RE: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
Apology accepted. We had to do a lot of hard work to get those superman-style crystal shafts. Among the things we had to do the get the shaft: - Stand on a piece of masking tape on the stage - Not make fun of the OCM program while we were getting the award - Not make fun of any of the other

170systems

2003-12-12 Thread Kirtish P Gaonkar
hi , Is Any body using 170systems ? Can you please send me the documents or any info you have. Also we are planning to interface 170systems to Oracle Financials . If anybody has already done this please can you send me the docs. Waiting for replies.. Regards Kirtish P. Gaonkar --

RE: wintercorp survey

2003-12-12 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: wintercorp survey DSS has a bunch... and if you do platform Unix you only get 3 results, adn they are all Oracle. -Original Message- From: Jacques Kilchoer To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/11/2003 6:04 PM Subject: wintercorp survey Can this be right?

permanently changing the 'optimal' setting

2003-12-12 Thread ryan_oracle
I change it with an alter rollback segment, but when i bounce the instance, it goes back to the default of 1m. is there a way to make the change permanent? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network

Re: Re: Little competition

2003-12-12 Thread Richard Foote
Hi Jonathan, SQL create tablespace bowie_test 2 datafile 'c:/bowie/bowie_test01.dbf' size 100m 3 extent management local uniform size 1m 4 segment space management auto; Tablespace created. SQL create table bowie_assm (ziggy number) 2 tablespace bowie_test 3 storage (initial 1m

Re: Configuring Veritas Netbackup Question

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Yechiel, Thanks for the clerification. I thought that Veritas purchased BackupExec and renamed it to NetBackup. When you say that Veritas provided an output option for RMAN are you referring to the storing of the RMAN output on disk or tape in a format that Veritas uses for it's tape drives?

Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread Richard Foote
Hi Robert, That's all very interesting. The various press releases at the time (e.g. http://www.dulcian.com/PRESS%20RELEASE_OCM.htm) all suggest that the 6 best Oracle experts in the world were handed these prestigious awards. Even the TUSC website only makes mention of these awards being handed

Re: Re: Little competition

2003-12-12 Thread Scott Behrens
Hey Richard, One of my desktop treasures is an autographed copy of Jonathan Lewis' book, Practical Oracle8i. The humorous, self-deprecating caption in the author's own hand: 'Never believe all you read.' Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/03 7:24:24 AM Hi Jonathan,SQL create tablespace

RE: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Jeremiah, You really had to expose your self to get the shaft as you so stated. I just have to show up at work. Congratulation on receiving the certification and being recognized for the knowledge you so willingly share. Is there really a live after being a DBA? I prefer creating furniture for

RE: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
All this nonsense about who got what and did they deserve it. Only one questions comes to mind. Are we all in High School or something? Did I miss the throwback in time? sheesh. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net --

Re: Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread ryan_oracle
how many people are actually OCMs? and those of you that are, has it helped you in getting work? From: Richard Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/12 Fri AM 07:54:26 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters? Hi

RE: Re[2]: char is going away?

2003-12-12 Thread Bob Lofstrand
Title: RE: Re[2]: char is going away? On Informix, at least as late as 9.1, using varchars was down right dangerous. There were numerous bugs associated with them. In my last shop we would not allow the use of varchars because of the grief they would cause. A few months after I moved on, I

RE: Re[2]: char is going away?

2003-12-12 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Re[2]: char is going away? Lucky us ... we are staying put on Oracle ... until the powers to be decide otherwise. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Tanel, Thanks for sharing the presentation in the 10g features. I started looking at the slides and I have a question about the cross platform transportable tablespaces and the command you used. From what I gather in the command I can take a Unix based datafile and convert it to a Microsoft

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
extreme parallelism:-) A share-nothing architecture. and some specific software that takes advantage of a hardware configuration.. It's pretty cool stuff for the high end in size DB's. I have seen/performed several comparisons.. And when you are spinning thru large result sets (millions of

Re: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread eric king
But if you run it on small server, ie Windows 2000/XP with less than 1GB memory, Teradata performance is aweful. It hangs from time to time and even some simple query takes considerable time, while Oracle and Microsoft SQL Server never behave like that. - Original Message -

Re: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Jonathan is correct - WalMart uses Teradata. And they're selling gallon-sized Vlasic pickles. I always wondered who was buying such a monstrosity. It's a bi-annual pickles supply in a single package. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net --

