On Sat, 18 Mar 2006, houghi wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:18:12PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> > And most machine bought today with a dual-layer burner built in will tend
> > to
> > have >150GB hard disks - laptops being an exception, the DL burnered laptop
> > has only 80GB of disk space.
Am Samstag, 18. März 2006 16:50 schrieb houghi:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:18:12PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
>
> > I'm logging into the Wiki as I write this, I'll start on writing a page
> > for this... (I did a search and didn't find an existing one)
> >
> > I propose something like:
> >
> >
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:18:12PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> And most machine bought today with a dual-layer burner built in will tend to
> have >150GB hard disks - laptops being an exception, the DL burnered laptop
> has only 80GB of disk space...
Not all systems that will run SUSE are the m
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:19:47PM +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
> It doesn't help that YOU can work with a 10GB "/" partition, not even
> that I can work with 8GB. My suggestion: whenever hwinfo says there is a
> DVD burner in the system the default suggestion should be a separate
> 10GB "/t
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 04:09:47PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> The proposed max of 20GB might help
> some people with larger drives and larger needs, and has been said, it is
> dynamic, so it won't grab 20GB on a 30GB driver, and it is just a suggestion.
Again I understand that it is dynamic. Y
houghi wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:49:58PM +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
>
>> Let's assume users have got a DVD burning device. Then the default setup
>> of a SUSE 10.1 installation puts intermediate burning files into /tmp.
>>
>
> I have a DVD burner, 10GB space and no proble
Am Samstag, 18. März 2006 16:06 schrieb houghi:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:49:58PM +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
> > Let's assume users have got a DVD burning device. Then the default setup
> > of a SUSE 10.1 installation puts intermediate burning files into /tmp.
>
> I have a DVD burner, 1
Am Samstag, 18. März 2006 15:30 schrieb houghi:
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:57:39AM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> > With a fairly typical developer install, with Gnome and KDE loaded on my
> > laptop, that crashed through the 10GB barrier that YaST suggests at
> > install time. If I'd thought that
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 03:49:58PM +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
> Let's assume users have got a DVD burning device. Then the default setup
> of a SUSE 10.1 installation puts intermediate burning files into /tmp.
I have a DVD burner, 10GB space and no problems.
> Which is normally a directo
David Wright wrote:
> Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes suggested by
> YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just went to install IBM
> Rational Software Architect. The install files take up around 2.5GB of space
> and the installed program itself tak
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:57:39AM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> With a fairly typical developer install, with Gnome and KDE loaded on my
> laptop, that crashed through the 10GB barrier that YaST suggests at install
> time. If I'd thought that I might need such a big app and had made allowances
>
Am Freitag, 17. März 2006 23:24 schrieb Hans Witvliet:
> On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:09 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes
> > > suggested by YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop an
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:09 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes suggested
> > by
> > YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just went to install
> > IBM
> > Rational Software
Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 20:47 schrieb houghi:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:42:21PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> > I only posted to make people aware that the default might be a little
> > small for some people, I hadn't expected such a big discussion. :-}
>
> What I read is indeed that it MIGH
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> Perhaps another bugzilla candidate:
> If you decide not to accept the suggestions made by YaST, you can choose
> between 3 options now:
>
> 1. change suggestion
> 2. custom partitioning based on suggestion
> 3. expert partitioning
>
> Does anybody
On Thursday 16 March 2006 14:37, houghi wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:15:51PM -0500, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> > Why does it have to be automated, really?
>
> Ease of use
>
> > A simple question to the user could briefly explain intent, why a
> > different size may be used, what the recommen
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 07:42:21PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> I only posted to make people aware that the default might be a little small
> for some people, I hadn't expected such a big discussion. :-}
What I read is indeed that it MIGHT be for SOME people. If it would be
that it WILL be for MO
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 12:15:51PM -0500, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> Why does it have to be automated, really?
Ease of use
> A simple question to the user could briefly explain intent, why a different
> size may be used, what the recommended guesstimate is, and so on. Most users
> who don't ca
Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 13:38 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 13:09 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> >> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes
> >> > sugge
On Thursday 16 March 2006 12:01, houghi wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 05:36:41PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> > > For large drives, that is not a real problem. The problem comes with
> > > smaller drives. I personally feel that 20GB is overkill. At this moment
> > > I use 5GB on /. That woul
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 05:36:41PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> > For large drives, that is not a real problem. The problem comes with
> > smaller drives. I personally feel that 20GB is overkill. At this moment I
> > use 5GB on /. That would mean that 15GB or 10% of my current JD won't be
> > u
Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 17:32 schrieb houghi:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 01:24:51PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> > You can change the upper limit to 20 GB I think. New machines often have
> > harddisk with 250 or more GB. Also games like Doom or Quake need more
> > than 2 GB!
