RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan NetApp is in another class of devices labeled NAS for Network Attached Storage. Because its connection with your server runs over a network connection, the performance is very much dependent on the speed and configuration of the network connection. As has been explained to me, and I

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Zito
: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Ryan NetApp

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Goulet, Dick
://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Ryan NetApp is in another class

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Ron Thomas
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RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
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RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Matthew Zito
-220-3551 Phone: 212-358-8211 x 359 http://www.gridapp.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Matt

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Tanel Poder
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: max parallel query Matt, Question: What else do you have running on your

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-19 Thread Johnston, Tim
Hrrrmmthe on-topic-ness of this has strayed far from Oracle. My apologies. Not sure I agree with the last statement... I think it is on topic... Many of us DBA types are often involved in these kinds of discussions internally and the more informed we are the better off we are... It

Re: Re: wrapping packages

2003-09-19 Thread bhabani s pradhan
one caution: there is no unwrap cmd/exe Regards On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 Pete Finnigan wrote : Hi Research the wrap command, the binary is located in $ORACLE_HOME/bin and running it for example would be like this for instance: $ wrap iname=./test.sql

Re: Re: SQL help needed

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
You raise an interesting idea in my mind... How useful would it be for us if Oracle created an INFINITE_DUAL table - One where you could select as many rows as you wished. I guess it might be dangerous but it would at least be very efficient if Oracle coded it as a special table. Then you

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread rgaffuri
i know there are no magic formulas, but im hoping for something better than trial and error. i would assume that parallel query helps most when: 1. are doing work off of multiple mount points. 2. Have alot more LIOs to perform than PIOs(such as sorts). am i close on this? From: M Rafiq

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
If you want rules of thumb, then take CPU_COUNT+1 up to CPU_COUNT *2. I think LIO PIO ratio is irrelevant, the most important is whether you are able to construct optimal parallel execution plan, e.g. avoid excessive parallel slave messaging waiting. This is mostly design and SQL issue. The

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan
hmmm... when i run statspack during a big load. most of my waits are from redo log waits and read from a staging datafile. we have all of our datafiles on the same I/O mount. We are using a Network Appliance back end with asynch I/O. are you telling me that putting these files on seperate mount

RE: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan You are probably bottlenecking on the NetApp. Probably your network link to it. If you have some regular (a.k.a. direct attached) disk available, consider using it for your redo logs. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
If different mount point means different disk spindle group or different disk array, then of course, your performance will be improved, but if we talk about the same box, same number of disks just split to two or three, you probably won't get any performance increase. One disk spindle still

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan
i dont manage the netapp and am not a hardware person. could you explain a little better? Is netapp similiar to SAN? what is asynch I/O? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:24 PM Ryan You are probably

Re: Re: max parallel query

2003-09-18 Thread Tanel Poder
Netapp is NAS afaik, that means a bunch of disks used over fast network. SAN is a bunch of disks used over SCSI or Fibre interface (EMC Clariion for example). I tend to trust and appreciate SAN more than NAS, but NAS can be more cost effective in small-to medium environments. What I meant, is

RE: Re: SQL help needed

2003-09-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
I was thinking along the same lines minus the outer query which is totally unnecessary, but it is the beginning of my day here :-). SF - --- Original Message --- - From: Wolfgang Breitling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue,

RE: Re: SQL help needed

2003-09-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
- --- Original Message --- - From: Mark Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:59:41 I guess I should have added some criteria like: 1) user_objects must have enough rows in it to cover the range (if not

CORRECTION RE: RE: Re: SQL help needed

2003-09-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
create viex xdual as select rownum ID from sys.col$; Cannot have a column named rownum ... Going to be a difficult day. And we are only half-week. Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL

Re: CORRECTION RE: RE: Re: SQL help needed

2003-09-17 Thread Guido Konsolke
Hi Stephane, I commiserate with you 8-) Regards, Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] 17.09.2003 10.44 Uhr create viex xdual as select rownum ID from sys.col$; Cannot have a column named rownum ... Going to be a difficult day. And we are only half-week. Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole -- Please

Re: Re: SQL help needed

2003-09-17 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! This one is a very interesting consideration. The use of 'pivot' tables, as in this case, without being something you meet daily is fairly frequent (completing series like here is one usage, otherwise I commonly use them to generate test data). It should be some standard feature, a kind of

Re: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-17 Thread M Rafiq
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cc: Subject: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations Not really, most of DBA on this list did their OCP without any Oracle formal training. Use your experience on that version, study relevant material or available books/docs, do practice of STS test

Re: RE: RMAN error - can someone help ?

