Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-19 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > It does not seem reasonable that I, joe user, who can read a little bit > > of C should be submitting patches. > > Wrong, that is the entire principle of Open Source. No it most certainly is not. You have a very flawed understanding of

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-19 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Which is just dumb since if you fix without sending upstream you will > have to fix again, and again, and again  The concept that not > submitting a fix saves time is crazy; Not true. Most annoying bugs generally get fixed in the next

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-18 Thread Tom Patton
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 07:14 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > And I don't understand how this became about submitting patches to the > kernel? It began as someone's diatribe against Evolution because of > what they thought they saw in their Bugzilla and my pointing out this > was bogus; E

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-18 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > A patch just out-there will be of little value. It very possibly won't > > apply to future versions or will become a bug if people do apply it. > > Bug/patch trackers and code repositories exist for very good reason. > Exactly so. > But submitting patches to your Distro of choice ought to be f

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-18 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > > How many fixed the problem and never published the fix? > > Not many I bet, at least not for significant bugs. Perhaps trivial one > > liners. > Trivial one liner can be difference between working and not working code, so > simplicity to solve problem doesn't mean that it should not be repo

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-18 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 18:54 +1000, Registration Account wrote: > Has anyone else left Evolution Not me. Thunderbird and kmail both suck at imap accounts, which are all I have - even on my local machine. kmail and Thunderbird are both very very very slow and apparently single threaded when

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-17 Thread John Andersen
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > A patch just out-there will be of little value.  It very possibly won't > apply to future versions or will become a bug if people do apply it. > Bug/patch trackers and code repositories exist for very good reason. Exactly so. But submitting p

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-17 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 02:19, John Andersen wrote: > On Monday 16 April 2007, Rajko M. wrote: > > How many fixed the problem and never published the fix? > > Not many I bet, at least not for significant bugs. Perhaps trivial one > liners. Trivial one liner can be difference between working and

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-17 Thread Russell Jones
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: How many fixed the problem and never published the fix? I suspect these imagined fixers-but-never-submitters were submitters at some point in the past who never got so much as a thanky thanky back, and decided it was not worth it. Why don't people just

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-17 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> >> How many fixed the problem and never published the fix? > > I suspect these imagined fixers-but-never-submitters were submitters > > at some point in the past who never got so much as a thanky thanky back, > > and > > decided it was not worth it. > Why don't people just put a patch on a webs

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-17 Thread Russell Jones
John Andersen wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007, Rajko M. wrote: How many fixed the problem and never published the fix? I suspect these imagined fixers-but-never-submitters were submitters at some point in the past who never got so much as a thanky thanky back, and decided it was not wo

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-17 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 16 April 2007, Rajko M. wrote: > How many fixed the problem and never published the fix? Not many I bet, at least not for significant bugs. Perhaps trivial one liners. > They use free OS, but don't give back anything, keeping their knowledge for > another opportunity to cash on it.

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-16 Thread Rajko M.
On Monday 16 April 2007 06:34, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > The number of people who file bugs and then vanish or just don't > > > respond to further inquiries is pretty significant. I've even seen > > > people submit *patches* along with reports, but never surface either > > > in bugzilla or

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-16 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > The number of people who file bugs and then vanish or just don't > > respond to further inquiries is pretty significant. I've even seen > > people submit *patches* along with reports, but never surface either in > > bugzilla or mail lists again. Both weird and frustrating. > Actually, that l

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-15 Thread David Brodbeck
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > The number of people who file bugs and then vanish or just don't > respond to further inquiries is pretty significant. I've even seen > people submit *patches* along with reports, but never surface either in > bugzilla or mail lists again. Both weird and frustrating.

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-15 Thread G.T.Smith
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >>> Perhaps as in my case other gave up using Evolution. >>> Has anyone else left Evolution >>> >> Nope, still using it and been using it for many years >> > > Same, been using Evolution forever; it is fast, stable, usable, and feature > complete. >

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> Then suse.de released its RC with a alpha test3 blocker still unresolved I never run alpha, betas, or RCs. > Of everyone who replied they were happy to keep evolution could you > please tell me if you are operating in a commercial work place? Yes. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Clark P. Case
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 09:29 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote: > Clark P. Case wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 23:22 -0600, Tom Patton wrote: > > > >> Just did my weekly update...Evolution patch to restore the password > >> database works fine! I'm surprised I haven't seen any chatter about it > >> on th

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > 4. A sound confidence in that there are so many Evolution bugs that have > > been outstanding for a very long time 12 months + > The picture can be wrong if you look only in a number of bugs. Agree, 115%. Looking at the bugzilla of a project to ascertain something meaningful about it is almos

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Registration Account
Sorry guys, quote from Suse.DE after asking QA Mgt to advise if Evolution bugs had correct disposal as I had entered a few bugs and after 2 months no reply (Paraphrase) "Sorry I don't get down here to much with bugs that are not critical or above" I was basically told Evolution bugs don't get mu

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Tom Patton
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 08:14 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 14 April 2007 03:54, Registration Account wrote: > > BTW, I'm not using Evolution, but 2 other posts in this thread that say they > are satisfied with, made me wonder how can happen that Evolution has many > open bugs, but still w

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread rudolf
. . > Well there is one "feature" that was removed. I used to be able to right > click in the message and select "reply to list" but someone removed it. > True, but you can use l as an alternative Rudolf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 14 April 2007 03:54, Registration Account wrote: > 4. A sound confidence in that there are so many Evolution bugs that have > been outstanding for a very long time 12 months + The picture can be wrong if you look only in a number of bugs. When you look in bug reports, there is a lot

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 08:33 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > Perhaps as in my case other gave up using Evolution. > > > Has anyone else left Evolution > > Nope, still using it and been using it for many years > > Same, been using Evolution forever; it is fast, stable, usable, and f

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
> > Perhaps as in my case other gave up using Evolution. > > Has anyone else left Evolution > Nope, still using it and been using it for many years Same, been using Evolution forever; it is fast, stable, usable, and feature complete. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For ad

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread rudolf
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 18:54 +1000, Registration Account wrote: > Perhaps as in my case other gave up using Evolution. > . . . > Has anyone else left Evolution > Nope, still using it and been using it for many years Rudolf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional com

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Registration Account
Perhaps as in my case other gave up using Evolution. For me I had a decision which Email Reader the company (small) was going to use. I had to base the decision on the following. 1. Reliability 2. Usability 3. Continual Development and support. 4. A sound confidence in that there are so many Evolu

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread G.T.Smith
Clark P. Case wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 23:22 -0600, Tom Patton wrote: > >> Just did my weekly update...Evolution patch to restore the password >> database works fine! I'm surprised I haven't seen any chatter about it >> on the list...perhaps I missed it. >> >> Thanks, again! >> >> Tom i

Re: [opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-14 Thread Clark P. Case
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 23:22 -0600, Tom Patton wrote: > Just did my weekly update...Evolution patch to restore the password > database works fine! I'm surprised I haven't seen any chatter about it > on the list...perhaps I missed it. > > Thanks, again! > > Tom in NM > > Ditto!! Now if we can

[opensuse] THANKS! Evolution pword patch!

2007-04-13 Thread Tom Patton
Just did my weekly update...Evolution patch to restore the password database works fine! I'm surprised I haven't seen any chatter about it on the list...perhaps I missed it. Thanks, again! Tom in NM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT