Re: [OGD] Fossil Orchids - goodyera

2007-09-02 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Charles, Microchilus is a genus present in almost all Latin American countries, I believe only Chile doesn't have any. It is exclusively neotropical and we have 10 species in Brazil. It has been accepted lately and revised in a recent work by Ormerod. All species were subordinated to

Re: [OGD] 2 Laelias from Brazil

2007-08-30 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Kenneth, The smaller plant sure looks like Hadrolaelia dayana. Can the other one be a hybrid of H. dayana and H. praestans or H. pumila? Do the plants look the same? The photo does not show in detail the keels of the larger flower. Dalton Kenneth Bruyninckx escreveu: Hello all,

Re: [OGD] Lookig For Photos

2007-08-22 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Jerry Oncidium Imperatoris-maximiliani watercolor in Pabsts is just a drawing of what might be the looking of Reichenbach's description. Pabst never saw that plant. Apparently description was based on reports of color and not in a living plant. Last year Campacci saw the exsicata in Wien and

Re: [OGD] Encyclia

2007-08-16 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
The photos are on-line http://www.orchidstudium.com/encyclia.html Dalton Dalton Holland Baptista escreveu: Last September I went to Jaboticabal Orchid Show in São Paulo State. There was an small Encyclia that I had never seen before. I wondered if it was Encyclia marxiana, a plant

[OGD] Encyclia

2007-08-16 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Last September I went to Jaboticabal Orchid Show in São Paulo State. There was an small Encyclia that I had never seen before. I wondered if it was Encyclia marxiana, a plant that Campacci described few years ago and is another one I have never seen, although it seemed different, smaller and

Re: [OGD] pleurothallid identification request

2006-11-18 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Brian This species has gone through 5 name changes since 1970, pic the one you like better: Pleurothallis sarracenia Luer, Monogr. Syst. Bot. Missouri Bot. Gard. 20: 73 (1986).

Re: [OGD] Brizilian seller

2006-11-18 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Jerry, I know they are quite active. Sorry for asking but have you tried from their website? http://www.bvorchids.com.br/ptbr/principal/index.asp Case you have, let me know and I'll try to get another E-mail that works. Dalton At 15:08 17/11/2006, you wrote: Hi All,

Re: [OGD] Kew Checklist

2006-10-19 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Iris, At the time of Barbosa Rodriges, the spelling of Minas Gerais, was Minas Geraes. Brazilian Portuguese was revised in 1943 and many spellings changed at the time. Among many other changes ph, y and ll were removed from Portuguese then. There are many species also called geraensis what

Re: [OGD] This is Strange

2006-10-18 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Icones, Last two years I have sent circa 200 corrections on orchids of Brazil to Rafäel Govaerts and he was quick to answer and accept or ask for more info about them. I have revised most of Brazilian species. Just Brassavola, Pleurothallidiinae, terrestrial and few othes were left out

Re: [OGD] This is Strange

2006-10-18 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Icones, About all suggestions of changes I made to Kew were accepted, actually I don't memeber one that's has not. Many of them have a note there under accepted by and not accepted by but most were accepted straight away and don't even have these kind of notes. They were things greatly

Re: [OGD] Taxonomic SOS

2006-10-13 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Iris, Despite Kew site cites it as a syn. of B tuberculata, we believe B, ceboletta is a good species. It probably is the small one you have there. It has been also called as B. bahiensis and B. reginae sometimes. This species comes mostly from Bahia, Northeast of Brazil. Pseudobulbs are

Re: [OGD] unknown Dendrobium species

2006-07-13 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
I guess this Dendrobium might be Dendrobium (Grastidium) igneum. Dalton At 10:04 13/7/2006, you wrote: Dear all, in the 4/2006 issue of Orchideeen, the magazine of the Dutch Orchid Society, the Librarian Mr. Ton Klaassen asked for help to identify an unkown Dendobium species from Papua New

[OGD] Identify

2006-06-30 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
I have placed on-line a photo of an Oncidium species I have blooming here. http://www.orchidstudium.com/identify.html Any help to identify it is welcomed. Thanks, Dalton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com

[OGD] Even more sad news for the orchid world...

