Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-09 Thread Russell Jones
Couple of quick thoughts: 1. make sure your power cable is not coiled. 2. use Gnoppix/Knoppix or similar as a test distribution so you don't need to install anything. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-09 Thread Clayton
I have superkaramba installed and already use some plugins (the almost omnipresent LiquidWeather and some others). None of the plugins for monitoring will display the info I need (CPU temp, HDD rpm's, etc) even after executing sensors-detect as root and getting some "Succeed!" messages for some se

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-09 Thread Martin Mielke
ssages for some sensors... Any ideas on this? Thanks, Martin - Original Message From: Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: opensuse Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 2:27:16 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often > is there any way to check the temperature and

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread ka1ifq
On Monday 08 January 2007 08:17, Martin Mielke wrote: > No use for this, as the box is completely powered off... as if you pulled > the cable... Strange, but I have seen the actual end of the power cable being too long and not connecting fully cause this. I pulled the cable from the wall

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Jay Smith
ure and watch the r.p.m. on the fans >> w/o going to BIOS-level? >> >> Thanks, >> Martin >> >> >> - Original Message >> From: Basil Chupin [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: opensuse opensuse@opensuse.org> >> Sent: Monday

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 08 January 2007 08:37, Basil Chupin wrote: > Clayton wrote: > >> is there any way to check the temperature and watch the r.p.m. on the > >> fans w/o > >> going to BIOS-level? > > > > lm-sensors works well for this. Once you ran sensors-detect you can > > use lots of different tools to vi

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 08 January 2007 07:59, Basil Chupin wrote: > > Crashing happens at random... well, haven't sit back watching the box > > till it dies/powers off... Anyway, the last crash happened to me > > yesterday while working and listening to some streams using amaroK.  I > > tried the streams again

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 08 January 2007 07:29, Hans van der Merwe wrote: > "totally powered off" ? > The power supply fan is still running I guess? > > More info. > Does it crash while you're working, or after some time, while some GL > screensaver is running...? Just went through something like that here

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Clayton
> If you want a GUI based output of this, you have more choices than you > can shake a proverbial stick at. I like SuperKaramba and the Cyanpses > plugin. > http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html Just for the record, that netdragon url is deprecated. superkaramba is at version 0.41

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Tom Patton
sorry...must remember ctrl-L! Perhaps you should choose a different session type on login, like fvwm, and see if it stops. That would isolate kde and screensaver issues. Then I'd try booting with acpi off... Tom On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 05:17 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote: > No use for this, as th

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Mathias Homann
Clayton schrieb: > If you want a GUI based output of this, you have more choices than you > can shake a proverbial stick at. I like SuperKaramba and the Cyanpses > plugin. > http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html Just for the record, that netdragon url is deprecated. superkaramba i

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Clayton
> lm-sensors works well for this. Once you ran sensors-detect you can > use lots of different tools to view the fan rpm/core temps etc. > (KSensors, gkrelm, SuperKaramba and pretty much any monitoring plugin, > etc etc). Thanks for this. I'll now try these lm-sensors thing. (I rather miss the Mo

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Leen de Braal
> Martin Mielke wrote: >> No use for this, as the box is completely powered off... as if you >> pulled the cable... > > if really so it's off course a HW problem, not any software one > Think so too. Open the case and check the thickness of the dust-layer on your coolingblock on the cpu (under th

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread jdd
Martin Mielke wrote: No use for this, as the box is completely powered off... as if you pulled the cable... if really so it's off course a HW problem, not any software one may be problem with the power cable (I experienced this myself) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Votez pour nous, merci http

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Basil Chupin
Clayton wrote: is there any way to check the temperature and watch the r.p.m. on the fans w/o going to BIOS-level? lm-sensors works well for this. Once you ran sensors-detect you can use lots of different tools to view the fan rpm/core temps etc. (KSensors, gkrelm, SuperKaramba and pretty muc

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Basil Chupin
:35 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often [ snip ] Is it overheating and the CPU shuts down (but, of course, the fan keeps going to cool it)? (To begin with: do not top-post, please.) I have no idea if it is possible to watch the temp. I guess there must be a way in Linux

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Hans van der Merwe
ay, January 8, 2007 1:55:45 PM > Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often > > [ snip ] > > > Try connecting it to a second PC/Laptop and ping it from there (when its > stuck). > This will tell if the OS is dead or just the UI. > > ps. Make sure your no

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Clayton
is there any way to check the temperature and watch the r.p.m. on the fans w/o going to BIOS-level? lm-sensors works well for this. Once you ran sensors-detect you can use lots of different tools to view the fan rpm/core temps etc. (KSensors, gkrelm, SuperKaramba and pretty much any monitoring

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Martin Mielke
No use for this, as the box is completely powered off... as if you pulled the cable... - Original Message From: Hans van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: opensuse Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 1:55:45 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often [ snip ]

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Martin Mielke
ensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often [ snip ] Is it overheating and the CPU shuts down (but, of course, the fan keeps going to cool it)? Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tragedy is just around the corner. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Basil Chupin
Martin Mielke wrote: Hi, everything seems to be working correctly. Fans happily spinning and so... As for the other reply I got on the list: this is not a laptop, so no hibernation should take place. The Kpowersaved isn't even running. Crashing happens at random... well, haven't sit back watc

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Hans van der Merwe
> cause, as I listen to streams most of the time... > > > Thanks, > Martin > > - Original Message > From: Hans van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: opensuse > Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 1:29:04 PM > Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashi

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Martin Mielke
der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: opensuse Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 1:29:04 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often [ snip ] > "totally powered off" ? The power supply fan is still running I guess? More info. Does it crash while you're working,

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Hans van der Merwe
Monday, January 8, 2007 12:29:33 PM > Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often > > > On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 03:25 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > for some strange reason, my openSuSE 10.2 is crashing too often these days > > with,

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Basil Chupin
Martin Mielke wrote: Hi, it's a "totally powered off"-like crash. Almost looks like some setting is switching off the computer after a certain period of time - like hibernating it, but more so :-) . Cheers. -- In a period of great joy and pleasure you are comforted by the thought that tr

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Martin Mielke
Hi, it's a "totally powered off"-like crash. Martin - Original Message From: Hans van der Merwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: opensuse Sent: Monday, January 8, 2007 12:29:33 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 03:25

Re: [opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Hans van der Merwe
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 03:25 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote: > Hi all! > > for some strange reason, my openSuSE 10.2 is crashing too often these days > with, apparently, no reason. > Here's an example taken from "last | grep crash": > What kind of crash is it? Totally dead, can still ping, mouse po

[opensuse] openSuSE 10.2 crashing too often

2007-01-08 Thread Martin Mielke
Hi all! for some strange reason, my openSuSE 10.2 is crashing too often these days with, apparently, no reason. Here's an example taken from "last | grep crash": martin pts/7 Mon Jan 8 03:00 - crash (08:55) martin pts/6 Mon Jan 8 03:00 - cra