2003-09-17 Thread Prem Khanna J
Ruth, Set you ORACLE_SID which will be the target and try again. c: set ORACLE_SID=AUX92 AUX92 is the name of my auxiliary instance on Host A ( target host ). c: rman target [EMAIL PROTECTED] catalog [EMAIL PROTECTED] auxiliary sys trace=c:\tspitr.log where PE92 is the target on same Host A

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
: Subject: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations Not really, most of DBA on this list did their OCP without any Oracle formal training. Use your experience on that version, study relevant material or available books/docs, do practice of STS test

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-17 Thread Melanie Caffrey
it a requirement. Otherwise, who would ever take a course? -Original Message- From: M Rafiq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/16/2003 11:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cc: Subject: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide

Re: RE: wait event question

2003-09-17 Thread rgaffuri
you dont need to hawk your book... of course ill buy it. yeah. i think im screwed. I dont have mount points to multi-plex my redo logs. :( From: Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/17 Wed AM 11:09:50 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: wait

Re: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread rgaffuri
i explain planned it and it was much worse than not exists. my understanding is hash_aj is faster when the table in the sub-query returns results that are significantly less than the one in the outer table. ill try it, but i think exists is faster. we dont want to do an index scan here and my

RE: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan - One solution that is often suggested would be to copy the rows you wish to retain to another table, then truncate the table. Oracle is relatively slow at deletes compared to inserts. Would this method work for you? Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread Kevin Toepke
When tuning queries, ignore the fact that explain plan shows a cost. The optimizer finds the lowest cost it can. If you mess with hints you will almost certainly get a higher cost. I've tuned queries that ran for hours with a cost of less than 10 -- the tuned versions had costs in the

RE: RE: translate, replace...?

2003-09-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
Syntactically incorrect (one 'replace' too much). IMHO translate() is the one to use here. Probably a negligible performance benefit but I find a single function call easier to read than a function taking another function call as argument. The fewer characters the better (I type slowly and

RE: Re: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread Stephane Faroult
Roy, NOT EXISTS is to be avoided when it is the only criterion - the subquery is executed for each row in the outer query. The way the CBO behaves varies wildly between 8.1.7 and 9.x. Richard's suggestion is quite correct and a fairly safe way to get a 'right' behaviour with most versions

Re: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread rgaffuri
i tested the minus in the explain plan and the estimate was very large. dont i need a large sort_area_size for that? bitmap index on all columns right? not just one? From: Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/17 Wed PM 12:59:40 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Re: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread rgaffuri
16 million of the 18 million records in the staging table have delete records. how would indexing help there? wouldnt a full table scan be better? From: Mladen Gogala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/17 Wed PM 12:59:40 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread Mladen Gogala
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: tuning a massive delete i tested the minus in the explain plan and the estimate was very large. dont i need a large sort_area_size for that? bitmap index on all

Re: Re: Is Cary's new book shipping now?

2003-09-17 Thread fpayne
I got an email last night from bookpool that my copy of Cary's book had shipped. From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/17 Wed PM 02:14:40 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is Cary's new book shipping now? Tom has a NEW,

RE: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread Govindan K
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: RE: tuning a massive deleteRyan - One solution that is often suggested would be to copy the rows you wish to retain to another table, then truncate the table. Oracle is relatively slow at deletes compared to inserts. Would this method work for you? Dennis Williams DBA, 80

RE: RE: tuning a massive delete

2003-09-17 Thread rgaffuri
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: tuning a massive delete Well, large sort area size would certainly help, as well as the parallel hints. As for the bitmap index, I din't know what was the percentage. It probably wouldn't help much. -- Mladen

RE: Re: SQL help needed

2003-09-17 Thread Mark Richard
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Re: Re: how to do a variable in-list of numbers?

2003-09-16 Thread rgaffuri
i figured it out a while ago. thanks guys. From: Govindan K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/16 Tue AM 10:24:38 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to do a variable in-list of numbers? Ryan Will this link help you?. Let me know.

