Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-24 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
better plan/draft it now or nothing at all :) On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:49 PM, CL Chow wrote: > again, very interesting... > > > Regards, > CL Chow > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Boh Yap wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> I was drafting this for another htread where someone asked for a >>

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-23 Terurut Topik CL Chow
again, very interesting... Regards, CL Chow On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Boh Yap wrote: > hi all, > > I was drafting this for another htread where someone asked for a > busines plan idea but never completed it and didn't get sent. So I > decided to post it here instead as it sounds

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-22 Terurut Topik Boh Yap
hi all, I was drafting this for another htread where someone asked for a busines plan idea but never completed it and didn't get sent. So I decided to post it here instead as it sounds more appropriate. Altho thsi project is not directly for gov, it is related to Gov as it involves GST... Pl

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-22 Terurut Topik Azril Nazli Alias
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-21 Terurut Topik MM
L&G, thanks for the suggestion and those yg keluar landasan. FYI, we are targeting to hv this workshop somewhere in June We should avoid discussing on many areas where we could not get any result in the end. perhaps, we can focus on 2 or 3 areas that can benefit both community ang gov. and i notic

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Ya saya setuju. Beberapa sebutharga dan tender yang kami masuk sebutkan keperluan perisian OSS tertentu. Nampaknya usaha OSCC semakin berkesan. Juga dapati specs yang dalam dokumen tender atau sebutharga tidak terikat kepada OSS atau tidak OSS. Yang penting Open Standard, ada TOT dan source code a

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik Raja Iskandar Shah
mohon tambah usul untuk bincangkan 3 pilot community projects yang ada tarikh mula, tarikh siap, tempoh tidak lebih dari 6 bulan, dan pada penghujung projek akan publish 1 product dan 1 document (credits dikongsi antara oscc, agensi, dan community members yg terlibat). mungkin 1 untuk desktop, 1 u

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik simpleLinux
Yalah... Mesti best ... Gantikan Adobe kpd GIMP Gantikan Microsoft Office kpd OpenOffice Saya tengok lebih 60 % pengguna menciplak software tersebut, ialah, sebab berbayar kan Pengguna boleh dididik menggunakan software "Percuma, FREE" sebab we love free software.. Cikgu, Boleh tak masukkan ele

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik Umarzuki Mochlis
+1 e1 mungkinkah saya jurulatih percuma itu? boleh jadi... berbalik ke topik asal, mungkin boleh dibincangkan mengenai peralihan dari program prorietary ke open source untuk kelas/bengkel yang bakal dilakukan oleh oscc tentulah dengan bukti-buktinya seperti negara brazil, jerman dan sepanyol (mung

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Guys and gals. Workshop that En. Marzuki ask us for opinion is not what we think of. In government, workshop mean "brain storming" session. :) Before OSCC MAMPU invited us for this Workshop, he ask for our opinions and ideas so OSCC MAMPU can prepare things that need to be prepare. During this

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik CL Chow
free as in freedom in exhanging knowledge, freedom to know, freedom to express, freedom to understand, freedom to use, freedom to own, and freedom to distribute, free as in free beer/teh tarik is not of the main intention ;) people who steal from the evil are nothing better than evil... to free ou

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik simpleLinux
not all FREE of charge, but we can teach ourself to use FREE software not Pirated software. Mostly people are using WINDOWS CIPLAK. Then, keluarlah "Windows is Not Genuine, click here to resolve now" pastu abih data2 semua tak boleh backup. You are "FREE" to use open source You are "FREE" to modif

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan
sorry to comment about this, but for me open source is "not all" free of charge.. although I'm not "orang lama" in the industry, but still open source has a valuable inside of it.. so please, open source is not *FREE AS FREE TEH TARIK, BUT FREE AS IN FREEDOM* p/s : ni la yang aku belajar dari

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik Syamsul Anuar
) -anuar- Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:01:08 To: Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop Gerenti datang nak present simpleLinux, sumber terbuka paling best... On Sat, Mar 20, 201

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik simpleLinux
Gerenti datang nak present simpleLinux, sumber terbuka paling best... On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Muhd Syazwan wrote: > +100 e1..saya dari johor pun sanggup datang :D > > > On 20.03.2010 14:15, Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri wrote: > > +10 e1 > > Sent from my Awesome iPhone!! > > > On 2010 Mac

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-20 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan
+100 e1..saya dari johor pun sanggup datang :D On 20.03.2010 14:15, Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri wrote: +10 e1 Sent from my Awesome iPhone!! On 2010 Mac 20, at 02:10 PM, Mohd Hidzuan > wrote: Salam tuan.. itu betul.. sekiranya ada tempat (lab komputer) yang PERCUMA

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-19 Terurut Topik Syamsul Anuar
- Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: Umarzuki Mochlis Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:06:30 To: Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop This definitely could create flamewar somewhere, hopefully not here 2010/3/20 simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> >

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-19 Terurut Topik Umarzuki Mochlis
This definitely could create flamewar somewhere, hopefully not here 2010/3/20 simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> > Bukanlah open source kan percuma, Windows pulak kena bayar jimat > duit > > > > On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mohd Hidzuan wrote: > >> Salam tuan... >> >> >> Keluar fulus ku

