[osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
http://www.jfplayhouse.com/2010/04/why-linux-is-not-attracting-young.html "Because of these reasons I don’t think it as a surprise that the iPhone has been much better at attracting young developers than Linux. And forget about the money aspect, just look at how many free apps there are in the iTu

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread CL Chow
Because they are hired or paid because of their credit, if you work your ass out for some foss projects, your contribution basically overwhelmed by the author themselves, this is my thought and irony of life of being an unnamed contributor, people don't care how much or how good you did, they just

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
it's coding superstar. coders wearing cape, the unsung heroes. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:23 PM, CL Chow wrote: > Because they are hired or paid because of their credit, > if you work your ass out for some foss projects, your contribution basically > overwhelmed by the author themselves, this is m

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread CL Chow
some selfish and stupid businessman once told me, i'm not a survivor, but i replied, i'm not a survivor, but i die to let you survive, i prefer the latter way some 2cents Regards, CL Chow "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/camp

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread Raja Iskandar Shah
this is grossly inequal comparison cuba compare linux vs the iphone operating system ! bodoh punya mat salleh ! On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi < najmi.zab...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.jfplayhouse.com/2010/04/why-linux-is-not-attracting-young.html > > "Beca

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
I guess he just mentioned out his worries :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: > this is grossly inequal comparison > > cuba compare linux vs the iphone operating system ! > > bodoh punya mat salleh ! > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabi

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread sweemeng ng
it is more like the linux not hip enough, and also partly because a sad state of computer education down to it courses university On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi < najmi.zab...@gmail.com> wrote: > I guess he just mentioned out his worries :) > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010

[osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Dear all communities, I would like to notes all communities give co-operation with this coming events. I need person contact via email/phone with all leader OSS community. I will list below community that i know was listed. Each person in charge of community i need their idea and what community ca

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread archayl
OSDC.my is not in the list? Question: local community - involved? Not related to specific software, but the principle of OSS. On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:39 +0800, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: > Dear all communities, > > I would like to notes all communities give co-operation with this > coming events.

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Dear archayl, OSDC.My was the the organizer and will lead all the OSS community for this. So i hope you understand. What ever OSS related that their have own community was a OSS community. Hope you clear on this and are you one of the leader community if yes please give me your detail so i can put

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread archayl
LoL. Shame on me ;). Just thought that it'd be nice if OSDC.my is along the same level with everyone else. Okay, here you are. Community: Kuching Open Source Community - KuchingOSC. Contact person: me, though I'm not the leader. I can channel to the community though. Website: http://kuchingosc.or

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Harisfazillah Jamel
Hi OSDC.my want to fill in the roll to represent to whole OSS community. We want to push OSS agenda in a more professional manner. We want to approach government sector, ICT industry and Universities. Because of that we take the challenge to continue organised Malaysia Open Source Conference 2010

[osdcmy-public] Fwd: What’s been happening with PH P.net.my

2010-04-19 Thread Harisfazillah Jamel
-- Forwarded message -- From: PHP.net.my Webmaster Date: Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM Subject: What’s been happening with PHP.net.my To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com   Greetings to all, It has been a busy start to the year.  We’ve been working on a bunch of activities since Q4 of 200

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
OSDC.MY is a platform for any OSS community in Malaysia gather in one roof. Otherwise OSS community will scatter around Malaysia and nobody know it. We seek any OSS community to join OSDC.MY and promote all the OSS community to Malaysian that OSS community was exist and they can join any OSS commun

Re: [osdcmy-public] Iphone is more appealing than FOSS

2010-04-19 Thread simpleLinux
Linux is so customizable. You want it THAT WAY, you design it and the Linux system just work. Drivers from nvidia, AC97, Network cards is now developing drivers for Linux. That is S unfair to judge such inequalities as being said: * * > > *this is grossly inequal comparison* > > *cuba c

Re: [osdcmy-public] FreeNAS 0.7.1 is out!!

