Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion

2016-09-07 Thread Raymond Paik
All, Glad to see the thread coming back to life (plus comments on the wiki) :-) Definitely understand concerns about the composite score. Maybe another option would be to start by looking at 4 areas (git, Jira, wiki, etc.) individually. I also want to suggest that if a project is active (and eve

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion

2016-09-07 Thread Daniel Smith
Hello All. My take on this and sorry maybe a bit blunt, but I don’t see what the purpose is here? While guideline, guidance and such are good things, the discussion below seems awfully heavy and very boxed in. As Chris in the evaluation on how to improve the community, I am not sure how w

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion

2016-09-07 Thread Christopher Price
Good comments Dave and everyone, I’d like to share my take on it is this. I don’t see any problem in looking at the metrics we already publish and using them to help us create a better understanding across our community on how we go about getting things done. (Maybe also helping find ways of i

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Poll for the OPNFV D-release naming

2016-09-07 Thread Raymond Paik
Bumping the thread to remind people that the poll closes in 2 days :-) On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Raymond Paik wrote: > Everyone: > > Here's the link to the D-release naming poll: https://www. > surveymonkey.com/r/6639ZCC > > The poll will close at 5pm Pacific Time on September 9th (Friday)

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [SFC][FUEL] configuration example, specifying concrete SFs in the SFP

2016-09-07 Thread Michal Skalski
Hi, Thank you Tim! Script used in Fuel sfc scenario is pointing to SFC_colorado branch of your repository, so it also should pick up this change automatically in next CI job run. Regards, Michal > On 07 Sep 2016, at 21:03, Tim Rozet wrote: > > Hi All, > I just fixed/tested fixing the VNF ord

[opnfv-tech-discuss] Technical Community Discussion Canceled Tomorrow (9/8)

2016-09-07 Thread HU, BIN
Hello community, There is no new project proposal in the backlog. And there is not urgent issue to discuss either. So I propose to cancel our technical discussion tomorrow (9/8) so that everyone can focus on the last mile of Colorado release. Thank you Bin _

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] How are Documentation/Reference Projects Published in C release

2016-09-07 Thread HU, BIN
Edgar, Thank you for your point. I think we are discussing *doc-only projects*, and the docs produced by those projects. So in your example, “State of NFV and OPNFV update” is not applicable here. Those documents are handled by different teams in different ways, and out of scope of our discuss

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] How are Documentation/Reference Projects Published in C release

2016-09-07 Thread Heather Kirksey
Not to add to an already long discussion, but I suppose my main question is what's the most effective way to get this sort of documentation out there. I hear all the points about a formal publication process about the requirements, and I think Daniel's point about requesting input and comments is v

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] How are Documentation/Reference Projects Published in C release

2016-09-07 Thread stpierre, edgar
Hi Bin, To your point, and to Georg’s point earlier: yes, it’s possible to create these artificial linkages for milestones. And I am sure there are documents that will be of value to be aligned with a release. However, I don’t think all documents are tied to a release, and, yes, I think a docu

[opnfv-tech-discuss] [netready] D-release scoping

2016-09-07 Thread Georg Kunz
Hi NetReady folks, as promised in our last meeting, I would like to start a discussion about the scope of NetReady for the D-release cycle. Hoping for triggering good discussions, I have started to put together an initial list of items I'd like to propose for the D-release cycle. At first, a b

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] How are Documentation/Reference Projects Published in C release

2016-09-07 Thread HU, BIN
David, Please refer to http://lists.opnfv.org/pipermail/opnfv-tech-discuss/2016-September/012465.html for an example of possible milestones, i.e. a subset of current milestones that are applicable to doc-only projects. Thanks Bin From: David McBride [mailto:dmcbr...@linuxfoundation.org] Sent:

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [SFC][FUEL] configuration example, specifying concrete SFs in the SFP

2016-09-07 Thread Tim Rozet
Hi All, I just fixed/tested fixing the VNF ordering issue. I created/deleted a bunch of chains with different ordering for 3 VNFs, all were in the correct order in the RSP. The JIRA is: https://jira.opnfv.org/browse/SFC-47 There is also a link there to the commit, and it has been merged into th

[opnfv-tech-discuss] [SFC] [FUNCTEST] Failing floating IP in Boron

2016-09-07 Thread Tim Rozet
Hi, I pulled the Apex build from last night, and it looks like the problem (as previously thought) is fixed in RC2. Our build last night included an autorelease RC2 build, and I can ssh into cirros instances via floating IP. Our daily has not made it to the SFC deployment yet, but I expect fun

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] harmonized configuration set for OPNFV

2016-09-07 Thread Jack Morgan
Thanks for input from all. Since this is an issue that tracks multiple projects (Genesis, Pharos, Relneg, etc) I think having a Infra WG wiki page is where I will start. Then farm out JIRA tasks per project as needed. I think most of the

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] How are Documentation/Reference Projects Published in C release

2016-09-07 Thread David McBride
Thanks, Bryan. When I said "quality metrics", I was just using Bin's language. I'm still skeptical about the need for documentation-only projects to participate in a release. To be clear, it isn't a matter of whether I think these projects are important. I also think that there are other ways f

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [VSPERF] topology description scheme

2016-09-07 Thread Bill Michalowski
Hi everyone: I like to describe tests in terms of bridged port pairs (much like the PVP used today) but with adding a little more detail. P = Physical port V = Virtual port {} = Used to indicate a test scenario (A,B) = Bridged port pairing between ports A and B, using OVS and furthermore: P_Da

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-project-leads] [release][hackfest] Release Milestone Review presentation

2016-09-07 Thread Tim Rozet
For Apex, we have a wiki page where we try to keep a log of all the upstream work we have done (although I'm sure we are missing things). Might be a good place to start if we want to try to highlight upstream work: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/apex/Upstream+Tracking Tim Rozet Red Hat SDN Tea

