSE releases put the reputation of enterprise products into question. I

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Hertweck
jdd wrote: radars on the road are added that make speed moving more difficult, but I can't wait to take my car to have an automatic speed adjustment on it (it will probably never have) You start to annoy me because you drag this discussion into something that was never intended. [...]

[opensuse] nvidia and ati now back

2006-07-20 Thread Marcus Meissner
Hi, Whoever wants to try, with todays kernel update using ATI and NVIDIA commercial drivers should now be possible (again). Add as ZYPP / YUM source: http://www2.ati.com/suse/ as repo for ATI drivers and Packages: x11-video-fglrx

[opensuse] compiz/xgl curve ball

2006-07-20 Thread ted leslie
I love the new 10.1, i got the highest end nvidia just for it, and compiz kicks ass. Here is my problem, I have no preference between KDE and Gnome as long as they can do the basic stuff i need, and with alot of mono stuff i do, gnome is the better choice, but i have been a kde user up until

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread BandiPat
On Thursday 20 July 2006 07:19, Per Jessen wrote: Per Jessen wrote: Personally, I don't experiment much with distros as I have a production system to look after, so I don't know anything about Ubuntu. But now I got curious and downloaded Ubuntu 6.06, burned myself a CD and began the

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, BandiPat wrote: As far as APT goes, I'm sure for those that have used it continuously on a Debian based distro, think it's the best thing since sliced bread, but I seem to remember the difficulty many had trying to use it with SuSE. The wailing that went on the

Re: [opensuse] The state of openSUSE

2006-07-20 Thread Andreas
El Jueves, 20 de Julio de 2006 14:51, Jan Engelhardt escribió: I think mostly what's a problem is finding and managing repos. It would help a lot if more of the 3rd party repos could join under the packman umbrella perhaps. Nice try, but when everyone tags me as EXPERIMENTAL because of the

Re: [opensuse] XFCE4

2006-07-20 Thread Scott Jones
On Thursday 20 July 2006 16:34, M.Blackmore wrote: I'm really not technical at all, so don't know how or if it is possible, to put in the Suse menu button onto xfce4, so one can point and click to bring up a list of programs and tools. Anyone know how/if this can be done? Not a SUSE menu,