2010-04-19 Thread simpleLinux
downloaded and tested on a real PC :-) On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah wrote: > taken from distrowatch: > > http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06007 > > > Daisuke Aoyama has announced the release of > FreeNAS0.7.1, a FreeBSD-based operating >

Re: [osdcmy-public] FreeNAS 0.7.1 is out!!

2010-04-19 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
off-topic: how's latest freenas compared to openfiler 2.3 which hadn't been updated since last year in terms of ease of use? On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:57 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote: > downloaded and tested on a real PC :-) > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Ahmad Arafat Abdulla

Re: [osdcmy-public] FreeNAS 0.7.1 is out!!

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Subject to FreeNAS now officially takeover by IXsystem. So they continue to development the FreeNAS core system. IXsystem was same company develop PCBSD. About openfiler i dont know because i dont use it. So in term of easy to use let people decide it. :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Umarzu

Re: [osdcmy-public] FreeNAS 0.7.1 is out!!

2010-04-19 Thread syamsul anuar
Aku rasa openfiler ngan FreeNAS 2 different thing beb. FreeNAS = Easy to use + a lot of function to cater for the NAS market. Windows sharing, Torrent server, media streaming etc, Openfiler = more like to cater for raw storage needs (iSCSI SAN), NFS etc. Not to mention FreeNAS is BSD while Openf

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Update Community Leaders 1) Joomla - En. Shaifullnizam 2) Ubuntu - En. Khairul Aizat 3) Fedora - En Syamsul Anuar 4) Python - 5) Fosschix - 6) PHP - En. Amran 7) PCBSD - En. Ahmad Arafat 8) PhpNuke - 9) Debian - 10) Slackware - 12) Ruby - 13) FOSS.MY - 14) SimpleLinux - 15) Kedah OSS - 16)

Re: [osdcmy-public] FreeNAS 0.7.1 is out!!

2010-04-19 Thread Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
e-Box is nice too. It's a debian based http://www.ebox-platform.com/ it has NAS but more functionality like pfSense for firewall I prefer pfSense, it's a minimalist freebsd for NAS I prefer FreeNAS, it's a minimalist freebsd for both in one system I prefer e-Box try and see. depends on your usag

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: > Update Community Leaders > > 1) Joomla - En. Shaifullnizam > 2) Ubuntu - En. Khairul Aizat > 3) Fedora - En Syamsul Anuar > 4) Python - > 5) Fosschix - Cik Nuhaa 6) PHP - En. Amran > 7) PCBSD - En. Ahmad Arafat > 8) PhpNuke - >

Re: [osdcmy-public] FreeNAS 0.7.1 is out!!

2010-04-19 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
thanks for this info On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote: > e-Box is nice too. It's a debian based http://www.ebox-platform.com/ > it has NAS but more functionality like pfSense > > for firewall I prefer pfSense, it's a minimalist freebsd > for NAS I prefer FreeNAS, it's

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
er...debian tu rasenye lagi molek kalau point/pilih ahli-ahli senior yahoo group mydebian On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini < jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran > wrote: > >> Update Community Leaders >> >> 1) Joomla

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
apa lagi..modifide lerr.. aku tatau sapa orang lama kat group tu..hehe :p On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > er...debian tu rasenye lagi molek kalau point/pilih ahli-ahli senior yahoo > group mydebian > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini < > jipa

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Umazurki, What your suggestion. Until now only your are active dalam debian. Kalau you ada somebody yang lead the debian community. Give some name.. we will update list. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > er...debian tu rasenye lagi molek kalau point/pilih ahli-ahli seni

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fadzil Md Arap
myopensuse = eric yeoh On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: > Umazurki, > > What your suggestion. Until now only your are active dalam debian. Kalau > you ada somebody yang lead the debian community. Give some name.. we will > update list. > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:48 PM

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Hasan Abu Bakar
no drupal? Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Mon, Apr 19, 20

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Please update for drupal and opensuse. I miss out many community on this.. 1) Open Suse - Eric Yeoh 2) Drupal - Hasanuddin It is true. for this 2 community On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote: > no drupal? > > > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar > --- > Ubuntu

