[OGD] INRENA and CITES

2005-04-14 Thread Peter\(Can\) Croezen
  Michael who said:   >Not intending to dispute your assertion, I would be interested in having you expand on the>reasons for the following statements by you that the INRENA agreements are illegal under CITES>and are not legally enforceable:>"If what Jerry stated is true, and if it was indee

Re: [OGD] Phragmipedium kovachii illegal plants

2005-04-14 Thread Steve Topletz
Peter, I don't think dirt under the fingernails of those who have been hiking in the wilderness of Peru's jungle is much evidence of anything except being outside. Anyway, it probably doesn't matter much, now that Pk is going to be legal and available everywhere pretty soon. STz _

[OGD] Phragmipedium kovachii illegal plants

2005-04-14 Thread Peter\(Can\) Croezen
To Paul who asked  about    >Phragmipedium kovachii plants smuggled out of Peru to Germany via the USA; >what happened to them.   I have no knowledge of this route Paul.   Two  habitats were completely stripped of an estimated 2500  Phragmipedium kovachii plants plus all the seedlings. Only

[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 7, Issue 201

2005-04-14 Thread BCPRESS
Jerry erects a formidable barrier for reporting on the status of Manuel Arias in suggesting that, "... the true story of what really happened with his arrest has not been properly represented in this forum."  Furthermore, "...perhaps no one ever will," since "various authors perceived id

[OGD] Award for Jay's Acriopsis

2005-04-14 Thread Peter O'Byrne
The story so far ... Jay Pfahl's Acriopsis was awarded a CBR/AOS. The inflorescence was very undersized.   Andy Easton commented:   That statement is rather patronising ... there is no way that this occasion was a "first sighting" because the plant has been around for ages and is well-documente

[OGD] Phototropic or negative gravitropic roots

2005-04-14 Thread PainterArt
Based on what Charles and AJ pointed out and a little more reading, “catch roots” would be better called phototropic or negative gravitropic roots. The reason phototropic roots would be correct is that epiphytic orchid roots photosynthesis. My hypothesis is that in upward aerial roots auxin i

Re: [OGD] Inrena, Arias, kovachii

2005-04-14 Thread Steve Topletz
Yes, actually, I do have a better solution. But it is not a solution for this specific problem, but all of the plant problems. A forum will be hosted on it to discuss and revise this plan, shortly. It goes something like this: PART I Outlining the problem Fantastic and desirable species exist i

[OGD] Manolo Arias

2005-04-14 Thread e.muehlbauer
I was asked by a friend to post a note here about Manolo Arias...Manolo is the correct spelling...and he has taken over the business due to his father's ill health. My question...is his company the only one allowed by INRENA to sell P. kovachii? Take care, Eric Muehlbauer in Queens NY...a cool, but

[OGD] Inrena, Arias, kovachii

2005-04-14 Thread Orchids Limited
Inrena did indeed make me sign a two year agreement. Before I went to Peru I checked with my lawyer to see what the legalities were being that I am in the United States. I was told that any contract can be enforced as it is an agreement between the parties involved. I thought about it and at fir

[OGD] orchid epigenetics?

2005-04-14 Thread Nina Rach
Does anyone on this list happen to be in the field of orchid epigenetics?   There's a new book out by Blackwell on "PLANT EPIGENETICS," by Peter Meyer . It seems to me that this sort of research would wreak havoc with our judging systems. "Epigenetic modifications are stable but potentially revers

Re: [OGD] Re kovachii flasks

2005-04-14 Thread Paul J. Johnson
This matter is a bit out of my main interest areas, but it is a telling story on the vanity of hominids; thus laughable if it was not so sad. My understanding is that there are a least two possessors of Phrag. kovachii flasks/seedlings in the U.S., Jerry Fischer and Chuck Acker, and that they a

[OGD] Orchid Recovery Program in the Everglades

2005-04-14 Thread viateur . boutot
"northern part of the Fakahatchee Strand, the largest cypress strand in Big Cypress Swamp. ... A lot of changes are taking place there, including the establishment of an orchid recovery project ... Scott Stewart ... has been an integral part of the Orchid Recovery Program since 2002... the criti

[OGD] Jay's Acriopsis.