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
-Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT Jonathan is correct - WalMart uses Teradata. And they're selling gallon-sized Vlasic pickles. I always wondered who was

RE: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
LOL perhaps I was wrong then... I could have sworn you all had to go through a beta trial of the program, but maybe I've got some false memory stuck in my head, wouldn't be the first time. I stand corrected. Cheers! Robert -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread jaysingh1
Hi Gurus, I have accidentally deleted my table in development env. RMAN is the only backup available here. How do i recover the droped table? Any help would be really appreciated. TIA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mladen I'm pretty confident of one thing -- if they weren't selling, Wal-Mart would quickly stop selling them at that store. Most people don't think about it, but Sam Walton figured out a couple of things early on: 1. If you don't have the item on the shelf, people can't buy it. 2. Hire a

RE: rebuilding indexes - sure to cause a ruckus

2003-12-12 Thread Barbara Baker
You probably think you're joking. Unfortunately . . . We've been fighting with Oracle for several months about SEVERE performance degradation on an OpenVMS application after we upgraded the database to 8.1.7.4 One of Oracle's recommendations taken directly from our TAR just 2 weeks ago: o

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT A 9 year old little girl who will BUY pickle juice at school will insist on gallon jars of (good) pickles. Walmart isn't dumb, they know what they can and can't sell. April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate

Re[4]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Friday, December 12, 2003, 10:54:25 AM, Mladen Gogala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: MG And they're selling gallon-sized Vlasic pickles. I always wondered who MG was buying such a monstrosity. It's a bi-annual pickles supply in a single MG package. I just read an article about that, somewhere.

OT: More Advances in Netwotking to Support the Grid

2003-12-12 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
http://pr.caltech.edu/media/Press_Releases/PR12465.html -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: MacGregor, Ian A. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web

RE: 170systems

2003-12-12 Thread Nelson, Allan
We are running 170 Systems. Unfortunately over dblinks to a database hosted by our parent corporation. It is abysmally slow. I'll try and find some docs for you. Please reply to me off list with an email address capable of accepting mulit-megabyte pdf's at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allan

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Andy Rivenes
Take a look at TSPITR (tablespace point in time recovery), I believe that's how it's performed as I've never tried it. Essentially RMAN creates a temporary database, recovers the objects in the tablespace targeted for recovery, and then you can recover the data in the object(s) in question. At

Re: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
April, I wasn't saying that they were dumb and I know that the stuff is selling but I must admit that I would have a problem consuming a gallon of pickles before they get moldy and yucky. I'd probably turn into a pickle after that. I wasn't critical of Wal-Mart, they're only catering to the

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Jay, if it is 9.2.0.4 and if you have undo_retention set, you can do a flashback query. If not, you must recover the database to the specific time, you cannot recover just a single table. You should probably read the TSPITR recovery chapter in Rob Freeman's book. I have, a long time ago, but I've

8.1.7 Base - Replication Question

2003-12-12 Thread Nikhil Khimani
LG, Is it possible to establish further downstream snapshot replication from a snapshot site in 8.1.7.0.0/Solaris 2.8? I know this can be done in 8.1.7.4.x and 9i and I can not build multi-master replication due to restrictions :-( i.e. I'd like to perform: master -- snapshot (new master) --

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Igor Neyman
Mladen, Have you been to Sam's club or Costco? Those are the amounts they sell. Well, almost :) Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

RE: rebuilding indexes - sure to cause a ruckus

2003-12-12 Thread Bobak, Mark
Ouch. Suddenly, it seems not so funny -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You probably think you're joking. Unfortunately . . . We've been fighting with Oracle for several months about SEVERE performance

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Mladen Okay, now you've done it. Bear in mind that I grew up about 100 miles from Bentonville. Yew fancy-schmancy city slickers just don't know what good eatin is. Get a couple of your buddies, their coon dawgs, copius quantities of beer, and just relax in the back yard, drinking, eatin

Re[4]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Friday, December 12, 2003, 11:49:27 AM, Mladen Gogala ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: MG but I find it incredible that market demands gallon sized jars of MG pickles. What is next? 50 LBS bag of Hershey's kisses? You have to understand the way of thinking here in the States. Bigger = better. I once

RE: Re[2]: http:

2003-12-12 Thread Nelson, Allan
You may have something there. Lots of people with a real thing for chocolate would probably bless your name. Can you just here the Hail Malden calls rising up from Hershey PA and great centers of chocolate consumption across the nation, followed by cheers from cardiac specialists! :-) Allan

