Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-13 Thread James M. Earle III
EJBs can be less work to use, but more work to build, and then you discover they don't scale and have to rewrite the underpinnings. Jaz Keith Kwiatek wrote: Hello, EJB's are great if you like tripling the amount of code you have to write How is everyone building their web

RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-08 Thread Duffey, Kevin
al Message- From: Keith Kwiatek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 11:48 AM To: Orion-Interest Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way Does anyone know if jdeveloper (which is based on Jbuilder) has the same functionality

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-08 Thread Dave Ford
When editing XML files, its not immediately apparent if there is a problem I know one thing that help solve that problem. If Sun would publish an XMLSchema (instead of a DTD) then xml editors (like xml spy) can be used to create the xml files and catch the mistakes as you make them. Dave Ford

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Joel Shellman
EJB's are great if you like tripling the amount of code you have to write Depends on what you are comparing it to--CMP reduces a lot of db code. How is everyone building their web apps with hand coded programs, or using automagic tools? We're hand coding. It sure seems like

RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Kurt Hoyt
If you take a look at all the code that Orion (and any other EJB server product) "writes" for you when you deploy your beans, and all the code that exists in the server to manage those beans, you'd see that the way EJBs work REDUCE the amount of code you have to write. EJBs are an immature

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Cory Adams
JBuilder 4 Enterprise allows you do build Entity CMP beans this way. You can connect to a datasource and then select tables and keys for your beans. It's wild. I'm still getting used to it. Can anybody else with more experience using this tool give us a little insight? Thanks, Cory At

RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Peter Delahunty
Am I off base here, or are ejb's a lot more work? How can people talk about how EJB's "speed development time"?!? alot more work than what ? I to solve a problem using EJB's you should have a problem that EJB's were designed to solve. And so if you have one of those problems. Then EJB

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Marcus Ahnve
Keith Kwiatek wrote: Hello, EJB's are great if you like tripling the amount of code you have to write How is everyone building their web apps with hand coded programs, or using automagic tools? Mostly by hand. It sure seems like there should be some sort of tool that

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Joshua Goodall
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Keith Kwiatek wrote: How is everyone building their web apps with hand coded programs, or using automagic tools? I use JBuilder Enterprise 4 which does do skeletal work, including matching up home remote interfaces to the businessmethods of beans, and it produces

RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
:35 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way EJB's are great if you like tripling the amount of code you have to write Depends on what you are comparing it to--CMP reduces a lot of db code. How is everyone building their web apps with hand coded

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread M. David Minnigerode
Keith Kwiatek wrote: Hello, EJB's are great if you like tripling the amount of code you have to write How is everyone building their web apps with hand coded programs, or using automagic tools? It sure seems like there should be some sort of tool that you can just point at

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Keith Kwiatek
Does anyone know if jdeveloper (which is based on Jbuilder) has the same functionality? Keith - Original Message - From: Cory Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way

Re: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread gbhalerao
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RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread J.T. Wenting
be a BETTER way Does anyone know if jdeveloper (which is based on Jbuilder) has the same functionality? Keith - Original Message - From: Cory Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: Re: There has GOTTA

RE: There has GOTTA be a BETTER way !!!!

2000-11-07 Thread Juan Lorandi (Chile)
Pramati Stuido does that... takes a DB Table (if you want one), and creates either BMP or CMP entities It has a packager, and it also has a J2EE App Server + Web Server built in, for development purposes, and allows for debugging of jsp/servlets EJBs It also is 100% pure java, so you can run