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Archayl Wizzpunk
Kawan-kawan, tolong buat correction. Kuching OSC, bukan Kuching OSS. Community, bukan Software atau Society. Terima kasih daun keladi. On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote: > no drupal? > > > Hasanuddin Abu Bakar > --- > Ubuntu embedded developer/tes

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Mohd Fazli Azran
Thank for the correction. Updates!! On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Archayl Wizzpunk wrote: > Kawan-kawan, tolong buat correction. Kuching OSC, bukan Kuching OSS. > Community, bukan Software atau Society. Terima kasih daun keladi. > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar > wrote:

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Harisfazillah Jamel
Debian kena tanya Mambang.org.my http://mambang.org.my/modules/news/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/OshiriX/110304855672324 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: > Umazurki, > > What your suggestion. Until now only your are active dalam debian. Kalau you > ada somebody yang l

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Harisfazillah Jamel
List saya http://planet-oss-malaysia.blogspot.com/2009/12/list-of-open-source-communities.html Tarik sampai page last On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: > Thank for the correction. Updates!! > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Archayl Wizzpunk > wrote: >> >> Kawan-kawa

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Hasan Abu Bakar
no drupal? Hasanuddin Abu Bakar --- Ubuntu embedded developer/tester https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org PGP Public Key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C On Mon, Apr 19, 20

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Archayl Wizzpunk wrote: > Kawan-kawan, tolong buat correction. Kuching OSC, bukan Kuching OSS. > Community, bukan Software atau Society. Terima kasih daun keladi. > bukan saya dah buat tadi ke? dekat sebelah tu? :) > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Hasan Abu

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread Muhammad Najmi Ahmad Zabidi
saya nak jadi representative utk command "ls" On 4/20/10, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Archayl Wizzpunk wrote: > >> Kawan-kawan, tolong buat correction. Kuching OSC, bukan Kuching OSS. >> Community, bukan Software atau Society. Terima kasih daun keladi. >>

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread edthix
Hi all, 18) Sabah Open Source & KKLUG - me (Edham Arief) P/s: We're currently not really active. Probably I'll attend MOSC2010, still not confirmed yet. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Mohd Fazli Azran Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:57:28 To: Subject: Re: [o

[osdcmy-public] Re: [mosc2010] Fwd: What’s been ha ppening with PHP.net.my

2010-04-19 Thread Raja Iskandar Shah
alahai company kami tak layak for the m$ offers and not technically possible to run on top of the windows environment as we need to run openoffice.org (headless), gnumeric (commandline), firefox (virtual x) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel < linuxmalay...@gmail.com>

Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: [mosc2010] Fwd: What’s bee n happening with PHP.net.my

2010-04-19 Thread CL Chow
sorry, i rather start hard, than needing to rely on m$ Regards, CL Chow "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/"; On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: > alahai company kami tak

Re: [osdcmy-public] MOSC2010 : Open Source Community Person Contact - Leader Community

2010-04-19 Thread sweemeng ng
python.my is still marcus, or you can just check http://groups.google.com/group/pythonmy On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:19 AM, wrote: > Hi all, > > 18) Sabah Open Source & KKLUG - me (Edham Arief) > > P/s: We're currently not really active. Probably I'll attend MOSC2010, > still not confirmed yet. >

[osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-19 Thread A Johan
salam & good day all, according to the TIOBE index C is now the most used programming language. java is on a declining trend. php surprisingly upward trend. and the language yg orang suka kutuk / gelak / mock is at #5. other interesting thing to see is the super star rise of Objective C and Go (?

Re: [osdcmy-public] Bye Java, Hello C

2010-04-19 Thread Raja Iskandar Shah
aj where have you been ? we have been quoting the tiobe index in the flaming php vs python war well not really lah be interesting to see anyone do a framework with php as presentation layer with python on the backend (like an abstraction layer). some good backend stuff like analytics,