RE: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Josh Collier
Metalink Note:223543.1 has good information on how to recover just a single table using a modified TSPITR. I performed this operation successful on a data warehouse. Josh -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 8:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jay, if it is

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT A six pack of beer per person sitting outside near a swamp on a hot summer night watching a bug-zapper. Now that's entertainment! Jerry Whittle ( born and somewhat raised in Kentucky ) ASIFICS DBA NCI Information

Re: OT: More Advances in Netwotking to Support the Grid

2003-12-12 Thread ryan_oracle
how do you move over to the academic database world? it seems like the most interesting stuff is going on there? From: MacGregor, Ian A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/12/12 Fri AM 11:29:27 EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: More Advances in

Re: 10g new features (was: dc_used_extents ,dc_free_extents

2003-12-12 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! Tanel, Thanks for sharing the presentation in the 10g features. I started looking at the slides and I have a question about the cross platform transportable tablespaces and the command you used. From what I gather in the command I can take a Unix based datafile and convert it to a

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread jaysingh1
Dear Andy Mladen Thanks for your immediate help. BTW what is the best book for RMAN in the market( ver 9i). I heard some positive comments about Robert Freeman's book. Thanks Sami - Original Message - Date: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:34 am Take a look at TSPITR (tablespace point

IT at Walmart and Kmart - keeping it On-Topic

2003-12-12 Thread John Kanagaraj
Just trying to keep this On-topic! See extract of Wal-Mart's IT approach vs K-Mart http://searchcio.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid19_gci938869,00. html?track=NL-35 Wal-Mart's step change approach to IT investment during the 1990s is a great example. First, the company installed

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! I believe flashback query works only on existing tables, you can query deleted data from it for example, but you can't see dropped tables with it. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:59 PM Jay,

FGRD Vs ARCH

2003-12-12 Thread jaysingh1
Dear Gurus, What is the difference FGRD and ARCH in v$archived_log.creator column. I understand FGRD is foreground process. Exactly in what scenario the value will be populated as FGRD? I see something like below in my db. select recid,creator from v$archived_log RECID CREATOR - ---

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Simon . Anderson
You can use export and flashback to recover a dropped table. The only time I needed it, it gave a warning on the export but still worked OK. Simon Anderson SciSys Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/2003 17:49 Please respond to ORACLE-L To:

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Jared . Still
Time to kill this thread folks. Jared Whittle Jerome Contr NCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/2003 09:24 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Re[2]:

Re: Performance tuning in complex environment

2003-12-12 Thread Paul Drake
All, This sounds wy too familiar to me. My (blind) guess is that sql*net round trips is killing performance. System-wide could indicate this, but, as Jared states, trace out a specific session, and grab the session-specific info from v$sesstat, before and after. We brute forced the issue of

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Thater, William
FIRE IN THE HOLE! FIRE IN THE HOLE! BO!! MISSION COMPLETED SIR.;-) -- bILL "sHREK" tHATER oracle dba "i'M GOING TO WORK MY TICKET IF i CAN..." -- gILWELL SONG [EMAIL PROTECTED] tHERE'S

RE: Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread Pete Sharman
No idea how many there are at this stage. I'd suspect less than 100, and possibly even less than 50 at this stage. As for helping in get work, I haven't changed my job since I got it, but that really wasn't why I did it anyway. I did mine as one of the beta testers, so my reasons for doing it

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Andy Rivenes
The Oracle documentation. It's pretty good and that combined with Metalink should give you most everything you need to know. At 09:44 AM 12/12/2003 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Andy Mladen Thanks for your immediate help. BTW what is the best book for RMAN in the market( ver 9i). I

RE: Re[2]: http://www.wintercorp.com/vldb/2003_TopTen_Survey/TopT

2003-12-12 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
by definition, their product is a combination of software/hardware. Their hardware runs an NCR flavor of Unix, has specific disk farms, and has a specialized piece of hardware/software for the BY-NET(their version of the interconnect). you combine their nodes into cliques (4 nodes to a

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Rob Freeman's book is actually excellent. I wholeheartedly recommend it, not only because Robert is paying me commission but also because you have every hing in one place and you don't have to search endlessly for useful examples and explanations. Robert's very clear and to the point style of

automate backup and export

2003-12-12 Thread John
Do you know any script for doing export and backup of Oracle 9i R2 server?My oracle is on a SuSE linux.