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-19 Terurut Topik Mohammad Sallehuddin Kodri
+10 e1 Sent from my Awesome iPhone!! On 2010 Mac 20, at 02:10 PM, Mohd Hidzuan wrote: Salam tuan.. itu betul.. sekiranya ada tempat (lab komputer) yang PERCUMA.. makanan yang PERCUMA.. minuman yang PERCUMA.. minyak kereta utk trainer datang ke tempat yang dijanjikan itu PERCUMA.. nota utk dif

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-19 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan
Salam tuan.. itu betul.. sekiranya ada tempat (lab komputer) yang PERCUMA.. makanan yang PERCUMA.. minuman yang PERCUMA.. minyak kereta utk trainer datang ke tempat yang dijanjikan itu PERCUMA.. nota utk difotosat itu PERCUMA.. dan TRAINER tu datang ke tempat itu dengan PERCUMA dan SEIKHLAS HATIN

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-19 Terurut Topik simpleLinux
Bukanlah open source kan percuma, Windows pulak kena bayar jimat duit On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mohd Hidzuan wrote: > Salam tuan... > > > Keluar fulus kurang untuk open source yang lebih berkualiti sebenarnya. >> > > apa maksudnya .. keluar fulus ni.. adakah kelas yang bakal

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-19 Terurut Topik Mohd Hidzuan
Salam tuan... Keluar fulus kurang untuk open source yang lebih berkualiti sebenarnya. > apa maksudnya .. keluar fulus ni.. adakah kelas yang bakal dirancang ini buat secara PERCUMA? Regards, Mohd Hidzuan Zainul Hashim Open Source Consultant - Selasih Net Enterprise m: +6.012.263.1282 f:

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-18 Terurut Topik simpleLinux
absolutely agree... Keluar fulus kurang untuk open source yang lebih berkualiti sebenarnya. "Maju Linux untuk Negara" On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:01 PM, CL Chow wrote: > I'm agree with Uma, let's kick it start then... :) > Do it before it becomes cold... > > Regards, > CL Chow > > > > > > On

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-18 Terurut Topik CL Chow
I'm agree with Uma, let's kick it start then... :) Do it before it becomes cold... Regards, CL Chow On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > Perhaps (could be mission impossible) a workshop to make government IT > staff more open-source minded. How to do that? That's a hard

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-18 Terurut Topik Umarzuki Mochlis
Perhaps (could be mission impossible) a workshop to make government IT staff more open-source minded. How to do that? That's a hard question indeed. It is not a mission impossible if it is not ;) If the top people already in it, then we can talk about open source Malaysia, which is the whole point

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Kita boleh mula dengan ini. Kena bincang dengan RnD OSCC MAMPU bagaimana kita boleh turut serta. http://sourceforge.net/projects/osccmampu/ On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini wrote: > +1 for doing R&D together..boleh isi masa lapang kalau tak ade kerja :) -- Join Open

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
+1 for doing R&D together..boleh isi masa lapang kalau tak ade kerja :) On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel < linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yep do agreed. Commmunity need hosting for their website and mailing list. > > > > > My suggestion : > > > > 1) Doing meetup with OSS c

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Yep do agreed. Commmunity need hosting for their website and mailing list. > > My suggestion : > > 1) Doing meetup with OSS community regularly > 2) Built official web for OSS community & OSCC (wiki,pootle or trac) > 3) Get and invite all OSS community in 1 roof. > > Regards, > Mohd Fazli Azran -

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik CL Chow
how about startup more projects and let's do together, create some new one, innovation? get in a regular workshop for development discussion or brainstorming... actions speak louder than words ;) Regards, CL Chow On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIG

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik Mohd Fazli Azran
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/18/10 10:02 AM, Muhammad Hafiz wrote: > @MM @Harisfazillah Jamel: > > Thanks for the suggestion, keen to know more about it and hopefully it will > become a reality and maybe can be done also for this year MSCOSCONF '10, if > the conference gonna

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik Muhammad Hafiz
@MM @Harisfazillah Jamel: Thanks for the suggestion, keen to know more about it and hopefully it will become a reality and maybe can be done also for this year MSCOSCONF '10, if the conference gonna be a reality, and to @Harisfazillah Jamel, two thumbs and toes up for you, because of the suggestio

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik Harisfazillah Jamel
Marzuki, Thank you for MAMPU interest to work with OSS community. I will start with a few suggestions and I hope others will suggest more ideas. 1) Community working with RnD OSCC MAMPU to maintain OSCC Products and improved them. 2) Working with RnD to package more OSS products that suitable to

[osdcmy-public] OSS Community Workshop

2010-03-17 Terurut Topik MM
Hi everybody, OSCC plan to conduct a workshop for the OSS Community. We are working on the potential contents that has to be mutually beneficial for both the Government and community . As such, I welcome any suggestion or idea on what to discuss during this workshop and perhaps with objectives, li