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> I don't think much of the aforementioned physical "destruction" methods;
> I also agree in that full disk encryption is the best way to go, if at
> all possible.
(snip)
While I don't think much of physical destruction either, the "encrypted
stora
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Alexander W. Janssen wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
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>> I have not run a tor server, so I do not know the exact requirements.
>> Can it be done from a ram drive?
>
> It could, but you'd need to make sure it doesn't swap/page down to disk,
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Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:35:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> Most data overwrite programs take too long-you do not have that time
>> when they are knocking down your door.
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> You have to power down the servers bef
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coderman wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2007 4:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ... Have you actually tested using a magnetic field for this ...
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> despite the rudeness of some of this thread,
(snip)
You sure aren't kidding... sheesh! =:o\
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> see http:/
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Alexander W. Janssen wrote:
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>> I guess you can read one persons attack but are blind to others
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> What attack?
OK, i swept back through the postings and /dev/ass wasn't nice too. Got
that, Eugen?
Whatever.
Back to busine
apologies in advance for veering this far off topic...
On Dec 2, 2007 2:25 PM, F. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ strange, dangerous, and likely to fail methods for destroying drives ]
use full disk encryption, even the latest ubuntu supports this.
destroy the disk keys and you've got platter
On Dec 2, 2007 2:25 PM, F. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ strange, dangerous, and likely to fail methods for destroying
drives ]
use full disk encryption, even the latest ubuntu supports this.
Last time I tried this with the Ubuntu 7.10 Alternate CD it didn't
work. The installer crashes
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coderman wrote:
> apologies in advance for veering this far off topic...
>
> On Dec 2, 2007 2:25 PM, F. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [ strange, dangerous, and likely to fail methods for destroying drives ]
>
> use full disk encryption, even the
privacy back-up storage concept:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1833093&group_id=178712&atid=886242
http://forums.truecrypt.org/viewtopic.php?t=8000
2007/12/3, F. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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By "full disk encryption" I guess your talking about access via a pass
phrase.
Judge: "Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such
time as you give us the pass phrase to your data"
Most data overwrite programs take too long-you do not have that time
when they are knocking down y
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> Judge: "Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such
> time as you give us the pass phrase to your data"
Only a matter of the UK at the moment. Bad enough though.
> Most data overwrite programs take too l
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:35:49PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Judge: "Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such
> time as you give us the pass phrase to your data"
Plausible deniability. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueCrypt
> Most data overwrite programs take too l
On Dec 4, 2007 3:35 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A strong magnetic field close to the hard drive will completely destroy
> the data making it impossible to recover. I will also probably fuckup
> the drive mechanism, rendering the drive useless.
If by strong you mean a super conducting magnet
On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:13:08 +0100 "Alexander W. Janssen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
>> Judge: "Ok you are to be held in contempt and in jail xyz, until such
>> time as you give us the pass phrase to your data"
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>Only a matter of the UK at the moment. Bad enough th
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Scott Bennett wrote:
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> I'm not a LINUX user, but I would be surprised if there were not some
> similar facility in LINUX, but I haven't the foggiest notion how one would get
> Windows XP to encrypt its swapping/paging file or even whether W
Hey Eugene, go fuck yourself ok? Have you actually tested using a
magnetic field for this, no.
Seems to me you're the one talking out of dev/ass, cuz you are one. And
don't put it past someone to wire a plastique device to the hard drive,
seems like a perfect solution for some terrorist, maybe a di
On Dec 5, 2007 4:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... Have you actually tested using a magnetic field for this ...
despite the rudeness of some of this thread, it really is difficult to
properly clear / purge data from a modern hard disk using a magnetic
field. we do this at work, and the dev
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 05:05:27PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 2.6K bytes in
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: Hey Eugene, go fuck yourself ok? Have you actually tested using a
: magnetic field for this, no.
: Seems to me you're the one talking out of dev/ass, cuz you are one. And
: don't put it past someone t
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> Thanks for the information. That's yet another way in which
> Microslop
> appears to have failed to keep up with the times.
Fwiw vista has bitlocker, which encrypts partitions or the whole hard disk.
Unfortunately it requires a trusted-platf
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:44:23 +0600 "Vlad \"SATtva\" Miller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Scott Bennett wrote on 05.12.2007 04:14:
I have not run a tor server, so I do not know the exact requirements.=
>
Can it be done from a ram drive?
>>> It could, but you'd need to make sure it does
Scott Bennett wrote on 05.12.2007 04:14:
>>> I have not run a tor server, so I do not know the exact requirements.
>>> Can it be done from a ram drive?
>> It could, but you'd need to make sure it doesn't swap/page down to disk,
>> which would be bad.
>>
> I'm not a LINUX user, but I would be s
no problem, I accept yours and others assertions that a home made
magnetic device won't work.
It occurs to me that in any case where even one operator knows or has
possession/knowledge of the keys or backups,
that that information could still be gained through torture/coercion in
rare cases where t
I guess you can read one persons attack but are blind to others (friend
of yours maybe?)
And I thought the people on this list were against censorship, unless
they, of course, are doing the censoring.
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:30:04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 05:05:27PM -
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I guess you can read one persons attack but are blind to others
What attack?
> And I thought the people on this list were against censorship, unless
> they, of course, are doing the censoring.
I'm trying to follow the thr
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