SV: AW: Central Asia

2001-08-29 Thread Thomas Herrmann
What an increadible conversation, thanks all contributing. A thought struck me. In conflict I guess we are afraid that our truth is not good enough. It may be a struggle to remain in order instead of being thrown into the chaos of finding a new truth... I should be sleeping by now Thomas -Urs

Re: Discussions of Truth

2001-08-29 Thread uwe.weissflog
Judi, your words point to the essence - thanks. Uwe Pathway Guidance, Rinnengaerten 1, 34516 Voehl-Marienhagen, Germany email: uwe.weissf...@pathwayguidance.com email (personal): uwe.weissf...@t-online.de phone: 49-5635-991197; fax: 49-5635-993934 * * ==

Re: Central Asia

2001-08-29 Thread uwe.weissflog
To all, this is a great conversation. Thank you. One more thought on "truth", I personally learned a lot from the 8-fold path in Buddhism. The first step is sometimes called "right view". I intepret this in the sense of clear intention and the struggle to authentic interpretation. Uwe Pathway Guida

Re: AW: Central Asia

2001-08-29 Thread (David Koehler)
In a message dated 8/29/01 11:29:02 AM Central Daylight Time, jsm...@mosquitonet.com writes: > There is that aspect of conflict that puts us in touch with ourselves. The > internal struggle that accompanies external conflict can force us to > explore our deeper truths and meanings in life. That

Other forms of holding the space

2001-08-29 Thread Chris Corrigan
I have talked alot about holding the space as it relates to parenting and especially the work of doulas and midwives in childbirth. Most of my discussions have been offlist, but a couple of things I stumbled on might be interesting to folks on this list. So I offer these links: http://geoparent.

Re: Discussions of Truth

2001-08-29 Thread william becker
Everyone is making very intelligent and learned comments, I have found it quite educational and gratifying to know others are so concerned with "Truth". Judi, how true that we come to own our view of the state of things and embody them into our beliefs and behaviors. So many questions: Is percep

Discussions of Truth

2001-08-29 Thread Judi Richardson
Isn't it interesting, Julie, as you mention blame and judgement, that we seem to have difficulty speaking from a place of need rather than judgement? It is amazing how easily a world view or a notion ... or a way of being ... anchors itself into flesh and then creates the experience that we

Re: Discussions of Truth

2001-08-29 Thread kenoli Oleari
Judi -- Are you acquainted with Non-Violent Communication? It has a practice based on what you describe. It is based on work by Marshall Rosenberg and there are some websites describing it. Kenoli Isn't it interesting, Julie, as you mention blame and judgement, that we seem to have difficulty

Truth and conflict

2001-08-29 Thread kenoli Oleari
Title: Truth and conflict I think conflict can result from many things and people locked in conflict can be coming from many places.  Sometimes conflict is standing firm at a genuine place that feels threatened.  Sometimes it is raging from a stuck place that has become safe and defended and what

Re: AW: Central Asia

2001-08-29 Thread Judi Richardson
Hi all, A very rich exchange, indeed. Intriguing to hear a plethora of experience! Julie -- you wrote... I spend some of my time mediating with people who are in conflict. It seems to me that people in conflict are usually not in touch with truth. My experience has been that people in conflict

Re: AW: Central Asia

2001-08-29 Thread Harrison Owen
At 11:40 AM 8/29/2001 -0300, you wrote: Hi all, A very rich exchange, indeed. Intriguing to hear a plethora of experience! Julie -- you wrote... I spend some of my time mediating with people who are in conflict. It seems to me that people in conflict are usually not in touch with truth. My e

Re: Discussions of Truth

2001-08-29 Thread Julie Smith
Judi, I feel my "yes" to your thoughts bubbling up, so here it comes. YES! As I say that my heart expands into the open unknown. I find myself smiling for reasons I know not. Simply a natural response to a glimmer of truth? With heart overflowing, Julie - Original Message - From:

Re: AW: Central Asia

2001-08-29 Thread Julie Smith
H.. I see what you mean, Judi and Harrison. There is that aspect of conflict that puts us in touch with ourselves. The internal struggle that accompanies external conflict can force us to explore our deeper truths and meanings in life. That exploration can result in important learning