2006-06-21 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
It's with great sadness we want to let you know that on Thursday evening, Michel Frey passed away quietly in Brittany, surrounded by his family. He lived his life until the end with great intensity and passion and leaves us filled with pain but also peace for he achieved what he wanted. Frey

Re: [OGD] Expert on Taxonomy? Epidendrum cfr. porpax

2006-05-26 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Icones, Further than what you said, when there are conflicting publications regarding the correct status of one species... doubts wether they are synonyms or not... now they are placing these doubts there also, like accepteb by and not accepted by Regarding Brazilian species, I thing

[OGD] Martius' Flora Brasiliensis

2006-04-15 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Some time ago, MBG (Missouri Botanical Garden) and the Universidade de Campinas, started to place online the whole 15 volumes of Martius Flora Brasiliensis. Although the collection is not only about orchids, there are hundreds of them there, a large number of Cogniaux publications. Illustrations

Re: [OGD] 70 species lost ? / Indonesia

2006-04-04 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Viateur, We estimate there are about only 2700-2800 orchid species in Brazil. Dalton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com

Re: [OGD] Fraud and a Coward Troublemaker

2006-04-03 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Guido, Printed copies have already been distributed. Dalton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com

Re: [OGD] Fraud and a Coward Troublemaker

2006-04-03 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Guido, Regarding the publication date it shows February-2006, but the controversy goes on. The postage date does not clearyfy as it has been posted to me only after I requested it on 28 of March. Dalton At 10:10 3/4/2006, you wrote: Guido, Printed copies have already been distributed.

Re: [OGD] Re : Epidendrum

2006-03-05 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Mike, we do consider them as syns. here in Brazil, thus the name to be used is Epid. cristatum as it is older. BTW mine is blooming now. Cheers, Dalton At 11:19 5/3/2006, you wrote: Hi All, Can somebody clarify something for me please. I have a plant (flowering now) which was given to me a

Re: [OGD] Stelis

2006-02-24 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Well, Guido, it is a STELIS! here in Brazil we cannot say anything even after it has bloomed LOL Just as a curiosity, Pabst shows 66 Stelis species in Brazil, divided in 2 groups. As most of the species look the same, and also vary a lot, it is really hard to identify them. I myself have not

[OGD] Brazilian Oncidium

2006-02-13 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Lately a number of changes based on phylogeny were made in Oncidium. Despite phylogeny is quite important we believe changes can not be fully accepted regardless of morphology, therefore an article proposing six new genera to Brazilian species has just been released trying to accomodate both

Re: [OGD] Encyclia identification

2005-08-21 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Nick, I think your plant is E alboxanthina indeed. BTW mine is about to bloom too, maybe next month. E. alboxanthina (plant) is one of the largest if not the largest Brazilian Encyclia. Pseudobulbos of mine are about 8 tall, and the inflorescence is about 1 meter. On the other hand frowers are

Re: [OGD] Science fiction or fantasy ?

2005-08-20 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Peter, You forgot a very important category of photos we get: the non blooming ones. I am sure Daisy will find a way of managing that too. I guess these cell phones might come with a needle that we could stick it into the plant thus enabling us to get whatever's genoma and phylogeny in

Re: [OGD] Orchids in art / Margaret Mee / Pittsburgh

2005-07-20 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Margaret Mee was also responsible for half of the watercolors on Orchidaceae Brasilienses, the last compreensive book about Brazilian orchids, that has been published in 77-78, writen by Pabst Dungs. Dalton - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: orchids@orchidguide.com

[OGD] To Patricia Harding

2005-07-20 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
I'm sorry for using this list for that but want to let you know that your E-mail server is returning my e-mails again. Do something Patricia!!! Dalton Well, as I already have posted a message anyway, here are the info you requested: rostelado has nothinting to do with rosto=face but it

Re: [OGD] Margaret Mee / orchid illustrator

2005-07-20 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Well, another trivia about Margaret Mee: There is a Catasetum meeae, that Pabst described and named after her. Dalton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com

Re: [OGD] Dockrillia transfers

2005-07-02 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Thank you all that answered my question about D. lichenastrum and D. toressae. Dalton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) orchids@orchidguide.com http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com

Re: [OGD] Brieger

2005-07-02 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Yes, Guido, That is quite exact. In Brazil, Brieguer was in charge of the genetic dept., and the nursery of ESALQ, that is the agricultural college of Universidade de São Paulo, here in Piracicaba, where I live, about 150 kms out of São Paulo. He did a remarcable job here and put together a

Re: [OGD] Paphiopedilum roots - Dockrillia again

2005-06-30 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Wow, Steve, taxonomic issues and phylogeny are much more interesting than Paph roots morphology! You will have to excuse me on this one but I still have one question about two species of Dockrillia to clearify, sorry. We generally accepted Dockrilla in Brazil, but I see there is a doubt

Re: [OGD] Onc. wittii / natural hybrids

2005-06-23 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Guido, Of course you have exceptions to the rule ... but then, if a natural hybrid becomes a population, and a stable one at that, don't we have a new species ?? This is a question we do ourselves all the time. When you can start calling a very ancient natural hybrid a species?! I see

[OGD] Oncidium stacyi and natural hybids

2005-06-22 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
I don't know about O.stacyi for it is not a Brazilian species, but from what I see regarding Brazilian natural hybrids, (which I am not particularly interestd in), we have maybe 200 of them described, most to Cattleya and Laelia, some to Catasetum, some to Oncidium, and few other scattered.

