Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread Arian Sanusi
I ran a tor exit node for a couple of days on a vserver. short version of the story: The ISP got a DMCA-like takedown because of a torrent, they took down the box and send me a bill over 192€ (see attachment) for "work that occured because of distribution of copyright-protected material from the cu

Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread Arian Sanusi
Hi guys, draft of an email I intend to write to the DMCA-takedown sender (if you do not advise me of any better possibility the next 30 mins or so). > Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I am the operator of the server that was reachable under the IP > 188.40.178.66 that was accused for copyright infr

Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 02:07:31AM +0100, Arian Sanusi wrote: >Hi guys, >draft of an email I intend to write to the DMCA-takedown sender (if you >do not advise me of any better possibility the next 30 mins or so). >> Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, >> I am the operator of the server that was rea

Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread Arian Sanusi
Another Hi, somewhat more corrected version (thank you very much, Hannah!) > Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I am the operator of the server that was reachable under the IP > 188.40.178.66 that was accused for copyright infringements of material > which owner you represent. As you may noticed,

Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread Arian Sanusi
Andrew Lewman schrieb: > > There is a dmca template you can use. The dmca takedowns are simply > requests and hold little legal weight. Use the template at > https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-dmca-response.html.en for your > response. Think of the dmca notice as "we think your IP address did >

Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Arian Sanusi wrote: > Andrew Lewman schrieb: >> There is a dmca template you can use. The dmca takedowns are simply >> requests and hold little legal weight. Use the template at >> https://www.torproject.org/eff/tor-dmca-response.html.en for your >> response. Think of the dmca notice as "we thin

Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread grarpamp
Infringing Work: 90210 First Found: 21 Jan 2010 xx:xx:xx EST (GMT -0500) Last Found: 21 Jan 2010 xx:xx:xx EST (GMT -0500) IP Address: 188.40.xxx.xxx IP Port: 37278 Protocol: BitTorrent Torrent InfoHash: D1A9A5301B873BB56944F9EA23B23A9C330687ED Containing file(s): 90210.S02E12.Winter.Wonderland.HDTV

Re: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-23 Thread grarpamp
> place a judical complaint on me, plus they charge me quite a lot of > money (around 300$ so far). So I have to convince them that I dealt with And any ISP who treates its customers like this should be shot. Hundreds of $USD just to open a standard ticket and forward some email, that's ludicrou

AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-24 Thread Olaf Selke
If US law doesn't apply, why should one care about dmca notices? Regarding my exit node I simply ignore them. Olaf -- Gesendet von meinem Palm Pre

Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-24 Thread Arian Sanusi
Olaf Selke schrieb: > If US law doesn't apply, why should one care about dmca notices? > Regarding my exit node I simply ignore them. > > Olaf I don't know why one should, but I got that damn bill over 192€, thats what I mainly care about. I mean, if that was like 20€ I could live with that even if

Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-24 Thread Thomas . Hluchnik
Am Sonntag 24 Januar 2010 schrieb Arian Sanusi: > Olaf Selke schrieb: > > If US law doesn't apply, why should one care about dmca notices? > > Regarding my exit node I simply ignore them. > > > > Olaf > I don't know why one should, but I got that damn bill over 192€, thats > what I mainly care abou

Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-24 Thread idefix
> There is a german "Verein" of tor node admins, the German Privacy > Foundation. Hereby you are invited to join, see www.privacyfoundation.de. In addition, there is a mailinglist for exitnode-operators within Germany: http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2008/msg00043.html If you're searching fo

Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-24 Thread grarpamp
> In addition, there is a mailinglist for exitnode-operators within Germany: > http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2008/msg00043.html this pointer doesn't really help when the only available list archives strip anything with an '@' in the message as a misguided spamfighting attempt. the address

Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,

2010-01-24 Thread Robert Marquardt
In fact most IPSs classify DMCA notices as abuse and if you do not respond they will probably disconnect your machine. Another fact is that the mass of DMCA notices the copyright enforcement companies send to the ISPs could lead to a cancelation of your contract cause of the mass of "abuse".