The more we're exposed, the more we'll understand... and the more we able to
see the pros and cons ;)
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On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Boh Yap
Ang,
you're right, this is all in fun... those of us who know a few
languages know that.. perhaps the pt is to educate the noobs, or the
monolinguists ;-)
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ang Chin Han wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Ang Chin Han wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote:
>>
>> hola guys,
>> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting
>> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how
>> the battle goes muahahahahaha
>> OSCC is do
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote:
>
> hola guys,
> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting
> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how
> the battle goes muahahahahaha
> OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at:
> - sca
A few points here:
@Haris, Nuhaa
better to scale down the scope, Python vs PHP FOR WEB PROGRAMMING,
would be a better directive.
But being unfair to Python?
I hardly think so. Frameworks like Django can go head to head with
Joomla anytime, Zope/Plone can scale to Wikipedia/Facebook size
anytime
So in conclusion to what i am saying :
PHP is ugly because its trying to do what it was not designed for and
doing that to "survive".
But PHP in web dev is undeniably simple and nice and it should be kept
that way.
Hence my first postingPHP vs Python ? Are you kidding me!
Marcus Low
isn't sql not turing complete???
i like c++ when syntax highlight is on, beautiful :)
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Marcus Low wrote:
> Use
Use cobol then .
C/C++ is not ugly. They have a learning curve and no way should it be
associated with PHP.
C/C++ is the mother of all the popular languages you know today and
what did you think PHP, python interpreter, linux, windows, OSX is
written in?
The badminton racket is not a correct
Don't forget the opera browser :)
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel > wrote:
Browser still OK. Just carefull when conclude it. Both browser build
for 2 different things.
Firefox is a full blown Web Browser build to cater public use. Very
wide scope
Chr
Browser still OK. Just carefull when conclude it. Both browser build
for 2 different things.
Firefox is a full blown Web Browser build to cater public use. Very wide scope
Chrome is still in beta and consider a research for Google.
It mean to make Javascript websites run faster. To secure the br
Haris, how bout the browser? Still ok right?
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-Original Message-
From: Harisfazillah Jamel
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:21:57
To:
Cc: nuhaa
Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
Nuhaa,
>From all the feedback. I believe you need to review b
But remember, sometime company don't use python or what not, is because of
the skill within the staff.
so sometime it is best to test it out, to see which goes, written code
maybe?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nuhaa,
>
> From all the fe
Nuhaa,
>From all the feedback. I believe you need to review back comparing
python and php...
Its already hot discussion in OSDC.my and Its will be hotter when
release to public Internet ... Better compare it with other language
like Ruby or
Scale down the scope. Like Comparing Python and PHP in
Learn To Program :: Pragmatic Programmers ( They use python 3 )
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:38 AM, saifuladli ismail <
ismail.saifula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> what is the best book for the beginner to learn Phyton from scratch..TQ
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote:
>
>> hola guys,
>
what is the best book for the beginner to learn Phyton from scratch..TQ
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote:
> hola guys,
>
> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting
>
> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how
> the battle goes muahahahahaha
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:11 AM, CL Chow wrote:
> lol Faisal, I don't think you can compare PHP with Python on that lol, it's
> a completely different story XD
>
>
That's exactly what I'm trying to say (hidden point). You can't really
compare PHP and Python - it's like comparing rambutan and du
few days back I just solved a problem which can actually be done by
GAWK (but unsure how), fortunately I did it with Python. Basically
text file processing stuffs. Although quite n00b with Python (as to
every other comp.lang as well) hehe...
python packages are enormous, ranged from system level a
I spent almost 1k on RoR books...still I code in PHP
Now I'm exploring Live Streaming & CDN.
I'ts something like you have BMW M3 at home but use kancil for everyday use
:D
/me looking for m-par 18"
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Java is the new Cobol!
to follow up on what someone mentioned eralier:
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=42242
my exact sentiments! When I wanted to learn a new language after Basic
and a few 4th GL (remember those days?!) I actually tried Java, gave
up in frustration, then disco
hi raja,
sorry didn't quite understand what you saying...
but if you need help with python related stuff you're always welcome.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
wrote:
> boh, i might (this is still a long shot) have python in our ida2 for the
> textual analysis engine ;-) cu
Amran et al,
true, thats an old argument,... it depends on the skills of the
craftsmen, but if that craftsmen is so good, and he can do good things
with crappy tools, don't you thing he can do even more wonderful
things with better tools!?
think... if Leonardo had access to modern tools, super-co
hi,
one thing I forgot to add, Python is great as a beginners language,
ie: for teaching programming, to kids to Comp Sc students etc.
It has all the paradigms and jargon for modern languages, its free,
and its easy to get started. And did I mention, its just about the
only language I find that i
Amran +10
Hehehe.
Its all depend on the programmer. If he or she good and know what he or she want
any programming language suitable for him or her.
