Re: [opensuse-factory] Shouldn't AlphaX be called DevelX?

2006-08-10 Thread Rajko M
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: > On Thursday 10 August 2006 15:27, Marcus Meissner wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 02:29:36PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10-08-2006 14:45 >>> In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen update and 10.1, I think we s

Re: [opensuse-factory] Package grouping

2006-08-10 Thread Rajko M
Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Rajko M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I would try to see what kind of computers are in use, what should be >> installed by default on each to make it the most usable right out of the >> box: >> desktop, workstation (audio, video, graphic), gaming, general purpose, >> lap

[opensuse-factory] fglrx Bugs

2006-08-10 Thread Hans-Peter Holler
Please notice: [Bug 477]  New: firegl_public.c does not compile with Kernel 2.6.18 http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477 [Bug 478]  New: [R200Setup] X version mismatch - detected X.org 7.2.-1.2, required X.org 7.1.0.0 http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478 Hans-Peter

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Andreas Jaeger
jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andreas Jaeger a écrit : > >> My plan is more to integrate risky stuff as early as possible, >> e.g. patterns now and X11R7 now ;-) > > I would say X11R7 yes (we are not the only ones to test it), but > Pattern... we are not even sure of what they are :-() - > so

[opensuse-factory] name of the opensuse distribution

2006-08-10 Thread jdd
I wont revive a troll nor contest the new openSUSE name. But we have an history and a wiki and we must take care of all that stuff. How will we call the distribution in the wiki pages? what if we speak of 9.3 ? what if we speak of all of them? I propose here what could be written in the wiki

[opensuse-factory] gnome 2.14/5

2006-08-10 Thread Richard Bown
Hi Can some point me in the direction of the rpms for gnome 2.14 or 2.15 if packaged. I need to install to check if a bug, already on bugzilla is a suse bug or a gnome bug. Other distros running gnome 2.14 do not exhibit the same bug. TIA Richard

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread jdd
Andreas Jaeger a écrit : My plan is more to integrate risky stuff as early as possible, e.g. patterns now and X11R7 now ;-) I would say X11R7 yes (we are not the only ones to test it), but Pattern... we are not even sure of what they are :-() - so be extremely carefull. May make them optiona

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Andreas Jaeger
"Dominique Leuenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was also very concerned when I saw the 'most annoying bugs' list > today (as I epxected Alpha 3). > The worst that can happen to openSUSE is having (again) a release with > bugs like the updater in 10.1. Even though they are fixed now, it's >

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Andreas Jaeger
jdd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen update and > 10.1, I think we should have _two_ feature freeze dates... > > > One for the _new things_ (patterns, Xorg 7...) and one for the _new > releases_ of already used things (Kde, Gnome) We had basica

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread jdd
Tobias Burnus a écrit : Well, sometimes the dependencies are broken in Factory. Therefore I would label Factory as "Unstable" and the alpha releases as "Testing". For them who are not familiar with debian names, http://www.debian.org/releases/ stable is debian 3.1 Sarge. Debian become "3" 3

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi, Stefan Dirsch wrote: >> # rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* >> error: Failed dependencies: >> libXft.so.1 is needed by (installed) intel-iidb91036-9.1.036-1.i386 >> libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) xterm-215-2.x86_64 > Ok. But I can't understand the Xaw issue: > libXaw.so.8()(

Re: [opensuse-factory] Running a program when launching the SUSE install part

2006-08-10 Thread Andreas Hanke
Hi, Pascal Bleser schrieb: > I don't know whether zypp is currently capable of using a "naked" > directory of RPMs as an installation source. If it doesn't, I think that > just using createrepo is a better solution than adding more complexity > to zypp. too late - according to comment 13 of bug 1

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi, Stefan Dirsch schrieb: > Both libs are in xorg-x11-libs. > Ok, I was mislead by: # rpm -Uvh xorg-x11-* error: Failed dependencies: libXft.so.1 is needed by (installed) intel-iidb91036-9.1.036-1.i386 libXaw.so.8()(64bit) is needed by (installed) xterm-215-2.x86_64 The probl

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 03:36:12PM +0200, Tobias Burnus wrote: > also the libgfortran.rpm was part of Factory. (I think also the current > Factory tree has packages-dependency problems, at least I miss two > xorg-x11-lib*rpm packages: libXft.so.1 and libXaw.so.8. The xorg*rpm are > all dated 6 to

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Andreas Vetter
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Tobias Burnus wrote: > Hi, > > houghi wrote: > > That does already exist. Sort of. Stable is 10.1. Testing is Factory and > > unstable is adding extra repositories and install stuff from non-suse > > places. > > > > As least that is how I see it. > > > Well, sometimes the

Re: [opensuse-factory] X.Org 7 for Factory

2006-08-10 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 09:36:46AM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote: > 2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:34:12PM +0300, Ain Vagula wrote: > >> I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking > >> fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi, houghi wrote: > That does already exist. Sort of. Stable is 10.1. Testing is Factory and > unstable is adding extra repositories and install stuff from non-suse > places. > > As least that is how I see it. > Well, sometimes the dependencies are broken in Factory. Therefore I would label Fac

Re: [opensuse-factory] Network Install WAS: Re: Factory miniiso dies during startup

2006-08-10 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Št 10. August 2006 10:57 Hans-Peter Jansen napísal: > Hi Stano, > > Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2006 08:31 schrieb Stanislav Visnovsky: > > Dňa St 9. August 2006 18:23 Hans-Peter Jansen napísal: > > > * loop mount all isos, and copy the files: > > >cp -a /mnt/* /srv/suse/10.2/cd{1..5} > > >

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread houghi
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 01:45:12PM +0200, jdd wrote: > an other solution should be to use a debian like calendar (I > speak of the three distros, stable, unstable and testing, > not of the delay between releases :-) That does already exist. Sort of. Stable is 10.1. Testing is Factory and unstabl

Re: [opensuse-factory] Shouldn't AlphaX be called DevelX?

