Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

On 5/14/10 11:48 AM, rafe azsnal wrote: Please do take note that i am talking as an MDeC official in reply to your email, and to my concern this email and all its trails will be documented as an official respond from us. Rafe, What does this mean? Please clarify and i regard anything you say

Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

M Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone -Original Message- From: rafe azsnal Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 21:32:33 To: Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen Saja terlepas cakap n tak sengaja cakap is 2 totally different thing sir. I am trying my best to help you n

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Saja terlepas cakap n tak sengaja cakap is 2 totally different thing sir. I am trying my best to help you n everyone else and the same time getting the community to work together as one honestly red1 I don't really need someone who only think and fighting his own agenda rather than the good of all

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minta maaf la bang.. manusia biasala.. saje terlepas cakap... nanti ana kembali dari seberang singapura kita duk sit down talk ok? On 5/14/10 11:48 AM, rafe azsnal wrote: Dear Red1 RED1 - how many times that we sit down and talk? how times that we have shown you the ways and more ways and more

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Dear Red1 RED1 - how many times that we sit down and talk? how times that we have shown you the ways and more ways and more doors and even more doors for you to walk in and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT:??? how in the world we can help you if you don't want to help your self? We at INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT D

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SABASUN? the towkay Salman is my good old frens.. His part...@brother salmi is IT guys also... On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: > sabasun ke ? > > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Adzmely Mansor wrote: > >> just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu i

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The local companies where got "fight" to offer local talents here the same salary. Anyone here a hyprocrite? So let them lar get milked by proprietary companies , they got paid what they want wat. If there are passionate programmers that would work for local companies and make it a success, the

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We got Petronas! Just need to convert that into a Malaysia samsung or hyundai. Actually just practice more friendly and open business invitations, Malaysia's anti-earthquake, cheap labor and big lands (sg = hahaha) and the none existence of red and yellow t-shirts will ensure Malaysia a top ch

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Giving away free only makes money when (either one of the following) :- 1. you already have another business that is not giving free 2. its ads related 3. it cost you nothing to give away but u might get something in return 4. you plan someone would buy over for reasons related to (1,2) 5. you ar

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Probably the reason why IT in malaysia, is in lowyat plaza . we don't get selling services On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:18 PM, red1 wrote: > On 5/2/10 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: > >> i pity ritz and rafe >> >> at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer when >> their

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On 5/2/10 2:33 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: i pity ritz and rafe at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer when their boss asks "give away software for free ! humph ! how to generate the industry like that ?" Giving away for free does make money. Look at Hotmail, Y

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Song that depicted our situation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3M8Sk7X51k&feature=related Regards, CL Chow "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument

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i pity ritz and rafe at night just before i close my eyes, i wonder what is their answer when their boss asks "give away software for free ! humph ! how to generate the industry like that ?" unfortunately, the big boss is too busy playing golf with these foreign companies. that's what you get whe

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sabasun ke ? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Adzmely Mansor wrote: > just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu is adopting > adempiere, some customizing is on going.. > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1 wrote: > >> Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex

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just for info, one local hypermarket in kuala terengganu is adopting adempiere, some customizing is on going.. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, red1 wrote: > Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir that > rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards

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Precisely we have to take the heavy cue from our ex ex PM Tun Mahathir that rightly realised the branding gap and took big steps towards it. Today we do not need to spend millions to brand F1 which is not ours anyway but we can brand our own projects. Jimmy Choo and Michelle Yeoh or Vijay Singh

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What sucks in what in most mind, certificate == employability It is not totally wrong. but IT is much much bigger than that. When people heard of a well known name, their just impressed easily. when you tell people i can code in python, they just ask what. such is a sad state of .my now On Sun,

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Scrambled, just the filter is open source, habis terbukak la semua rahsia :) Yeah good idea.. maybe we suggest in RMK10 to either use OpenJDK or Python.  I also talked to Boh by closed paid phone call that we can propose Python and ADempiere as top topics for KPerak to build real world skills.

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hihihi my name and my employer tak scrambled jugak ke ... anyway, hopefully we can get lots more people invoived. red1... tak nak tukar from java to python ke ? i get a little uneasy looking at oracle logo being plastered on java.com On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, red1 wrote: > DISCL

[osdcmy-public] The Curious Case of Butang Gomen

DISCLAIMER - This is not a rant. If it ever deviated to such a lowly state, please ignore and do not read further. LANGUAGE PREFENCE - I will try to sitck to the Indonesian Java - Manglish with a smackering of colloqial Javanese. Ok,waras! Alkisahnya, one day in September 2006 i was ask to head