[opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-27 Thread Jim Cunning
On Sunday 23 December 2007 17:40:58 Aaron Kulkis wrote: [msg snipped] I'm curious why there's almost a four-day delay between the writing of the response and its receipt by the first MTA. Are you not connected 24/7, or do you only periodically send queued messages? From the messages headers: <

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-27 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Jim Cunning wrote: On Sunday 23 December 2007 17:40:58 Aaron Kulkis wrote: [msg snipped] I'm curious why there's almost a four-day delay between the writing of the response and its receipt by the first MTA. Are you not connected 24/7, or do you only periodically send queued messages? From

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 18:46 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: ... hotpop.com has been flaky lately. sometimes it's taking 2-3 days to get messages off of my machine to smtp.hotpop.com. :-/ Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it, other

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread James Knott
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > > hotpop.com has been flaky lately. > > sometimes it's taking 2-3 days to get messages off of > my machine to smtp.hotpop.com. :-/ > > Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it, > other than switch to a pay service for POP access -- > which I will probably do within

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis
James Knott wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: hotpop.com has been flaky lately. sometimes it's taking 2-3 days to get messages off of my machine to smtp.hotpop.com. :-/ Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it, other than switch to a pay service for POP access -- which I will probably do wi

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-12-27 at 18:46 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: ... hotpop.com has been flaky lately. sometimes it's taking 2-3 days to get messages off of my machine to smtp.hotpop.com. :-/ Unfortunately, there's not much I ca

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread James Knott
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > James Knott wrote: >> Aaron Kulkis wrote: >>> >>> hotpop.com has been flaky lately. >>> >>> sometimes it's taking 2-3 days to get messages off of >>> my machine to smtp.hotpop.com. :-/ >>> >>> Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about it, >>> other than switch to a pay se

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-28-07 09:33]: > I hate web-mailwaiting...waiting...waiting for > a stupid web-page to be built, transmitted and rendered > just to read a text message is too annoying. cool your knickers and get more informat

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-28 at 09:21 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: You could use a gmail account. I hate web-mailwaiting...waiting...waiting for a stupid web-page to be built, transmitted and rendered just to read a text message is too annoying. W

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-28 at 10:10 -0500, James Knott wrote: I wasn't referring to your messages. It can happen to anyone. For example, yesterday I noticed replies on another mail list, but the original that those messages replied to, didn't appear

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 28 December 2007 05:47, James Knott wrote: > ... > > What I find curious is when replyies to a post appear before the post > does. I've seen some that were hours or even days later than the > messages that replied to them. That's happened on this list and > others. Keep in mind that SM

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Jerry Houston
James Knott wrote: > I wasn't referring to your messages. It can happen to anyone. For > example, yesterday I noticed replies on another mail list, but the > original that those messages replied to, didn't appear until hours later. > It depends on a lot of factors: the routing involved, whose

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread James Knott
Jerry Houston wrote: > James Knott wrote: > >> I wasn't referring to your messages. It can happen to anyone. For >> example, yesterday I noticed replies on another mail list, but the >> original that those messages replied to, didn't appear until hours later. >> >> > > It depends on a lo

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread David
I hate web-mailwaiting...waiting...waiting for a stupid web-page to be built, transmitted and rendered just to read a text message is too annoying. I have a yahoo account as "backup" Pop details for Yahoo.com: http://help.yahoo.com/help/ca/mail/pop/pop-03.html Just remember to log in onc

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-28-07 14:30]: > >I hate web-mailwaiting...waiting...waiting for > >a stupid web-page to be built, transmitted and rendered > >just to read a text message is too annoying. > > > >I have a yahoo account as "backup" >

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Patrick Shanahan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-28-07 09:33]: I hate web-mailwaiting...waiting...waiting for a stupid web-page to be built, transmitted and rendered just to read a text message is too annoying. cool your knickers

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread James Knott
Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Patrick Shanahan wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> * Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-28-07 09:33]: >>> I hate web-mailwaiting...waiting...waiting for >>> a stupid web-page to be built, transmitted and rendered >>> just to read a text mes

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-28-07 15:22]: > Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > >cool your knickers and get more information before condemning. GMail > >provides web, pop and imap and smtp services. > > Really. > > When did they add that? pop

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 28 December 2007 11:03, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > ... > > > > cool your knickers and get more information before condemning. > > GMail provides web, pop and imap and smtp services. > > Really? Really. > When did they add that? 1982? RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Jerry Houston wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: I have a yahoo account as "backup" -- if I REALLY need to send something out, IMMEDIATELY, and hotpop's smtp is being flaky...then I use that. But a list like this isn't worth the trouble of interacting with it on yahoo or gmail or any other webmail serv

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-28 at 09:21 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: You could use a gmail account. I hate web-mailwaiting...waiting...waiting for a stupid web-page to be built, transmitted and rendered just to read a text message

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-28-07 15:33]: > On Friday 28 December 2007 11:03, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > > When did they add that? > > 1982? *Almost* Orwellian, -2 :^) - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG #

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread James Knott
Randall R Schulz wrote: > On Friday 28 December 2007 11:03, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > >> ... >> >>> cool your knickers and get more information before condemning. >>> GMail provides web, pop and imap and smtp services. >>> >> Really? >> > > Really. > > > >> When did they add tha

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-12-28 at 14:04 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: Who said anything about webmail? It has pop, smtp, and recently I heard also imap. And free as in beer. Where have you been you don't know this? :-p Last time I checked, it was still

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 28 December 2007 11:03, Aaron Kulkis wrote: ... cool your knickers and get more information before condemning. GMail provides web, pop and imap and smtp services. Really? Really. When did they add that? 1982? I know Google's a pretty advanced company,

Re: [opensuse] Why the SMTP delay? (was Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts )

2007-12-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 28 December 2007 12:49, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Randall R Schulz wrote: > > On Friday 28 December 2007 11:03, Aaron Kulkis wrote: > >> ... > >> > >>> cool your knickers and get more information before condemning. > >>> GMail provides web, pop and imap and smtp services. > > > >> When did th