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Joe Testa
Mladen I'll send you $10 payment fee via paypal :) joe Mladen Gogala wrote: Rob Freeman's book is actually excellent. I wholeheartedly recommend it, not only because Robert is paying me commission but also because you have every hing in one place and you don't have to search endlessly for

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Sami, While you are purchasing the reading material also look at the 101 series as excellent references. Oracle Performance tuning 101, Oracle dba 101, Oracle backup and recovery 101.There are a lot of excellent references on the market and a lot of authors participate on this list. You can

RE: for security patches - going to 9.2.0.4

2003-12-12 Thread Paula_Stankus
That is the case. I do have tablespaces that are locally managed - I did the migrate with compatible set to 8.1.7. I did startup the database. However, my system tablespace is dictionary managed - all others are not. The migration worked. I have large databases and have been using

Strange behavior continued...

2003-12-12 Thread Bellow, Bambi
More weirdity based on the situation from the last email... SQL insert into junk values ('Y'); 1 row created. SQL select a.*, b.* 2 from 3 ( select * from junk minus select * from junk2 ) a, 4 ( select * from junk2 minus select * from junk ) b; T T - - Y X SQL insert into junk2

Sorry... ended that last email early...

2003-12-12 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Sorry for the repost... I got all excited there... More weirdity based on the situation from the last email... SQL insert into junk values ('Y'); 1 row created. SQL select a.*, b.* 2 from 3 ( select * from junk minus select * from junk2 ) a, 4 ( select * from junk2

Misbehaving query

2003-12-12 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Hi! I have a query that I think is behaving oddly; and, it may just be that I'm blind and am doing something silly (*there's* a first!), or it may be environment specific, but, I'm thinkin it may just be a bug. I have filed a TAR with Oracle, and they keep sending workarounds, when I told them

Re: automate backup and export

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
The scripts depend on your set up and environment. Cold backup.. Shutdown database copy all datafile,controlfiles,.ora files, etc to a separate disk startup database Hot backup.. place the tablespace in backup mode copy the datafile to a different disk place the tablespace in normal mode ...

Re: Table recovery from RMAN backup

2003-12-12 Thread Michael Thomas
My Question: I just tried to locate the web site for Joe's scripts, and I got an error or something. Wasssup? My Contribution (xmas season and all...): http://www.secunia.com/internet_explorer_address_bar_spoofing_test Is it too early to wish merry xmas to all? Thanks in advance. Regards, Mike

Re: automate backup and export

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Yes. It's called RMAN. On 12/12/2003 02:04:46 PM, John wrote: Do you know any script for doing export and backup of Oracle 9i R2 server? My oracle is on a SuSE linux. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET:

Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Has anyone actually installed Oracle on Fedora? I don't want to be the first one. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San

RE: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
well, somebody has to be first. why not you? come-on - go out on a limb for once! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Has anyone actually installed Oracle on Fedora? I don't

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread eric king
What is Fedora??? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:19 PM Has anyone actually installed Oracle on Fedora? I don't want to be the first one. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread eric king
Again what is FedOra? Too lazy to run google at this time... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:29 PM well, somebody has to be first. why not you? come-on - go out on a limb for once! Tom Mercadante

RE: Strange behavior continued...

2003-12-12 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Strange behavior continued... bambi - not that I can provide any insight on your strange behavior, I mean the SQL:-) But this provided some thought on some chaos going on here on a nice Friday afternoon in Atlanta. thanks for the help:-) -Original Message- From: Bellow,

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
See RedHat.com... It is the open source for the linux started by RedHat Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/2003 3:29:40 PM What is Fedora??? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:19 PM Has anyone actually

RE: Misbehaving query

2003-12-12 Thread Carol Bristow
Junk minus junk2 results in no rows, and when you do the implied cartesian join between view a and view b, joining no rows with one row gives no rows. Makes sense to me. Carol Bristow DPRA Inc. 1300 N 17th St Suite 950 Rosslyn, VA 22209 Work: 703-841-8025 Fax: 703-524-9415 -Original

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Ron Rogers
Come on Mladen, Since when do you not want to be first? Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/2003 3:19:33 PM Has anyone actually installed Oracle on Fedora? I don't want to be the first one. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen

