Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-17 Thread Johannes Kastl
On 9/12/2005 5:31 AM Scott Leighton wrote: > On Sunday 11 September 2005 7:57 pm, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > > > As I said earlier, I would not object to a repository that > contained '3rd party' packages that SUSE makes no claim > of any responsibility. AFAIK That is what the suse-Mirr

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-13 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
> > BTW (just because I'm curious), will Novell sell commercial support for > > the Linux SuSE OSS distribution? > > No way. However, commercial support is available for SLES / NLD and SUSE > Linux (retail version). Then I fail to see any relevance in the "Novell has to support the distribution

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-13 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Marcus Meissner wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:49:39AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > BTW (just because I'm curious), will Novell sell commercial support for > > > the Linux SuSE OSS distrib

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-13 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:49:39AM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote: > On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > > [...] > > > BTW (just because I'm curious), will Novell sell commercial support for > > the Linux SuSE OSS distribution? > > No way. However, commercial support is availabl

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-12 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: [...] > BTW (just because I'm curious), will Novell sell commercial support for > the Linux SuSE OSS distribution? No way. However, commercial support is available for SLES / NLD and SUSE Linux (retail version). Regards Christoph -

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-12 Thread Robert Schiele
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:01:18AM -0500, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > Why not take that a bit further and make some of those packages from > 3rd party repositories official packages? And actually include them > in ISOs? I, though, don't feel this is very urgent and would be > satisfied with

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-12 Thread wcuestas-gmail
Just to clarify what SuSE users are expecting and what makes the main difference between a project for enthusiasts and by entushiasts of Free Software as Debian and a project like OpenSuSE, a project for and by people who wants to collaborate in a Novell/SuSE effort to open their technology to impr

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-12 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
> > I believe having a lot of packages (without allowing redundant > > packages) would be good, even if some of them are not as properly > > maintained as they could be. I would rather have 3 ISOs of very > > properly maintained software + 4 ISOs of averagely maintained packages > > + 4 ISOs of sp

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-11 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: ... > I believe having a lot of packages (without allowing redundant > packages) would be good, even if some of them are not as properly > maintained as they could be. I would rather have 3 ISOs of very > properly mainta

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-11 Thread Scott Leighton
On Sunday 11 September 2005 7:57 pm, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > > I fail to see how having an additional set of CDs, marked as > "additional" or "optional" would hurt you: you'd get exactly the same > CDs, with exactly the same quality, plus an additional set of > "optional" or "additional" C

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 September 2005 09:57 pm, Scott Leighton wrote: > On Sunday 11 September 2005 6:53 pm, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > > I've been reading most of the thread on package creation and trust > > and I still think we should be considering a different approach of > > allowing direct involve

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-11 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
> As far as I'm concerned, the quality of the packages is a direct > reflection on Novell/SUSE. If there are broken or low low quality > packages, it will reflect poorly on Novell/SUSE. > > Now, if you are simply talking about making a repository of packages > available (but not on the official D

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-11 Thread Scott Leighton
On Sunday 11 September 2005 6:53 pm, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > I've been reading most of the thread on package creation and trust and > I still think we should be considering a different approach of > allowing direct involvement and participation of third parties on the > construction of Ope

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-11 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
I've been reading most of the thread on package creation and trust and I still think we should be considering a different approach of allowing direct involvement and participation of third parties on the construction of OpenSUSE. I believe having a lot of packages (without allowing redundant packa

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > > > We are interested in creating a centralized repository of packaged > > > software following some guidelines/policies to integrate properly, > > > right? > > > > Yes, I guess we all agree! For now I'd just like to point out one > > thing:

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Daniel Secareanu
The SUSE Super project is a perfect example of this concept... Why isn't everybody willing to contribute to that one or create their own project? There could be a SUSE Multimedia Project, a SUSE JFS Project, a SUSE WhateverYouWant Project... it all depends on you guys... Daniel Daniel Secarean

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Daniel Secareanu
I guess people haven't yet figured it out that is the other way around from what they expect. Novell/SUSE has opened SUSE Linux for you to do whatever you want with it for yourself. This means you have access to that technology for your playground... It doesn't mean that you can move your playgr

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Robert Schiele
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 10:51:11AM -0500, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > > Yes, I guess we all agree! For now I'd just like to point out one thing: > > Please drop the idea of one centralized distribution that everyone is > > trying to get changes / packages in. I know that this sound very stra

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
> > We are interested in creating a centralized repository of packaged > > software following some guidelines/policies to integrate properly, > > right? > > Yes, I guess we all agree! For now I'd just like to point out one thing: > Please drop the idea of one centralized distribution that every

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Pascal Bleser wrote: [...] > Note that we're currently more or less waiting for the SUSE staff to > release 10.0 final to have them actively involved into that topic. Let's > just give them some time to concentrate on giving us the best SUSE Linux > that has ever been ;) P

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > I've briefly looked at it and it seems to only explain how to build the > RPM packages. What I'm looking for is a guide explaining the procedures > that I need to follow in order to get my packages (the RPMs I build > following the steps in

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: >>> Also, are there some guidelines/policies to standarize the behaviour >>> of packages in OpenSuSE? >> http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfref_library/detail.php?tab=doc&reference_id=1544&group=1367 > Thanks! I'll take a

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-09 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
Hi. > > Also, are there some guidelines/policies to standarize the behaviour > > of packages in OpenSuSE? > > http://forge.novell.com/modules/xfref_library/detail.php?tab=doc&reference_id=1544&group=1367 Thanks! I'll take a look. > > Could someone please point out where can I find a document d

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-08 Thread Paul Beltrani
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... > Subject: Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE > > I have a question that I am sure if for lack of education. > I have a "source" rpm package that I need to modify (

RE: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-08 Thread Schwartz, Matthew (GE Healthcare)
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE I have a question that I am sure if for lack of education. I have a "source" rpm package that I need to modify (i.e. change some of the "c" programs). How can I make changes to the source (I know, use the editor but kee

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-08 Thread Kirk Coombs
On Thursday 08 September 2005 10:08 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have a question that I am sure if for lack of education. > I have a "source" rpm package that I need to modify (i.e. change some of > the "c" programs). > How can I make changes to the source (I know, use the editor but keep > rea

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-08 Thread Uriel_Carrasquilla
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Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-08 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi, On Thursday, September 08, 2005 at 09:07:41, Alejandro Forero Cuervo wrote: > Could someone please point out where can I find a document describing > the steps I need to follow in order to build a package http://www.opensuse.org/SUSE_Build_Tutorial > Also, are there some guidelines/policies

Re: [opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-08 Thread Andreas Girardet
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[opensuse] Creating new packages for OpenSuSE

2005-09-08 Thread Alejandro Forero Cuervo
Hello. Could someone please point out where can I find a document describing the steps I need to follow in order to build a package and make it part of OpenSuSE? I'm interested in packaging some programs that I need which haven't been packaged as part of SuSE as far as I can tell; I would start