Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-17 Thread scsijon
At 09:56 PM 17/02/2006, you wrote: scsijon wrote: At 10:52 PM 15/02/2006, you wrote: configuring the pcmcia, but not completely so I can't read the cd and need to copy the cd content to the hard drive. Jean-Daniel, have you tried to contact the driver's creator via Freshmeat no. it was

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-17 Thread jdd
scsijon wrote: you saw my note in another message on pcmcia ramcards i take it yes. but the problem is not making this particular pc to work, but making the larger possible numberr of pc work, so it's desirable to know what the ram limit is. when installed, the system works. install should not

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-17 Thread Joseph M. Gaffney
On Friday 17 February 2006 05:56, jdd wrote: snip no. it was not the main concern - coted only to give the hole thing. In fact an other pcmcia cd works, so the problem is probably a hardware problem and I wont bother the driver programmer for an obsolete hardware. *cough* *cough* Atleast you

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-17 Thread jdd
Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: Atleast you finally decided to check the hardware :) I always did and never complained about this one. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-16 Thread jdd
Carlos E. R. wrote: I installed a SuSE 6.x on a 386SX, 5Mb ram - just to prove myself it is possible. The installer would certainly not run, I know, I tried the same :-) but I simply took the HD to another computer, and installed it there. it's a good solution, if applicable. here I have

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-16 Thread jdd
Carlos E. R. wrote: He is thinking of image meaning photos or graphics. A language translation missunderstanding. yes and no :-). yes in the first place, I don't see a kernel as an image (for me if not a picture an image is a disk), but then no, because it's possible to have a much smaller

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-16 Thread jdd
I've got a little better now. found the alt F9 console in linuxrc to test memory I did the following, monitoring the process from aF9 and aF2 unplug all what was not strictly necessary (cd, net, even mouse and floppy-all but the AC plug :-) lauch install. directly from the copied cd (no need

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-16 Thread jdd
well. it was pretty tricky but I manage to get a functional 10.0 on my tiny box :-) even Windowmaker runs well I have still to understand why the pcmcia cdrom don't works from install, this would be much more handy, but secondary. I will also try SUPER. However it seems that there is no more

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-16 Thread Joseph M. Gaffney
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 19:12, Pascal Bleser wrote: Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:18, jdd wrote: Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: You can't have a single distro that does everything why not :-). Because it isn't practical. Look at Debian... its stable,

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-16 Thread scsijon
At 01:17 AM 16/02/2006, you wrote: cut +1 YaST rules but YaST is *Big_n_Fat* ;-) It makes the whole thing, each release, *far* too hangry with new hardware power to my point of view too! all my updates are done in a window set as init3 (text mode), not that fat and a lot less

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-16 Thread scsijon
At 10:52 PM 15/02/2006, you wrote: Pascal Bleser wrote: 10.0 is significantly faster but crashes in the same area, cut this install tools is configuring the pcmcia, but not completely so I can't read the cd and need to copy the cd

[opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
I have a problem with the two openSUSE distributions (10.0 and 10.1). For more than ten years, now, I push Linux to users with little money, to be used on not so old computers, still perfectly working. It seems not to work anymore with SUSE Linux. My actual test PC is an Acer travelmate sub

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Pascal Bleser
jdd wrote: I have a problem with the two openSUSE distributions (10.0 and 10.1). For more than ten years, now, I push Linux to users with little money, to be used on not so old computers, still perfectly working. It seems not to work anymore with SUSE Linux. My actual test PC is an Acer

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
Pascal Bleser wrote: 10.0 is significantly faster but crashes in the same area, all this making install impossible (of course Ncurse version, not graphical ones). Sounds like a bug report. Any further information ? Are you able to partition it manually ? (fdisk + mkreiserfs) in fact the

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
jdd schrieb: http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/sysreqs.html Main memory: At least 256 MB; 512 MB recommended and most low end computers have only 128 notice that I don't really need 10.0, I could really well live with 9.1 if the security upadtes where here. after all the

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: What about switching to SLES 9? It is very similar to SUSE Linux 9.1 and has a much longer support period. I speak of cheap solutions. I don't know if such clients could afford a paid solution. However I don't know what is the price. and the specification is the

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, jdd wrote: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: What about switching to SLES 9? It is very similar to SUSE Linux 9.1 and has a much longer support period. I speak of cheap solutions. I don't know if such clients could afford a paid solution. However I don't know what is

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg
Hi, On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, jdd wrote: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: What about switching to SLES 9? It is very similar to SUSE Linux 9.1 and has a much longer support period. I speak of cheap solutions. I don't know if such clients could

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread eescar
jdd a �crit : Jean-Daniel could you *please* avoid such stupid and polemic statements. Thank you Pascal for the answer to my previous question! I'll use *this* to accentuate! Of course no one wants to push all these people out of SUSE world, such statements are - excuse me - just plain dumb.

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote: You can do ALT-CTRL-F2 and activate your swap partition. curious thing. a swap partition is already active as I mentioned (250Mo). 10.1 install asked (proposed partition sheme) to have a second one. I did it, mkswap, swap on.. and this broke yast (stalled, need to

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
i'm back. I don't want to flame anything/anybody, so please keep trying to be constructive. exposure of motivations: The hardware situation: may be I'm wrong, but It xeems to me that we are in a period where hardware changes are slowing (I speak of central units/motherboard). I don't really

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
guesses about problems and solutions. Users asks for more and more friendly installations. now used kernels are so hudge they need more than 3 floppies to boot. 10.1 root image is 70Mo. this is certainly needed for many users. SUSE must be granted to have a yast version with ncurse UI and

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread houghi
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 06:49:15PM +0100, jdd wrote: * can we run a completely unattended install? no yast at all? In fact, could this be a solution: I know there is an option do do so or nearly, for mass installs. Factories do a sort of dd of the whole HD. They plug in the HD and with the

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: You can't have a single distro that does everything why not :-). of course if it would need a complete rewrite, it would not be possible. however I feel like there is little to do. After all the SUSE 9.1 runs on the test machine, what have 10.0 to don't? there are

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: By having an uncompressed rootimage directly on CD, you might save quite a bit of memory during installation. A first rough estimate would be 60 MB less which could be quite noticeable on older hardware. I could be wrong on this. However, this makes it

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Joseph M. Gaffney
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:18, jdd wrote: Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: You can't have a single distro that does everything why not :-). Because it isn't practical. Look at Debian... its stable, works on a variety of platforms and development is racing along at the speed of a turtle with

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 13:34 -0500, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:18, jdd wrote: Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: You can't have a single distro that does everything why not :-). Because it isn't practical. Look at Debian... its stable, works on a variety of

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Joseph M. Gaffney
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:39, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 13:34 -0500, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:18, jdd wrote: Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: You can't have a single distro that does everything why not :-). Because it isn't

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread jdd
Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:18, jdd wrote: Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: You can't have a single distro that does everything why not :-). Because it isn't practical. Look at Debian... its stable, works on a variety of platforms and development is racing along

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Pascal Bleser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: On Wednesday 15 February 2006 13:18, jdd wrote: Joseph M. Gaffney wrote: You can't have a single distro that does everything why not :-). Because it isn't practical. Look at Debian... its stable, works on a variety of

Re: [opensuse] harware compatibility

2006-02-15 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2006-02-15 at 18:49 +0100, jdd wrote: ... once installed, the console / yast version runs quite well on a mush less demanding system than the one advertised on the box. (-we should have an idea of the true limits to advertise them