Programming is an art.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Ahmad Amran wrote:
> I think if someone saying PHP is ugly is like saying C and C++
I think if someone saying PHP is ugly is like saying C and C++ is also
ugly. If they all ugly siblings and C is no 1, C++ no 3 and PHP no 4
this month on Tiobe index. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
. I think i dont mind being ugly:p. (luckily I'm quite hands
lol Faisal, I don't think you can compare PHP with Python on that lol, it's
a completely different story XD
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On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:05 AM, E A
Among the reasons why I don't use PHP are because its a pain to do
asynchronous socket programming (Python have Twisted), stable binding to
DBus, stable binding to WxWidget and stable binding to OO.org UNO.
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Take a break, forget python, ruby and php :
http://beerpla.net/2008/12/16/the-ultimate-programming-language-lolcode/
Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
maybe this thread should really be python vs perl vs java ?
but php is still the top language for web cms :
http://www.packtpub.com/article/open-so
There was a point in time in the windows community that Basic becomes
Visual Basic and was the most popular language
for developing desktop apps on win32. However the inherent ugliness of
the language and how OOP was forced to it so that
it could stay alive was like a Frankeinstien on steroids
maybe this thread should really be python vs perl vs java ?
but php is still the top language for web cms :
http://www.packtpub.com/article/open-source-cms-award-previous-winners
open source cms awards :
1. 2009
1. wordpress - php
2. modx - php
3. silverstripe - php
2.
becareful with that, PHP is still huge in web based development. facebook
still using php for example. it just gone mainstream, therefore lack the
buzz, imho
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Marcus Low wrote:
> Python vs PHP?
> U must be kidding me. In Windows terminology that is like : current
Python vs PHP?
U must be kidding me. In Windows terminology that is like : current C#
vs early 2000 ASP scripts.
One is flexible and general and growing exponentially, the other is
niche and barely going anywhere except whats its started for.
Marcus.
Boh Yap wrote:
hi,
PHP... I don't use i
boh, i might (this is still a long shot) have python in our ida2 for the
textual analysis engine ;-) current engine developed by malaysian. now at
early negotiation stage to employ the guy.
the guy also has a working prototype for image analysis ;-) for now it is
for recognising the species of a p
Correction ;) ruby, not ruby on rails, it's a
framework(different category,so not fair)
Regards,
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On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
lin
Sepatutnya
Perl vs Python
PHP vs Ruby on Rail
:)
Saja nak bagi panas.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:35 AM, wrote:
> No komen, mgmnt yg decide
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-Original Message-
From: Harisfazillah Jamel
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:34:00
To:
Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] PHP vs Python
Why not PERL? Its among the oldest and widely used script language in
Unix and Linux environment
Why not PERL? Its among the oldest and widely used script language in
Unix and Linux environment.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote:
> hola guys,
> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting
> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how
> the bat
Directly to php no, but i did contribute in some framework development ;)
Regards,
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On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, nuhaa wrote:
> thanks alot for feedb
thanks alot for feedback - keep it coming please
forgot to note previously - *contributions will be properly credited in the
report :)*
i myself have always been a php developer - i;ve seen python here and there
and yea i like that it's readable and can do more than just web app
has anyone contr
I believe you are not looking for general benchmark? Aren't you?
because there are tonnes of benchmark or research already done by
bloggers http://www.google.com.my/search?q=php+vs+python+benchmark
btw, as my personal preference and research
- speed
python saves a lot time to write codes than php
my team does php. because that's what the majority of our target market uses
and wants.
second to that and rising fast is javascript.
but as sweemeng points out, python is an attractive language and perhaps an
easier option compared to java for us to go into web, desktop and mobile
platforms.
update version of my previous link:
http://wiki.w4py.org/python-vs-php.html
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Adzmely Mansor wrote:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonVsPhp
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote:
>
>> hola guys,
>>
>> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interest
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonVsPhp
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM, nuhaa wrote:
> hola guys,
>
> php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting
>
> php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how
> the battle goes muahahahahaha
>
> OSCC is doing a benchmark
My primary language is always PHP ..and a year ago I've started do some
coding in Ruby
I've done PHP for :
- portals
- processing incoming SMS via php cli
- using framework
Python..in other way..I use it for Symbian S60 application..I like the
language...but too litle time to invest
My language
As a fulltime php developer and a python hobbyist, i prefer python, as swee
meng mentioned, python is not just for web development, and for me, i like
python because i can plug anything to my python project... and
transforming/converting into whether to websites or tools
php is slow without good c
It is a long time since I actually use php, i would leave my comment on php
as minimal as possible.
Python code(in my personal opinion) is more readable that PHP, which is
important because you need that maintain your code
Python also have a lot of tools that not just for web development, but for
hola guys,
php vs python? yeapp this going to be interesting
php and python hardcores pls put in ur input - we're interested to see how
the battle goes muahahahahaha
OSCC is doing a benchmark on those 2 .. things we're looking at:
- scalability
- namespace
- speed
- syntax
- .. put ur input here
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