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-project-leads] [release][hackfest] Release Milestone Review presentation

2016-09-07 Thread Sen, Prodip
This is absolutely one of the value-adds that OPNFV brings to the table – very much in line with part of the current mission statement we have been iterating on: “ .. by facilitating the development and evolution of NFV components in upstream open source projects and …”. We may need our Marketi

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-project-leads] [release][hackfest] Release Milestone Review presentation

2016-09-07 Thread Heather Kirksey
Tim and Bin Hu, Great stuff, thanks. I'm simply wondering if there's a way for us to communicate more formally to the industry on some of the things that we've learned for those who aren't involved as deeply in the development/bug-fixing work or reading our (awesome) documentation in detail. This

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [opnfv-tsc] Announcing the results of the Committer-at-Large TSC election

2016-09-07 Thread Sen, Prodip
Congratulations to the new TSC members. This is an important step in our continued efforts to sustain broad-based participation in OPNFV. - Prodip From: opnfv-tsc-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-tsc-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Raymond Paik Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 12:32

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [doctor] How to propose topics for D-release

2016-09-07 Thread Carlos Goncalves
Understood and agreed. Yes, we will need sooner or later to refactor our test scripts. That is a good sign, though. Means we are adding more and good stuff, and continue learning :-) Carlos From: Yujun Zhang [mailto:zhangyujun+...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 September 2016 16:20 To: Carlos Goncalves; T

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [doctor] How to propose topics for D-release

2016-09-07 Thread Yujun Zhang
It's fine for me to skip spec review step if it is just a simple task to track or we have already submit a blueprint in upstream. My idea is that when we have something complicated to implement in doctor. We'd better launch a spec review in gerrit. As the run.sh growing larger, it might become a

[opnfv-tech-discuss] OPNFV Projects - Security Threat Analysis

2016-09-07 Thread Luke Hinds
Hello All, We will shortly be sharing the results of the threat analysis audit that is underway within the security group. This will be in the format of a email sent to the PTL of each audited project, with a restricted Google Drive link to the report. The PTL’s email, will be added with view /

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion

2016-09-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, On 09/07/2016 02:24 AM, Frank Brockners (fbrockne) wrote: > +1. > > Also note that when we defined the project lifecycle we used metrics > like the ones mentioned only as guidance rather than something to > compute a composite value – and even there, we did not constrain things > to metrics i

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [VSPERF] topology description scheme

2016-09-07 Thread Tahhan, Maryam
Hi Folks I've added the suggested info to the following wiki https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/vsperf/VSPERF+Deployment+Topology+Description+Scheme for review later today Thanks Maryam From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf O

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] How are Documentation/Reference Projects Published in C release

2016-09-07 Thread Georg Kunz
Hi Edgar, Would a document repository really solve our problem here? What do we mean by “current documents”? Aren’t the gaps we identify somehow related to the state of the upstream projects we build an OPNFV release on? So, while a requirements doc will certainly be a living document across OP

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [doctor] How to propose topics for D-release

2016-09-07 Thread Carlos Goncalves
I didn’t mention earlier but we do use Gerrit for reviewing OpenStack specs before submitting upstream to review.openstack.org. Still, the point you are raising is that you feel we need to introduce specs for Doctor in general. Have you felt already the drawbacks you mentioned of using Jira whe

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] Following up on Project Health metrics discussion

2016-09-07 Thread Georg Kunz
Hi Tapio, While it might seem helpful for newcomers to see a ranking of projects by activity, I am wondering if newcomers really pick the projects they want to engage in based on activity rather than interest or need. If that is the case, I am wondering if smaller projects with less activity wo

[opnfv-tech-discuss] [bottlenecks] bottlenecks weekly meeting 09-08 (1:00-2:00 UTC, Thursday, 9:00-10:00 Beijing Time, Thursday, PDT 18:00-19:00 Wednesday )

2016-09-07 Thread Yuyang (Gabriel)
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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [doctor] How to propose topics for D-release

2016-09-07 Thread Yujun Zhang
In a short word - initial proposals to select => etherpad - draft specs to review => gerrit - approved items to track => JIRA On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 4:47 PM Yujun Zhang wrote: > Hi, Carlos > > The etherpad for release B looks good and I think we should continue using > it. > > On the w

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [doctor] How to propose topics for D-release

2016-09-07 Thread Yujun Zhang
Hi, Carlos The etherpad for release B looks good and I think we should continue using it. On the working items, personally I don't think JIRA is a good system for storing the spec for some reasons. 1. it is difficult to comment inline in JIRA issues 2. it is difficult to track the change h

[opnfv-tech-discuss] [multisite]Weekly meeting of Sept.8

2016-09-07 Thread joehuang
Hello, team, Last week, some topics to be worked in D-release were discussed, let's discuss more on these topics Agenda of Sept.8 2016 * Next step for Multisite project, scope, focus, etc IRC: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=opnfv-meeting 7:00-8:00 UTC (During summer time, means CET

Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [doctor] How to propose topics for D-release

2016-09-07 Thread Carlos Goncalves
We’ve been using etherpad, weekly meeting and F2F team meetings for brainstorming. The team even strives to plan and align public presentations (e.g. OpenStack and OPNFV Summit events). Examples: https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor https://etherpad.opnfv.org/p/doctor_use_case_for_b_release https

[opnfv-tech-discuss] [doctor] How to propose topics for D-release

2016-09-07 Thread Yujun Zhang
This topic was raised in the last meeting but one [1] which I was absent from. I'm not sure if there is any conclusion out. Here are my proposals. Please feel free to comment 1. using etherpad for brainstorming, since it is lightweight and real time 2. submit detail proposals to gerrit f