>
> For large
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 01:32:41PM +0100, Andreas Vetter wrote:
> But I am not aware of side effects, i.e. I don't know the
> algorithm.
1/3rd / and 2/3rd /home with a maximimum of 10GB
> E.g. when you have a Laptop and 30
> GB free space, you usually do not want everything in /. But an additi
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 01:24:51PM +0100, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> You can change the upper limit to 20 GB I think. New machines often have
> harddisk with 250 or more GB. Also games like Doom or Quake need more than 2
> GB!
For large drives, that is not a real problem. The problem comes with
> Perhaps another bugzilla candidate:
> If you decide not to accept the suggestions made by YaST, you can choose
> between 3 options now:
>
> 1. change suggestion
> 2. custom partitioning based on suggestion
> 3. expert partitioning
>
> Does anybody use the second one? In my opinion it makes things
On 16 Mar 2006 at 14:44, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> Right, but LVM makes many problems for beginners. It's hard to start a system
> with LVM (e.g from CD) if the bootloader is broken. It's even harder if you
> want to have encrypted filesystems.
Yes, two bugzillas: 1) booting from LVM doesn't wo
On 16 Mar 2006 at 14:02, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> Perhaps another bugzilla candidate:
> If you decide not to accept the suggestions made by YaST, you can choose
> between 3 options now:
>
> 1. change suggestion
> 2. custom partitioning based on suggestion
> 3. expert partitioning
>
> Does any
On Thursday 16 March 2006 15:44, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 14:35 schrieb Pascal Bleser:
> > Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> > > On Thursday 16 March 2006 14:54, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> > >> Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > >> How often do I see people in IRC askin
Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 14:35 schrieb Pascal Bleser:
> Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 March 2006 14:54, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> >> Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
>
> ...
>
> >> How often do I see people in IRC asking for a way to add disk space to
> >> their Linux partition. Well, if it
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
On Thursday 16 March 2006 14:54, Pascal Bleser wrote:
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
...
How often do I see people in IRC asking for a way to add disk space to
their Linux partition. Well, if it hasn't been virtualized with LVM in
the first place
Well, if all they had was
On Thursday 16 March 2006 14:54, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> ...
>
> > I use one large partition for everything.
> >
> > Whenever I reinstall (every SUSE alpha/beta):
> > 1. I mount the partition during installation ([Ctrl+Alt+F2] gives me a
> > console 2. delete everything ex
Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 14:06 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Perhaps another bugzilla candidate:
>
> But none for 10.1 too solve...
Come on, there is still one month left ;-)
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Marcel Hilzinger
Linux New Media AG
Süskind
Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
...
You can change the upper limit to 20 GB I think. New machines often have
harddisk with 250 or more GB. Also games like Doom or Quake need more than 2
GB!
And: shrinking a big root partition later is easier, than growing it :-)
Depends, you cannot shrink filesyste
Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Perhaps another bugzilla candidate:
But none for 10.1 too solve...
> If you decide not to accept the suggestions made by YaST, you can choose
> between 3 options now:
>
> 1. change suggestion
> 2. custom partitioning based on suggestion
> 3. exper
Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 13:38 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 13:09 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> >> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes
> >> > sugge
Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
...
I use one large partition for everything.
Whenever I reinstall (every SUSE alpha/beta):
1. I mount the partition during installation ([Ctrl+Alt+F2] gives me a console
2. delete everything except /home2 (where I keep my data)
wtf is /home2 supposed to be ? ;)
Just d
Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 13:09 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
>> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes
>> > suggested by YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just
>>
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes suggested
> > by
> > YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just went to install
> > IBM
> > Rational Software Architect. T
On Thursday 16 March 2006 14:09, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes
> > suggested by YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just
> > went to install IBM Rational Software Architect. The i
Am Donnerstag, 16. März 2006 13:09 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes
> > suggested by YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just
> > went to install IBM Rational Software Architect. T
David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes suggested by
> YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just went to install IBM
> Rational Software Architect. The install files take up around 2.5GB of space
> and the instal
Just a word of warning regarding the new default partition sizes suggested by
YaST. I have a 10GB root partition on my laptop and just went to install IBM
Rational Software Architect. The install files take up around 2.5GB of space
and the installed program itself takes another 2GB (I eliminated
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