2005-04-14 Thread Andy Easton
Title: Jay's Acriopsis. The AOS judges, in their wisdom, gave the plant a CBR for the very reason that it was a first sighting, not that they considered it a mature specimen! That's what a CBR or a CHM is usually for and it gets the plant recorded and also, as an integral component of the awa

[OGD] IRENA Illegal Document

2005-04-14 Thread Michael A. Corn
Peter- Not intending to dispute your assertion, I would be interested in having you expand on the reasons for the following statements by you that the INRENA agreements are illegal under CITES and are not legally enforceable: "If what Jerry stated is true, and if it was indeed INRENA who made h

[OGD] beautiful little orchid is Yadon's rein orchid

2005-04-14 Thread viateur . boutot
see "Carmel group sues over Pebble Beach project / Environmentalists cite plans' impact on endangered species " source : http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/local/11391979.htm *** Yadon's rein orchid = Piperia yadonii Rand. Morgan & Ackerman [Platanthera yadonii (Rand

[OGD] growing North American species

2005-04-14 Thread viateur . boutot
From a question/answer, in the New York Times : "Arethusa bulbosa. ... The best place to find these beautiful little flowers is at the sunny margins of floating sphagnum bogs. And that is where they should remain. Although dragon's mouth orchids, a k a swamp pinks, are not yet on the federal end

[OGD] "a beautiful little orchid " / which species ?

2005-04-14 Thread viateur . boutot
"CARMEL, California - An environmental group has filed a lawsuit against the Monterey County Board of Supervisors for approving a development in the Del Monte Forest. The Pebble Beach Co. got approval from the supervisors to build a new golf course, additional guest rooms and employee housing.

[OGD] follow up,

2005-04-14 Thread Peter\(Can\) Croezen
Heather who said:> In other words, will it be 2 years before we see seedlings offered >for sale in US or not?   Whoever purchased Pk flasks from Manola Arias can sell the seedlings right away, to anyone in his or her country.   Forget that  you signed a ridiculous "2 years no selling" docum

[OGD] Jay's Acriopsis

2005-04-14 Thread Peter O'Byrne
Jay,   all Acriopsis tend to drop their leaves in a hurry when they don't like the conditions. It sounds like your A. indica is behaving "normally" and you've been lucky with your A. liliiflolia clone.   How come the AOS awarded a plant with just one under-sized inflorescence ? Don't they know what

[OGD] The two year agreement, should not be endorsed by INRENA

2005-04-14 Thread Peter\(Can\) Croezen
>I don't understand this kovachii 2 year agreement.  Is this just >between Jerry and INRENA or between anyone and INRENA? In >other words, will it be 2 years before we see seedlings offered for sale >in US or not? Manola Arias was selling Phragmipedium flasks, at the WOC in Dijon France, th

[OGD] Comparettia macroplectron

2005-04-14 Thread Cesar Fernandez
Dear Viateur: You was right with your appreciation. It is only endemic to Colombia. There is not any other registration or report in other country. Saludos, César Fernández Avenida España Urbanización Campo Alegre Nº 0-229 San Cristóbal, Estado Táchira- Venezuela Cell: 0414-706.6509 Phone: 011-5

[OGD] There ought not to be any confusion, CITES cleared it up!

2005-04-14 Thread Peter\(Can\) Croezen
    >Peter Croezen's remarks on legal flasks left me so confused :>In Singapore, the local authorities insists on CITES II certs together with >Phyto when it comes to importing Appendix I flasks e.g. slipper orchids. >Their belief is that when flasked up, CITES I will be down graded to CITES

[OGD] scan needed / Comparettia macroplectron

2005-04-14 Thread viateur . boutot
Do you have the following issue of Orchidee (?): I need a scan of these pages : Bockemuhl, L. / Senghas K. 1986 Comparettia macroplectron Rchb. f. & Triana 1878, Orchidee, 37(5): centre page pull out (2p.) Thanks in advance for your collaboration. *** Regards, Viateur __

[OGD] IOSPE

2005-04-14 Thread Shirlee McDaniels
By the way IOSPE [www.orchidspecies.com] now has an average unique vistor total of 544 with a record of 1126. I guess the AOS plugs are helping add tothe user base. Thanks all and happy growing!! Jay Pfahl Jay, thank you for all of the amazing hours you put into your invaluable sight.  Sh