Title: RE: Sizing a new server
Yep,
the "money no object" lasted for a while, then the fab closed down
-Original Message-From: Kimberly Smith
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RE: Sizing a
Title: RE: Sizing a new server - the Alpha Chip
Hi Bruce,
The list has done a good job of giving me warm fuzzies about the alpha. I did read through those articles describing the demise of the alpha chip. However, with the size and power of the 8400 I think we'll be OK on this server
Title: RE: Sizing a new server - the Alpha Chip
Only
the support issue would bother me. From two standpoints: 1) Compaq and 2)
Oracle.
Compaq
has made many promises with it's Digital acquisition, but has not really lived
up to them. TheOpenVMS developmentand alpha development has
greatly
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:16 AM
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Subject: RE: Sizing a new server - the Alpha Chip
Hi Bruce,
The list has done a good job of giving me warm fuzzies about the alpha. I
did read through those articles describing the demise
Title: RE: Sizing a new server
By the
sounds of it, Kimberley was in a very similar situation to me when I was working
for a semi-conductor manufacturing company afew years ago (the worst job I ever
had).Basically money was no object and anything was feasible as long as the fab
kept running
Title: RE: Sizing a new server
Bruce,
It's going to be Unix, tru64. Unfortunately I will be stuck with some old hardware to start with - an Alpha, 8400, I believe maxes out at 8 cpu's, along with two old disk farms (compaq esa10k). I'm slapping together a bunch of old pieces of hardware
Title: RE: Sizing a new server
Hi
Lisa,
That
doesn't sound too bad, the 8400 is a solid piece of kit. 64-bit, up to 14 CPUs
and 28G of memory. They have seriously good I/O bandwidth. Needs a three-phase
power supply and weighs, literally, half a tonne. And best of all, you can run
VMS
Title: RE: Sizing a new server
Actually, it really depends on the industry at the moment as to whether
or not money is no object. Currently money is a huge issue. The
semi-conductor fabs are not doing so hot right now (at least not the memory
producing ones). Fabs are all pretty much
Hi Lisa,
I also have good feelings for VMS so don't see the problem with an Alpha.
As for the disk farms, the RAID 7000 gave very good performance on VMS so 2
of the es10K should be excellent.
You and your company are of course aware that Compaq is planning to stop
Alpha chip development in 2-3
Title: Sizing a new server
Hi
Lisa,
Pick
your favorite vendor and ask 'em if they've got anything like
this:
http://www.compaq.com/solutions/enterprise/database-oracle-sizer-download.html
If
it's going to be a big purchase, most vendors will send someone over to take a
look too. I
Title: Sizing a new server
Get
the biggest, kick ass server they will let you buy. If your site is
anything like mine they just keep asking for more and more databases. So
no matter what I have now I know its not enough. I am really happy with
the nice new N-class HP cluster I have sitting
Title: RE: Sizing a new server
That's the Guy Hammond I remember from a couple of years ago. Very useful posts with a bit of humor attached :)
Thanks Guy!
Lisa
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:21 PM
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Title: RE: Sizing a new server
Thanks Kimberly,
I wish it was that way. I have to justify my request with hard numbers or they are going to laugh at me when I say, Because that's what I want. :) They don't yet know how I'd react to that, it would be a knee-jerk type of reaction involving
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Subject: RE: Sizing a new server
Thanks Kimberly,
I wish it was that way. I have to justify my request with hard numbers or
they are going to laugh at me when I say, Because that's what I want.
:) They don't yet know how I'd react to that, it would
you have some real hardware
and true HA. I wish I
did
Lisa
-Original Message-
From: Kimberly Smith
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:51 PM
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Subject:RE: Sizing a new server
Get the biggest
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From: Kimberly Smith
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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:51 PM
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Subject:RE: Sizing a new server
Get the biggest, kick ass server they will let you
buy. If your site is
anything like mine they just keep asking
Title: RE: Sizing a new server
Yea no Sh*t! I am beginning to miss the E10K I used to work on... now I have to talk fast and push buttons to even get a little 1-cpu dec as1000 box outfitted with hardware and software. Boy have times changed sigh
No, I'm almost going to suggest I go
Lisa,
Some may laugh at the question but what OS - NT, Unix, VMS or ?
Regards,
Bruce Reardon
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Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2001 4:36
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Thanks Kimberly,
I wish it was that way. I have to justify my request with hard numbers or
they
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