Re:[OGD] Re: Onc. stacyi

2005-06-21 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Iris, If I am not mistaken, the other guy was Moreno, who ended having the much less showy Oncidium (Lophiaris-Trichocentrum)morenoi after him,but on the other hand he got onestill valid. That is funny isn't it? Dalton ___ the OrchidGuide Digest

Re: [OGD] Re: RHS Database - Encyclia edithiana

2005-06-15 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Iris, During decades we grew an Encyclia species horticulturally know to all in Brazil as Encyclia maderoi. According to Lou Menezes this species was called as such because it growson the banks of Rio Madeira on Brazilian Amazonia, very far from the real E maderoi, thus she described

Re: [OGD] Grower Friendly Name

2005-06-11 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
LOL, Guido That depends on where you live, for instance Schluckebieria is very hard on us Brazilians, but Laelia is quite friendly. On the other hand Oncidium itapetingensis or Encyclia yauaperiensis might be hard for your. Let's place a new rule, no new name longer than 5 leters, all based

Re: [OGD] Bulbophyllum vittatum

2005-06-08 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Peter, I don't have they faintest idea of what B. vittatum from Java is, but I always regard Kew checklist as just extra info (I am sure you do too) for we, that live closer to the species habitats, have many more opportunities to see and know the species and frequently can have

Re: [OGD] The Club

2005-06-07 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Guido and Andy, I am getting confused now! Is it necessary to have the acquiescence of any British organization to classify our orchids? Is there any sort of self stablished tribunal that decides what is correct or not on orchid taxonomy now? Is the old concept of free will and

Re: [OGD] Bulbophyllum vittatum

2005-06-07 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Ana Fischer asked: Can somebody help me to find a photo and the culture for Bulbophyllum vittatum. Peter O'Byrne said: Ana, that name has been used for two different species. You've probably got the American species, Bulbophyllum vittatum Rchb.f. Warm, which was first collected in Minas

[OGD] Phyogeny of Oncidium

2005-05-28 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Does anyone know if the miniature Brasilian Oncidium hians, and O. edwalli, have been tested regarding their placement on Ondidiinae clade yet? The thing is today they are regarded as belonging to a group of four species subordinated to Section Paucituberculata Lindl., thus close to Gomesa

Re: [OGD] Identify

2005-04-13 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Hey André, It looks like Miltonia regnellii, but from a tiny photo like this I don't think anyone can make a positive identification. Cheers, Dalton - Original Message - From: André Swanepoel To: Orchids@orchidguide.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 3:17 PM

Re: [OGD] masdevallia species for IOSPE

2005-01-29 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Jay, Another one on Vol 5. Masdevallia chaetostoma Luerwas first found living terestrially on the road embankment between Quito and Chiriboga.It is alsoepiphytic, abundantin cloud forest of a limited region on the western slopes of the province of Pichincha, Ecuador, altitude bet.

[OGD] Encyclia multiflora

2005-01-16 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Working on EncycliaI have found a weird entry on Pabst and Dung's Orchidaceae Brasilienses: They say Encyclia multiflora Rchb.f. non Hook. is the same of E. viridiflora Hook. That impliesthere are two E. multiflora one by Rchb.f. and one by Hook. I can find none anywhere no

Re: [OGD] re: former Laelia

2004-12-17 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Chiron and Castro have split Brazilian Laelia into 4 genera (see below). Iwish they had not included someSophronithis under Hadrolaelia.why not toleave Sophronitis as it was before? or maybe move some Hadrolaelia (pumila, praestans, alaorii, etc... well, the ones that have flower buds

Re: [OGD] Miltonia xanthinia

2004-08-15 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Dear Jose, Miltonia xanthina is a horticultural name that refers to the yellow varieties of Miltonia regnelii. Miltonia regnellii is quite variable and common, it does exist in several diferent colors, white, pink, dark pink, cream and yellow, furthermore, many of those get yellower as the

[OGD] Pleurothallis glumacea

2004-07-31 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Les, I think flowers of P. glumacea are mostly orange. The plant is about 10-20 cm tall, with extremely fleshy leaves and ramicaule that is about half the length of the leaves. Here are two photos of what I think it is. I may be wrong tho. There is a little bit of confusion about this one...

[OGD] Pleurothallidinae new genera?

2004-07-06 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Have you gotten Icones Pleurothallidinarum vol. 26 yet? It seems Dr. Luer decided to accept some of Chase's new genera and rankings after all, am I right? There is a last minute addendum that quotes the following 27 old and new genera: Aberrantia, Acianthera, Ancipitia, Antilla,

Re: [OGD] Jerry's vision of P. brasiliense

2004-05-09 Thread Dalton Holland Baptista
Sorry for delaying that much to post about this issue, but I need to bring it back to add some info. Indeed there are mistakes on Phragmipedium section of this book. I have not checked the original publication of this species, however, here in Brazil we regard the watercolor discussed by Jerry