Re: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread rgaffuri
they are not outstanding. they are ok? They are also expensive. I have found the Coriolis books to be better than the Osborne books in quality. They dont have 9i ones. you can get the 8.0/8i ones for $9/each at maryland-merchant.com Im using those myself, then the docs. I didnt like the osborne

Re: RE: Embedded transactions

2003-09-16 Thread rgaffuri
if you need to 'rollback' everything, then you should make it one transaction. You can add savepoints and rollback to: if you want to limit it that way. commit means complete. You should not commit unless you are sure you may not want to rollback. why are you committing in the inner

Re: RE: Is Cary's new book shipping now?

2003-09-16 Thread rgaffuri
the big question is when will the .pdf be available for download on kazaa? (Im kidding and Im buying a copy). From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/16 Tue PM 01:44:35 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Is Cary's new book shipping now?

Re: RE: Embedded transactions

2003-09-16 Thread Kader Ben
Thanks guys for your inputs, I just want include a procedure (which include commit) into my package testing. Have nice a day, Kader --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you need to 'rollback' everything, then you should make it one transaction. You can add savepoints and rollback to: if you

RE: RE: Is Cary's new book shipping now?

2003-09-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Will there be an MP3 version, with Cary singing? -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE

RE: RE: Is Cary's new book shipping now?

2003-09-16 Thread Pete Sharman
] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: Is Cary's new book shipping now? the big question is when will the .pdf be available for download on kazaa? (Im kidding and Im buying a copy). From: Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Melanie Caffrey
One may as well get used to putting forth some extra expenditure when getting certified now. The publisher, Coriolis, went under. And now Oracle is requiring that you complete at least one of their prep courses (irrespective of whether you believe you need it or not) in order to become

Re: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Ryan
you can do the 8i cert and upgrade without paying for the course. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:49 PM One may as well get used to putting forth some extra expenditure when getting certified now.

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Melanie Caffrey
True. You can save yourself $115 if you do it this way. 8i cert + upgrade - $750 9i cert (with required class, using Self-Study CD-ROM) - $865 It's up to you ... -Original Message- Ryan Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L you can do the

Re: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Ryan
all you have to do is buy the self study CD? are you sure? I thought you had to get a class? which are atleast $1500 online? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:39 PM True. You can save yourself $115 if

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Melanie Caffrey
Well, if you take the Introduction to Oracle9i: SQL course. (BTW, I was wrong about the price differential - I was looking at the wrong CD - the price differential is actually $200, not $115, sorry about that) so that ups the original figure I wrote from $865 to $950. Still not bad, though,

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Craig Munday
Does anyone other than Oracle truely believe that a course is necessary if you can pass the exam? -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2003 8:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L One may as well get used to putting forth some extra expenditure when getting

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread M Rafiq
Not really, most of DBA on this list did their OCP without any Oracle formal training. Use your experience on that version, study relevant material or available books/docs, do practice of STS test questions and then you are pretty much ready for exam. I did my OCP from 7. to 9i without

RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Caffrey, Melanie
: Subject: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations Not really, most of DBA on this list did their OCP without any Oracle formal training. Use your experience on that version, study relevant material or available books/docs, do practice

Re: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations

2003-09-16 Thread Prem Khanna J
? -Original Message- From: M Rafiq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/16/2003 11:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Cc: Subject: RE: RE: Oracle Press OCP exam guide frustrations Not really, most of DBA on this list did

OT Re: RE: What is a large database?

2003-09-12 Thread Guido Konsolke
Hi Mladen, please excuse me. Since I try to improve my knowledge about the English: what do youmean with muave? Some kind of wood? Please enlighten me. Greetings, Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.09.2003 20.49 Uhr And the database must be muave. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see

RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?

2003-09-12 Thread Mark Leith
LOL, Mauve is a shade of the colour Purple. And of course, everybody knows that purple databases run faster! ;) Personally, I've always preferred Electric Blue databases, funky, fast, and FAR easier to manage! -Original Message- Guido Konsolke Sent: 12 September 2003 08:54 To:

RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?

2003-09-12 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Hmm, applied Feng Shui for Oracle Performance. For optimum throughput storage should be coloured red and white in alternating bands of colour. It's called disk-striping. Badummp-k !! I'll get me coat ... and back on topic. Mike -Original Message- Sent: 12 September 2003 11:14

RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?