2006-08-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:12:30PM +0300, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote: > On Thursday 10 August 2006 15:27, Marcus Meissner wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 02:29:36PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10-08-2006 14:45 >>> > > > > > > > >In order not to do again the mista

Re: [opensuse-factory] Shouldn't AlphaX be called DevelX?

2006-08-10 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Thursday 10 August 2006 15:12 schrieb Silviu Marin-Caea: > On Thursday 10 August 2006 15:27, Marcus Meissner wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 02:29:36PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10-08-2006 14:45 >>> > > > > > > > >In order not to do again the mistakes mad

[opensuse-factory] Shouldn't AlphaX be called DevelX?

2006-08-10 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Thursday 10 August 2006 15:27, Marcus Meissner wrote: > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 02:29:36PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10-08-2006 14:45 >>> > > > > > >In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen > > >update and 10.1, I think we should have _two_ feat

Re: [opensuse-factory] X.Org 7 for Factory

2006-08-10 Thread Juan Erbes
2006/8/7, Stefan Dirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:34:12PM +0300, Ain Vagula wrote: > I can reproduce this problem with missing fonts in KDE and blinking > fonts in Gnome when nvidia driver is enabled, after switching to > nv-driver back problem is gone. > I installed driver

[opensuse-factory] Mailinglist migrated

2006-08-10 Thread Henne Vogelsang
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Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 02:29:36PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10-08-2006 14:45 >>> > >In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen > >update and 10.1, I think we should have _two_ feature freeze > >dates... > > > >One for the _new things_ (patterns, Xor

Re: [opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10-08-2006 14:45 >>> >In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen >update and 10.1, I think we should have _two_ feature freeze >dates...>>One for the _new things_ (patterns, Xorg 7...) and one for >the _new releases_ of already used things (Kde, Gnome)>>I think t

[opensuse-factory] feature freeze dates for 10.2

2006-08-10 Thread jdd
In order not to do again the mistakes made with the zen update and 10.1, I think we should have _two_ feature freeze dates... One for the _new things_ (patterns, Xorg 7...) and one for the _new releases_ of already used things (Kde, Gnome) I think the latter are already tested by they develo

[opensuse-factory] Re: Hacking SuSE installation process.

2006-08-10 Thread Samuel Partida
2006/8/10, houghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 12:21:07PM +0200, Samuel Partida wrote: Please do not toppost. > Hi Adrian, thanks for your answer, so, I think (sadly) that the only > way I have now is to work directly with the released images. > > Really what I want to know now

Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Hacking SuSE installation process.

2006-08-10 Thread houghi
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 12:21:07PM +0200, Samuel Partida wrote: Please do not toppost. > Hi Adrian, thanks for your answer, so, I think (sadly) that the only > way I have now is to work directly with the released images. > > Really what I want to know now is about the root image that linuxrc > l

[opensuse-factory] Re: Hacking SuSE installation process.

2006-08-10 Thread Samuel Partida
You are right, that might be a good starting point. I'm using the 'trial and error' method too but I think it would be more productive with some help from the developers. If they are planning to document the process and some of us are playing with the boot cds to know how do they work, then it sh

Re: [opensuse-factory] Hacking SuSE installation process.

2006-08-10 Thread Harry ten Berge
Hi, We've 'hacked' the installation process. Starting point is AutoYaST, which has good documentation. After that we've used 'trial and error' with the different components of the SUSE boot cd/dvd. On 8/10/06, Samuel Partida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi people, I don't know if this is the cor

[opensuse-factory] Re: Hacking SuSE installation process.

2006-08-10 Thread Samuel Partida
Hi Adrian, thanks for your answer, so, I think (sadly) that the only way I have now is to work directly with the released images. Really what I want to know now is about the root image that linuxrc loads at the installation process, but I think it is part of the build process. If there is any po

Re: [opensuse-factory] Hacking SuSE installation process.

2006-08-10 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Thursday 10 August 2006 12:04 schrieb Samuel Partida: > Hi people, I don't know if this is the correct list. I'm working on a > project related with SuSE Linux distribution and we need to achieve > some development skills on SuSE. > > I would like to know if there are any documents describing pr

[opensuse-factory] Hacking SuSE installation process.

2006-08-10 Thread Samuel Partida
Hi people, I don't know if this is the correct list. I'm working on a project related with SuSE Linux distribution and we need to achieve some development skills on SuSE. I would like to know if there are any documents describing procedures on SuSE development. Now i'm interested on knowing the

Re: [opensuse-factory] Network Install WAS: Re: Factory miniiso dies during startup

2006-08-10 Thread Hans-Peter Jansen
Hi Stano, Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2006 08:31 schrieb Stanislav Visnovsky: > Dňa St 9. August 2006 18:23 Hans-Peter Jansen napísal: > > * loop mount all isos, and copy the files: > >cp -a /mnt/* /srv/suse/10.2/cd{1..5} > >alternatively download and use the inst-source tree directly > > O