Another small, very short thought of old origin.

2001-09-26 Thread J. Paul Everett
It is said an Eastern monarch once charged his wise men to invent him a sentence to be ever in view, and which should be true and appropriate in all times and situations. They presented him the words: "And this, too, shall pass away." How much it expresses! How chastening in the hour of pride! How

Re: Enough resources for each Being on Earth, alternatives to war

2001-09-26 Thread J. Paul Everett
In a message dated 9/25/01 9:27:49 PM, sac...@anacortes.net writes: << I am not sure what this means. Toni - Original Message - From: "J. Paul Everett" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Enough resources for each Being on Earth, alternatives to war > Ton

Re: The Way of the Warrior

2001-09-26 Thread icalarry
We are not in a time of clean response but gray areas to deepen the conversation and open the space to all perspectives is perhaps the clearest hope. I am not saying by any means that the terrorist attacks were justified or forgivable however terror has often been the response of the powerless to

Re: Amazing stuff, via Tom Atlee

2001-09-26 Thread Alan Stewart
Dear Friends This has been passed on from Tom Atlee, who has the connectings and the wisdom to find the essence of humane matters, as these postings reveal IMO. Whoever Jack Barnard is I am proud to be a member of his family (as well of members of this list! :-) ) As you may be too once you have

Re: The Way of the Warrior

2001-09-26 Thread Edward Rowland
Message text written by OSLIST >As Americans we justify our terror because the British were so powerful and oppressive. The Islamic Fundamentalist Movement has set the US in exactly the same frame and not simply as economically repressive but in a religious and cultural context.< There is a lot o

Turtle (way of warrior)

2001-09-26 Thread John Dicus
Dear all, I learned from a friend, Paula Underwood, whose Native American name was "Turtle Woman," that wisdom lives in the center of the circle. Turtle grows in the center while the ways of the four directions cycle about (warrior, visionary, healer, teacher). She said to walk the circle clockw

To Live In This World

2001-09-26 Thread John Dicus
Dear All, I awoke this morning with a piece of a Mary Oliver poem in my mind. Letting go is not easy for me -- I don't know about you. I'd like to share it with you. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ To live in this world you must do three things, to love what is mortal, to hold it against your bones knowing y

Re: To Live In This World

2001-09-26 Thread Winston Kinch
John's post made me think: maybe it's time we shared some more of these uplifting thoughts/poems/aphorisms in addition and maybe even relevant to our ongoing ruminations on current affairs. For instance; I am put in mind of a quote from Greg Levoy's great book, "Callings"... "I have heard it sa

Re: OS with First Nations people and environmental issues

2001-09-26 Thread Judi Richardson
Hi Lisa, It is Wed. and I was away on business during your original request. I have worked in open space and in other areas with the Confederacy of Mainland Mi'kmaw here in Nova Scotia. And I'd be pleased to talk to your friend. She is lucky to have a friend like you. Judi * * =

Re: OS-Principles in Hungarian; My address

2001-09-26 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Hi Erich, there is plenty of material on my website in Hungarian, here is the direct link: www.michaelmpannwitz.de/o_hungarian_inhalt.htm In fact, it is a translation of all the German material. viel Spass michael --Original Message Text--- From: Erich Kolenaty Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 14:06:37 +020

Re: OS-Principles in Hungarian; My address

2001-09-26 Thread Erich Kolenaty
Thanks to Lisa, György and Michael for the hints, I think we are well off now. We will give a little report to all how we did, when it's over. Bye from lovely Vienna Erich - Original Message - From: Michael M Pannwitz To: Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: Re

Re: Turtle (way of warrior) - who speaks for wolf?

2001-09-26 Thread Peggy Holman
I keep seeing polls that say something like 70-90% of Americans believe going to war is the right answer. I haven't heard that voice expressed here. Can someone speak that perspective from their heart? And can the rest of us be courageous enough to hold the space open for it? Who speaks for wol

Re: Turtle (way of warrior) - who speaks for wolf?

2001-09-26 Thread Michael Herman
i think we have to be careful what we assign that percentage to, peggy. i have not heard "70-90% favor *going to war*"...what i have heard is "70-90% favor *retaliation against those who have done these terrible acts*" or something to that effect. very different things. in such a complex situati

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Re: Turtle (way of warrior) - who speaks for wolf?

2001-09-26 Thread Bert Hopkins
Peggy, Your request triggered me to share the poem that is on my door, one that my friend and I were reading aloud to one another up in the Olympics on the morning of the 11th before coming down the mountain to discover a changed world. Not sure if it answers your questions, but The Bloody S

Re: Turtle (way of warrior) - who speaks for wolf?

2001-09-26 Thread Peggy Holman
The voice of wolf was missing in the council circle. Without that voice, a decision was made that led to great difficulty. Had wolf's voice been heard from the start, a different result would have occurred. My sense is there are a number of voices that we haven't heard from on this list. One th

Re: Turtle (way of warrior) - who speaks for wolf?

2001-09-26 Thread Winston Kinch
If you look hard enough, you will find some of those someones here. But, I can almost guarantee, not a majority. Perhaps you are interpreting the voice of "wolf" in a different way than others of us? Winston - Original Message - From: Peggy Holman To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.

The Way of the Warrior

2001-09-26 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Hi-- Hopefully an easy question. What's an NGO? :-Doug. Germann d...@footprintsinthewind.com * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsu

Re: The Way of the Warrior

2001-09-26 Thread J. Paul Everett
In a message dated 9/26/01 7:19:31 PM, 76066@compuserve.com writes: << Hopefully an easy question. What's an NGO? >> Non-Governmental Organization. e.g., non-profits, research institutes, associations, anyone who is basically tax exempt doing some kind of work outside of government. They

Re: Turtle (way of warrior) - who speaks for wolf?

2001-09-26 Thread kenoli Oleari
This is amazing. I guess it shows what a sheltered life I lead. I have not talked to one person about this issue who supports war. Even my mother who is quite conservative opposes war. Are these figures really accurate? Can anyone who has read 1984 (which was after all a best seller) not imagi

United Nations Petition

2001-09-26 Thread kenoli Oleari
While the actual wording of this is vague, I was quite pleased that such a thing was coming out of the United Nations. I received it from a colleague working in a UN agency in Jakarta, Indonesia. -- Kenoli *** > > >The UNO (United Nations) is

Re: Turtle (way of warrior) - who speaks for wolf? Long reply

2001-09-26 Thread Toni Petrinovich
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." David Rockefeller, speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994 Toni Petrinovich - Original Message - From: "J. Paul Ever