2003-09-12 Thread Jesse, Rich
USA -Original Message- From: Guido Konsolke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: OT Re: RE: What is a large database? Hi Mladen, please excuse me. Since I try to improve my knowledge about

Re: Re: archive old data

2003-09-12 Thread rgaffuri
fastest and easiest way to do it is the following. create another tablespace with another user. Set it to nologging. alter session enable parallel dml; create table /*+ parallel(max#,s) */ as select * from old_tablespace.table where -- your filter. export this new tablespace so you have a

RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?

2003-09-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Selling -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse, Rich Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 12:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database? It's

Re: RE: Bus Error (Urgent)

2003-09-12 Thread bhabani s pradhan
both client and server on Sun OS 5.8 ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_SID in .profile tnsnames.ora TRADEDB1 = (DESCRIPTION = (ADDRESS_LIST = (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = trade-db1)(PORT = 1521)) ) (CONNECT_DATA = (SERVICE_NAME = TRADEDB1) ) )

Re: RE: Bus Error (Urgent)

2003-09-12 Thread bhabani s pradhan
While running tnsping and sqlplus i am getting this: WW_WS tnsping TRADEDB1 Bus Error (core dumped) WW_WS sqlplus rubix/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bus Error (core dumped) WW_WS /usr/sbin/ping 10.10.8.44 10.10.8.44 is alive WW_WS echo $ORACLE_HOME /export/home/oracle/product/8.1.7 WW_WS echo $ORACLE_SID

Re: Re: Bus Error (Urgent)

2003-09-12 Thread bhabani s pradhan
listener is running okay it has refused some connections: WW_DB lsnrctl stat LSNRCTL for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on 12-SEP-2003 14:49:01 (c) Copyright 1998 Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved. Connecting to (DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=IPC)(KEY=EXTPROC))) STATUS of

RE: RE: RE: RE: Bus Error (Urgent)

2003-09-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Bus Error (Urgent) its a 2gig memory shmsys:shminfo_shmmax=4294967295 shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1 parameter processes = 150 and v$process returns 25 --- On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 Mladen Gogala wrote : You don't have enough

Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: Bus Error (Urgent)

2003-09-12 Thread bhabani s pradhan
. The investigation should continue on the server. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- From: bhabani s pradhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 5:46 PM To: Mladen Gogala Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Bus Error (Urgent) its a 2gig memory

Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: Bus Error (Urgent)

2003-09-12 Thread Mladen Gogala
:46 PM To: Mladen Gogala Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Bus Error (Urgent) its a 2gig memory shmsys:shminfo_shmmax=4294967295 shmsys:shminfo_shmmin=1 parameter processes = 150 and v$process returns 25 --- On Sat, 13 Sep 2003

Re: RE: Metalink doc 52576.1 ?

2003-09-12 Thread Prem Khanna J
Faan, the Doc. below has the reference of 52576.1. -- Note:1069019.6 Subject: HOW TO GET A CLEAN RMAN CATALOG so, i was looking for that too. i read the doc. 1058332.6 already. You are the only one who responded to my question. Thanx Faan. Jp. 13-9-2003 04:49:27, Faan DeSwardt [EMAIL

RE: Re: how can I see which database I am logged into without

2003-09-11 Thread Stephane Faroult
Didn't know this one ! Diem non perdidi. But it seems to be the same as select global_name from global_name (on the database on which I have tried, both are suffixed with a .WORLD); for what I remember from my numerous databases cloning, the global name is something which is distinct from the

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Oracle DBA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nuno Pinto do Souto Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Goulet, Dick
Pinto do Souto Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like that at the bottom of this article: http://www.computerworld.com/news/2003

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Mladen Gogala
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door I believe Mr. Ellison is responding to a lot of market

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Stephane Paquette
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door I believe Mr. Ellison is responding to a lot of market pressure, and failing

Re: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Abey Joseph
That same mentality applies to organizations with 100-200 users! After the latest meeting with the Oracle rep, damagement is seriously considering alternate database systems. Abey. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door I believe Mr. Ellison is responding to a lot of market pressure, and failing DB sales. I know it would be a relief here to see this inplace soon, but as always the DEVIL is in the details. Dick Goulet

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Mladen Gogala
: RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door I used to work for a large but non profit organisation (.org) and we were using Oracle, the sales rep never send us Christmas card for sure Stephane -Original Message- Mladen Gogala Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:30 AM

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Stephane Paquette
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goulet, Dick Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door I believe Mr. Ellison is responding to a lot of market pressure, and failing

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Stephane Paquette
Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephane Paquette Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door I used to work for a large

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-11 Thread Nelson Flores
: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2003 12:54 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door Speaking of non-profit organisations, what is Oracle's policy on that? Do they sell Oracle software to non

RE: RE: Database Link

2003-09-10 Thread Stephane Faroult
I have written in the past a small C program which does the same as oerr only faster, especially for 'high' error numbers (using binary searches on the files); it is written for Unix but can easily be adapted to Windows - for those who don't have perl installed ...

