Re: Inviting Topics for helping social agencies work together?

2005-08-28 Thread Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
Hi Doug, A couple of first thoughts for your theme (that I think also reflect some of the other advice you have received here): Focusing the theme on client/consumer/community needs and positive future creation can really access the passion of this group and helps to draw in specifics.

Re: Inviting Topics for helping social agencies work together?

2005-08-28 Thread Chris Corrigan
Here in the Vancouver area, agencies which serve the urban Aboriginal community have been meeting every month for the past five years in and extended conversation called the Vancouver Aboriginal Council. It isn't an organization in the traditional sense. It's more of a container for conversatio

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Mr Guess
btw - I am not an expert or associate or anything else of Integral theory, or SD. Or OST. Im more of a non-specialist hack who generally likes to live things in order to know them, and kinda suddenly wish I hadn't spoken into such a loud microphone on all this. Besides, I've been an angry village

Re: Inviting Topics for helping social agencies work together?

2005-08-28 Thread Chris Kloth
Douglas D. Germann, Sr. wrote: Hi-- A couple days ago I had lunch with a lady who is head of a volunteer center which gets volunteers for all the social service agencies in the county. She said that the major conversation that needs to happen in town is How can we work together better as social

Fwd: Themes & topics?

2005-08-28 Thread Michael Herman
this came to me instead of us... -- Forwarded message -- From: Larry Peterson Date: Aug 28, 2005 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Themes & topics? To: mher...@globalchicago.net I strongly agree with Harrison & Michael (I think). Generating a theme for an event that will be powerful has so

Re: An OS "critique" and response: Intro to Spiral Dynamics

2005-08-28 Thread Karen Sella
Hello Again, Michael Herman was kind enough to inform me that attachments can't be sent, so... here's a link to the intro to Spiral Dynamics to which I referred earlier: http://www.luminacoaching.com/IntroductiontoSpiralDynamics.htm Warm regards, Karen Karen Sella www.luminacoaching.com 206.7

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Larry Peterson
Another place we explored some of this was at OSonOS 05 in Halifax. The session I lead on Collective Consciousness, Spiral Dynamics & OST may provide a touch of this perspective. I find it quite useful, and like any, it can be used "judgmentally". Larry Larry Peterson Associates in Transforma

SV: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Eva P Svensson
Hi there, I wonder if someone would be so kind to explain what 2t or second-tier and meme as in green meme means? :o) Eva Bästa hälsningar Eva P Svensson EPS Human Invest AB "Verksamhetsutveckling genom människor skapar långsiktigt välmående företag och organisationer!" Anåsbergsvägen 22, 439 34

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Karen Sella
-Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Sella Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:34 PM To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: An OS "critique" and response Hi Eva, Thanks for your inquiry. Please find attached an overview of Spiral

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Karen Sella
Hi Tree, I'm just wondering how you define an SD/Wilberite? Are you characterizing anyone who values the Spiral Dynamics and Integral theory bases as an SD/Wilberite, or is there some sub-culture within that to which you are referring, or something else entirely? I know many people who have stud

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Karen Sella
Hi Eva, Thanks for your inquiry. Please find attached an overview of Spiral Dynamics that Daniel O'Connor and I created to teach this model that may be useful to you and others in understanding some of the discussion occurring on this list. Warm regards, Karen Karen Sella www.luminacoaching.c

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Mr Guess
Hi Tim >From what I understand, there really is no "2t" group methods, except perhaps to curiously and specifically simply observe all the radical diversity in life, as it is (which is often where talk of deep meditation practice comes in...or "doing" nothing). 2t simply INCLUDES all "first tier m

Re: Inviting Topics for helping social agencies work together?

2005-08-28 Thread Harrison Owen
Doug -- the questions -- Issues and opportunities for dealing with OUR turf wars -- is actually very specific, but to that group. My problem with the question is that it highlights the "negative" (turf wars). A better approach, I have found is to phrase the question in terms of possible probabil

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Mr Guess
Hello all As a regular reader of this list, and reader of both SD and integral theory, I just want to echo all the sentiments of Karen, here. And from what I have come to understand, I consider the OS community to be a healthy healthy expression of what has been called the green meme (which is

Inviting Topics for helping social agencies work together?

2005-08-28 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Hi-- A couple days ago I had lunch with a lady who is head of a volunteer center which gets volunteers for all the social service agencies in the county. She said that the major conversation that needs to happen in town is How can we work together better as social agencies? She sees turf wars as p

What do we know new about writing topics?

2005-08-28 Thread Douglas D. Germann, Sr.
Hi-- What do we know now about writing topics that we did not know a year ago? What are the live questions we have today about writing topics? :-Doug. Germann Seeking people making community change. * *

Re: What do we know new about writing topics?

2005-08-28 Thread Michael Herman
this past week i blogged something about a research report on what they're calling the 'conversation gap.' the key to closing the gap, in the case of this particular study the gap between managers and talented employees, is 'future' conversations. of course, "the future of..." is part of so many

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Tree Fitzpatrick
As an addendum to Chris' summary of Spiral Dynamics (SD), the green meme has been labeled 'boomeritis' by Ken Wilber, who has taken the original SD model, which was a model for human psychological development and projected it into systems/organizational thinking. I do believe that systems develop

Re: NCCI Call For Proposals

2005-08-28 Thread Robyn S Berkessel
I am currently traveling and will respond to your e-mail when I return... Many Thanks, Robyn * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@lis

Re: An OS "critique" and response

2005-08-28 Thread Chris Corrigan
You'll need to do some reading on Spiral Dynamics (SD) to get all this, but essentially, as a way of looking at human development, SD is a map in which there are several levels (or memes). They move from the development of the earliest kinds of human societies (which tend to be the most insular)

Re: NCCI Call For Proposals

2005-08-28 Thread Karen Sella
Hi Chris, Thanks for the thought, but as much as it would be nice to participate in this event, I'm already committed elsewhere in July :-) Best, Karen Karen Sella www.luminacoaching.com 206.780.2998 -Original Message- From: OSLIST [mailto:osl..