Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-22 Thread Rajko M
jdd wrote: Rajko M wrote: Not enough people are active, and it will not be better after 10.1 is out. Then it comes 10.2, ... , 10.X . not completely right. any new version add to interest Interest yes, but all active people are busy, permanently. So we are on our own to solve how to

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-22 Thread jdd
Rajko M wrote: Majority asking for forum... don't start the thread again. I don't like forum. I'm on the french Alionet forum because I want to make opensuse known, but I think the discussion ended in favor of forum and I accept that. but this was not done. I remember having waited 6 month the

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-22 Thread Alexey Eremenko
So we need to identify * things to make the people come at least once * small jobs, the easier the better that anybody can do. right now I can see some of these jobs: * bug hunting. bugzilla is a little intimidating. the main problem is that it's entirely in english. should it be

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-22 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Sat, 22 Apr 2006, Christian Boltz wrote: Am Freitag, 21. April 2006 14:19 schrieb houghi: To realy know if more people are helping out, it would be nice to see some pre- and post-openSUSE bugzilla numbers. Quoting AJ's mail in opensuse-announce (schedule update) from thursday:

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread jdd
Rajko M wrote: Not enough people are active, and it will not be better after 10.1 is out. Then it comes 10.2, ... , 10.X . not completely right. any new version add to interest So we are on our own to solve how to attract more people to contribute, how to advertise existence of openSUSE,

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread jdd
Peter Flodin wrote: On 4/20/06, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I already drop some words about it, but it's probably worth making from time to time I found the active community very short in number. We should try to find ways to attract users and make some of them becomming more

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread jdd
Alexey Eremenko wrote: One of the things needed to attract the community is to make SUSE community wikis better - perhaps we need to add the ability to go *level up* improve browsing through wiki. Current openSUSE Wiki navigation is bad which makes it hard to find docs written by

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread houghi
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:13:53PM +0200, jdd wrote: And we try to attract Windows users, so we need doc to explain how to make things. I am not trying to attract Windows Users. I am not in competition with Windows, nor am I interested in what the largest distribution is. This des not mean we

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread houghi
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 10:25:22PM -0500, Rajko M wrote: Rebuild is not the topic, because we actually don't have much. The word is build. Not enough people are active, and it will not be better after 10.1 is out. Then it comes 10.2, ... , 10.X . So we are on our own to solve how to

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread houghi
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:41:50PM +0200, jdd wrote: Alexey Eremenko wrote: One of the things needed to attract the community is to make SUSE community wikis better - perhaps we need to add the ability to go *level up* improve browsing through wiki. Current openSUSE Wiki navigation is

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread jdd
houghi wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:13:53PM +0200, jdd wrote: And we try to attract Windows users, so we need doc to explain how to make things. I am not trying to attract Windows Users. I am not in competition with Windows, nor am I interested in what the largest distribution is.

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread houghi
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 04:25:06PM +0200, jdd wrote: People already using Linux don't need really more help than what we already give (fine tuning they distro) Yes they do. They most likely have not ever used YaST. I have seen people who used Mandriva for a longer time ask how to install

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello, Am Freitag, 21. April 2006 14:19 schrieb houghi: To realy know if more people are helping out, it would be nice to see some pre- and post-openSUSE bugzilla numbers. Quoting AJ's mail in opensuse-announce (schedule update) from thursday: Thank you all for your support for SUSE

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread houghi
On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 01:52:35AM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote: Quoting AJ's mail in opensuse-announce (schedule update) from thursday: Thank you all for your support for SUSE Linux 10.1, with this version we received for the first time more feedback from the community than

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread Rajko M
jdd wrote: Peter Flodin wrote: On 4/20/06, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I already drop some words about it, but it's probably worth making from time to time I found the active community very short in number. We should try to find ways to attract users and make some of them becomming

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-21 Thread houghi
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:10:06PM -0500, Rajko M wrote: The joke about forum is that we have 8 newsgroups with opensuse.org in the name, but not many present here are present there to help out with the problems. openSUSE mailinglist itself should be about the openSUSE community. Technical

[opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-20 Thread jdd
I think I already drop some words about it, but it's probably worth making from time to time I found the active community very short in number. We should try to find ways to attract users and make some of them becomming more involved. may be working on the community task page jdd --

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-20 Thread Rajko M
jdd wrote: I think I already drop some words about it, but it's probably worth making from time to time I found the active community very short in number. We should try to find ways to attract users and make some of them becomming more involved. may be working on the community task page jdd

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-20 Thread Peter Flodin
On 4/20/06, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I already drop some words about it, but it's probably worth making from time to time I found the active community very short in number. We should try to find ways to attract users and make some of them becomming more involved. How about a

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-20 Thread houghi
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 07:00:15PM -0500, Rajko M wrote: So, community will grow if content would be more user friendly, but not in twisted way that mean most clueless user friendly. SUSE users are folk that is trying to escape this kind of friendliness. And hee we are again inderectly

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-20 Thread houghi
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:52:20AM +1000, Peter Flodin wrote: On 4/20/06, jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I already drop some words about it, but it's probably worth making from time to time I found the active community very short in number. We should try to find ways to attract

Re: [opensuse] making the community grow

2006-04-20 Thread Rajko M
houghi wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 07:00:15PM -0500, Rajko M wrote: So, community will grow if content would be more user friendly, but not in twisted way that mean most clueless user friendly. SUSE users are folk that is trying to escape this kind of friendliness. And hee we are again