RE: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Jesse, Rich
But you weren't lazy enough to post to the list TWICE??? http://tinyurl.com/yzq3 Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:40 PM To:

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Bricklen Anderson
eric king wrote: Again what is FedOra? Too lazy to run google at this time... http://fedora.redhat.com/ http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7257 -- Bricklen Anderson PresiNET Systems http://www.PresiNET.com Demo: https://www.presinet.com/secure/login -- Please see the official ORACLE-L

RE: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Odland, Brad
REdhat freebee... -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Again what is FedOra? Too lazy to run google at this time... - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

RE: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Simpson, Ken
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of eric king Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Fedora (pink hat) Again what is FedOra? Too lazy to run google at this time... The

RE: Misbehaving query

2003-12-12 Thread Scott Canaan
That's what I was thinking, too. I tried it on 8.1.7.4 and it works the same way, as I expected. You would need an outer join to get something back. Scott Canaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (585) 475-7886 Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it. - Tom Lehrer.

RE: Misbehaving query

2003-12-12 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Thank you Carol! Bambi. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Junk minus junk2 results in no rows, and when you do the implied cartesian join between view a and view b, joining no rows with one row gives no rows. Makes

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread eric king
Thanks Ron. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 3:44 PM See RedHat.com... It is the open source for the linux started by RedHat Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/2003 3:29:40 PM What is Fedora??? -

Re: Misbehaving query

2003-12-12 Thread Vladimir Begun
Bellow, Bambi wrote: SQL select a.*, b.* 2 from 3 ( select * from junk minus select * from junk2 ) a, 4 ( select * from junk2 minus select * from junk ) b; no rows selected SELECT a.* , b.* FROM (SELECT dummy x FROM dual WHERE 1 = 2) a , (SELECT dummy x FROM dual) b WHERE b.x

Re: Misbehaving query

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
No problem. You are trying to create a cartesian product of the two queries. Now, what is a Cartesian product of the two sets, A and B? It is a set of all ordered pairs (a,b) where a is element of A and b is element of B. The result of your firs query is an ampty set: SQL select * from junk

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Daniel Hanks
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Mladen Gogala wrote: I haven't but I've got a machine up and running with Fedora (fedora.redhat.com for the person who asked previously) and would be willing to give an install a shot. Latest 9i I assume? Any particulars you'd like me to look for? Has anyone actually

RE: Misbehaving query

2003-12-12 Thread Bobak, Mark
Bambi, I don't think there's a bug here. Junk contains A,B,C. Junk2 contains A,B,C,X. Junk2 minus junk will yield X. Junk minus junk2 will yield 'no rows'. So, if you select from the cartesian join of the two inlines, and one of the inlines has no rows, then the output will have no rows. In

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Joe Frohne
Hi, I have attempted to install 9.2 on Fedora. If you follow the www.puschitz.com instructions for RHAS 3, it installs. I haven't created a new DB yet, but have mostly been looking at the OEM tools. Which, by the way, only partialy work. At least I haven't gotten them to fully work yet. The

Re: rebuilding indexes - sure to cause a ruckus

2003-12-12 Thread Denny Koovakattu
If it's from Oracle, I would believe it, i.e., I would believe somebody did actually say that ;) But it does not make it right. Now only if management knew/believed that. Some more from Oracle, - Oracle writes to one log member and then the other. So you need both log members for recovery.

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Nope. I'll try it myself this weekend (9.2, of course). On 12/12/2003 03:59:42 PM, Daniel Hanks wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Mladen Gogala wrote: I haven't but I've got a machine up and running with Fedora (fedora.redhat.com for the person who asked previously) and would be willing to give an

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Michael Thomas
If no one fesses up by tonight, I will spend 2 hours and do it myself. Quite a simple task. I will install the 9.2.0.4 Enterprise with all optional S/Q for the test. Does anyone have special requests? E.g. Number of disk drives? Amount of RAM? Database type (DW,OLTP,GENERAL,etc)? Character set?

RE: Strange behavior continued...

