Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Michael Loeffler
On Friday 27 April 2007 03:11, Gary Ekker wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 17:31 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: Dear Gnome and Nautilus Team leaders, would it be all that difficult to change the default gnome installation to carry GnomeBaker with it? it's insultive to the end user not to have

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Gabriel .
I don't think they can't coexist. I think the user should choose what to install, considering both desktop environments have equivalent applications for basic desktop usage. KDE apps in GNOME (and viceversa), even if themed, are not well integrated and give the impression of an inconsistent

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 27 April 2007 04:25, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: This is just unnecessary purism. Why do you think both cannot coexist, if just for their shared libraries? Ciao, Marcus I don't think they can't coexist. I think the user should choose what to install, considering both desktop

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 27 April 2007 06:41, Gabriel . wrote: I don't think they can't coexist. I think the user should choose what to install, considering both desktop environments have equivalent applications for basic desktop usage. KDE apps in GNOME (and viceversa), even if themed, are not well

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
I have feeling that Ubuntu/Kubuntu way would be solution that you are looking for, but taking that some applications in both desktop environments are mature while counterpart is far from that, making graphic style or size of system priority will affect functionality. I agree, that's the

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 02:34:09PM +0200, Alberto Passalacqua wrote: I have feeling that Ubuntu/Kubuntu way would be solution that you are looking for, but taking that some applications in both desktop environments are mature while counterpart is far from that, making graphic style or

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
Il giorno ven, 27/04/2007 alle 14.39 +0200, Marcus Meissner ha scritto: This is just a bit of a strawman I guess. You guess wrong, but that's OK. It's some time I'm working at that. Last time I compared distros it was Red Hat 9 vs. SUSE 9. The only thing Red Hat got better is graphic

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 27 April 2007 07:50, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: I'm not sure a d1{gnome,kde}-*.iso is what I'd like to see in openSUSE. Hi Dominic, I'm sure that I wouldn't like. Presence of both is openSUSE advantage. That is what many describe as more polished and useful. While I can agree

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread James Tremblay
On Friday 27 April 2007 10:00, Rajko M. wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007 07:50, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: I'm not sure a d1{gnome,kde}-*.iso is what I'd like to see in openSUSE. Hi Dominic, I'm sure that I wouldn't like. Presence of both is openSUSE advantage. That is what many describe

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 27 April 2007 10:02, James Tremblay wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007 10:00, Rajko M. wrote: It might be good to analyze software piece by piece, that might benefit discusion to move from opinions to facts, and help both desktops to look better and be more functional. But,

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-27 Thread James Tremblay
On Friday 27 April 2007 12:15, Rajko M. wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007 10:02, James Tremblay wrote: On Friday 27 April 2007 10:00, Rajko M. wrote: It might be good to analyze software piece by piece, that might benefit discusion to move from opinions to facts, and help both

[opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-26 Thread James Tremblay
Dear Gnome and Nautilus Team leaders, would it be all that difficult to change the default gnome installation to carry GnomeBaker with it? it's insultive to the end user not to have simple md5sum checking or even have the ability to tell it to write at best possible speed then verify. Which is

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-26 Thread JP Rosevear
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 17:31 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: Dear Gnome and Nautilus Team leaders, would it be all that difficult to change the default gnome installation to carry GnomeBaker with it? it's insultive to the end user not to have simple md5sum checking or even have the ability to

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-26 Thread Gary Ekker
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 17:31 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: Dear Gnome and Nautilus Team leaders, would it be all that difficult to change the default gnome installation to carry GnomeBaker with it? it's insultive to the end user not to have simple md5sum checking or even have the ability to

Re: [opensuse-factory] gnomebaker

2007-04-26 Thread JP Rosevear
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 21:15 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: On Thursday 26 April 2007 19:31, you wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 17:31 -0400, James Tremblay wrote: Dear Gnome and Nautilus Team leaders, would it be all that difficult to change the default gnome installation to carry