Re: RE: overloading and = comparisons in SQL

2003-09-10 Thread rgaffuri
how many of those trace events have people written papers on? other than hotsos, where can i find some articles on them? From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/10 Wed AM 08:12:23 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: overloading and =

Re: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread rgaffuri
is SE alot more affordable than EE? CAn you un-bundle Oracle software and just buy the pieces you want to use or do you always have to buy the whole bundle? what about 9iAS? do you have to buy the whole bundle or can you just get pieces? From: Hitchman, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Ryan Yes, MUCH more affordable, assuming you can live with the limitations. Check Oracle Store for current prices. I understand the 4-CPU limit still remains. There aren't too many unbundling options. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread Mladen Gogala
] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door is SE alot more affordable than EE? CAn you un-bundle Oracle software and just buy the pieces you want to use or do you always have to buy the whole bundle

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread rgaffuri
how restrictive are db2 and sql server on bundling licenses? and CPU limitations? From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/10 Wed AM 10:29:25 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door Ryan Yes, MUCH more

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door is SE alot more affordable than EE? CAn you un-bundle Oracle software and just buy the pieces you want to use or do you always have to buy the whole bundle

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread Goulet, Dick
recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door is SE alot more affordable than EE? CAn you un-bundle Oracle software and just buy the pieces you want to use or do you always have to buy the whole bundle? what about 9iAS? do you have to buy the whole bundle or can you

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door is SE alot more affordable than EE? CAn you un-bundle Oracle software and just buy the pieces you want to use or do you always have to buy the whole bundle? what about 9iAS? do you have to buy the whole

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread Stephane Paquette
with 9iAS. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door is SE alot more

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
enough to have to deal with 9iAS. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: DB2 has a foot

RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread Stephane Paquette
: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door is SE alot more affordable than EE? CAn you un-bundle Oracle software and just buy the pieces you want to use or do you always have to buy the whole bundle? what about

Re: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread Nuno Pinto do Souto
Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like that at the bottom of this article: http://www.computerworld.com/news/2003/story/0,11280,84773,00.html Counting processors is very hard. It's very hard to count users I thought that's what count(*) was invented for? Larry can

RE: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-10 Thread Mladen Gogala
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: RE: RE: DB2 has a foot in the door Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something like that at the bottom of this article: http://www.computerworld.com/news/2003/story/0,11280,84773,00.html Counting processors is very

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-09 Thread Mark Leith
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam how many ocms are there world wide? Note

Re: RE: 10g

2003-09-09 Thread rgaffuri
there are some semi-technical articles on otn about 10g. Im less than impressed with the pl/sql enhancements. anyone look at the HTML DB stuff? is that considerably better than the htp package or pl/sql server pages? From: Wolfgang Breitling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/09 Tue AM

RE: Re: test

2003-09-08 Thread Rajesh Dayal
I am really happy to see such responses for my test !! BTW, I was just checking whether I have successfully been un-subscribed for my old mail-id and subscribed with new one. But disappointed to see that un-subscription mail reached much later than test Mail (which actually I sent before).

Re: Re: DB2 has a foot in the door

2003-09-08 Thread rgaffuri
oracle is still the only one out there that has multi-version read consistency? I thought postre-gre sql had it? anyone else? everyone has row level locking right? From: Mogens Nørgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/08 Mon AM 01:09:25 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL

Re: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread rgaffuri
what do they have you do? you set up a database where everything that can go wrong does go wrong with no access to documentation right? From: Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/09/08 Mon AM 09:44:27 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread Pete Sharman
Not quite. Have a look at http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/objectives/index.html?dba9 iocm_practobj.html. And you have access to the doc, but can't use the search functionality (that requires network access and every box is standalone so you can't log into another student's

RE: Re: Oracle Masters exam

2003-09-08 Thread T Nguyen
testing.. -Original Message- Pete Sharman Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Not quite. Have a look at http://www.oracle.com/education/certification/objectives/index.html?dba9 iocm_practobj.html. And you have access to the doc, but

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