2003-12-12 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Title: RE: Strange behavior continued... Any time, Greg! :) Bambi. -Original Message-From: Loughmiller, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:39 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Strange behavior continued... bambi -

Re: Code Conversion from MSSQL into Oracle

2003-12-12 Thread Akshay Kumar
oracle provides a toolkit. - Original Message - From: VIVEK_SHARMA To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:14 AM Subject: RE: Code Conversion from MSSQL into Oracle Are there any TOOLs for converting Sample Code

Re: rebuilding indexes - sure to cause a ruckus

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Can we, please, change terminology and use the term log file instead of log member. I distinctly remember backup recovery class in NYC when a guy with a heavy accent popped the following question: Can I recover the database if I lose my member? It was the time after lunch while we

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Thanks, Michael. No requests, just let me know how did it go. Thanks! On 12/12/2003 04:19:26 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: If no one fesses up by tonight, I will spend 2 hours and do it myself. Quite a simple task. I will install the 9.2.0.4 Enterprise with all optional S/Q for the test. Does

RE: Performance tuning in complex environment

2003-12-12 Thread Avnish.Rastogi
I will try to get the output of v$system_event and will send it you guys. In the mean time I have more question.. I am reading Cary's 'Optimizing Oracle Performance Book'. I am half way thru and over looked rest of the chapters but didnt find an easy way to analyze thousands of lines trace

RE: for security patches - going to 9.2.0.4

2003-12-12 Thread Paul Drake
Paula, since you use the export utility - patch to 9.2.0.4. a full export will throw an error in 9.2.0.3, on W2K and on RH 8.0. regarding security, I haven't yet applied the 8.1.7.4.13 patchset (its not yet available) or the SSL-related issues in Oracle Security Alert #62. but the patchset

RE: for security patches - going to 9.2.0.4

2003-12-12 Thread Paula_Stankus
I was just wondering if setting compatible back to 8.1.7 for the CBO reasons was still necessary? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul DrakeSent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:49 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list

RE: for security patches - going to 9.2.0.4

2003-12-12 Thread Paul Drake
if you have compatible set to 8.1.7, I'll bet that optimizer features from 9.2.0 aren't available. you would have to decide if you want to use the 9.2 CBO or the 8.1.7 CBO. The only reason that I can think of that you'd want to use the 8.1.7 CBO is if your code ran well in 8.1.7 and some

RedHat Advanced Server v3.0, anyone?

2003-12-12 Thread Paul Drake
Has anyone kicked the tires on RH AS 3.0? There is a strong possibility that in a migration early next year, that a client wants to move off of MS w2k adv svr and onto either RH AS or SLES (they are an HP (compaq) shop). It seems like a bad idea to start them off on RH AS 2.1 now, when they likely

RE: Performance tuning in complex environment

2003-12-12 Thread Daniel Hanks
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get the output of v$system_event and will send it you guys. In the mean time I have more question.. I am reading Cary's 'Optimizing Oracle Performance Book'. I am half way thru and over looked rest of the chapters but didnt find

Re: Fedora (pink hat)

2003-12-12 Thread David Hau
I had installed 9.2 on Fedora and created a new DB. Everything has been working fine so far. oemapp console, sqlplus and dbca all work fine. Haven't tried other tools. As Joe mentioned, puschitz.com is the place to go for installation instructions, which include downloading a couple of

Re: Who are certified Oracle Masters?

2003-12-12 Thread Richard Foote
Hi Jeremiah, I find the mental image of the six of you holding up your shafts for a publicity shot profoundly disturbing... Cheers ;o) Richard - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 5:19 PM Apology accepted. We

Re: diff between FGRD and ARCH in v$archived_log.creator column

2003-12-12 Thread Vladimir Begun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is FGRD and ARCH in v$archived_log.creator column. I see something like below in my db. select recid,creator from v$archived_log Oracle9i Database Reference Release 2 (9.2) V$ARCHIVED_LOG CREATOR VARCHAR2(7) Creator of the archivelog: * ARCH - ARCH process *

Re: Oracle Data Guard

2003-12-12 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Comments in-line At 00:49 11-12-03 -0800, you wrote: But the last time I looked at it, you had to enable supplemental logging at the database level if you wanted to use logical standby. Two side effects - Yes, indeed, supplemental logging must be switched on. 1) As you said, you need a

FW: 170systems

2003-12-12 Thread Kirtish P Gaonkar
Hi Allan , Thanks for your quick reply. I tried mailing you but it rebounced saying unknow host . Please reply me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Also you can send me the docs on the same email id . Please zip and send so that none of the files get deleted because of firewall. Once again Thanks For the

Oracle's jdbc driver

2003-12-12 Thread bhabani s pradhan
Hi All How can I findout what is the version of the jdbc driver installed with oracle client install. Thanks and Regards B S Pradhan

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