Tree
Why not spend your energy on creating something you want rather than
asking Michael to give over something he created?
Why not taking him up on his willingness to list whatever you come up
with? I got the sense that he is willing to do whatever to help
boost the rankings of whatever
What an interesting interpretation of Harrison's responses.
I don't remember reading that Harrison says this (OSLIST) is the only
way, just that its the only thing he is likely to participate in. I
don't recall his dunning any of the various expansions. It makes me
wonder if you are feeli
Tree,
Thanks for your courage, posting into a circle that from where I sit
doesn't look like it is welcoming your input. I salute you. I'm
intrigued with your mentioning the work of Humberto Maturana, and would
enjoy hearing more (email me privately if you think it won't be of
interest to the
Kaliya
Thanks for this clear update. and especially for responding neutrally
and with clear information to a comment that struck me as a bit of a
dig.
A bit of background on my life vis a vis provocation and response.
My son has always amazed me by his ability to not pick up provocation
Denise,
Just a quick note - "into deeper cyber realms" - is not what I would
think is the intent to improve things.
When things are improved - it should be easier, lighter, more
transparent. The "deeper cyber realms" sounds to me rather scary.
For many - and myself as well - the OSList is a
artur, this is because valerie is subscribed as one email address and
sending from a different one. needs to send from her gmail account or
subscribe with her comcast account. m
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Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
http://www.michaelherman.com
http://www.ronanparktrail.com
http://www.c
I am disappointed that Kaliya seems to have been hounded with putative
non-violent communication.
I am disappointed that some of the people I personally know who are active
participants on this oslist do not feel it is safe or, maybe, loving to
share their negative experiences with their interacti
Michael, are you willing to relinquish your ownerhsip of openspaceworld.org?
I think that would be best for the worldwide OS community. A subdomain of
your personal website is not, in my opinion, open.
Thanks, Kaliya, for asking others to voice their possibly negative
experiences with Michael Her
First, a copyedit: I am a member of the Open Space Institute/US (OSI/US)
board. Our name is OSI/US. . . remember when Xerox tried to stop people
from referring to photocopies as xeroxes because they wanted to protect
their 'ownership' of the name 'xerox, i.e. they didnot want 'xerox' to enter
the
Thanks, Michael.
I am copying Valerie, at her comcast adress.
Artur
--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Michael Herman wrote:
From: Michael Herman
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Fw: email response from oslist
To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 3:35 PM
artur, this is because v
[I am ressending a message from Valerie, that she tried to post to the OSLIST,
but was not distributed. So she posted the message at the NING. If not for
anything else, at least to this the Ning was useful ;-) Artur]
Hello Everyone,
I am new to open space technology and came here after the
Hi:
Valerie is subscribed to the OSLIST but unable to send messages. The messages
she received when trying are below.
Can someone explain that?
Can you help, Rob?
Artur
--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Valerie G White wrote:
From: Valerie G White
Subject: email response from oslist
To: arturfsi
kaliya, did you see my offer to host things in subdomain(s) at
openspaceworld.org? have you definitely decided that it's better to host
elsewhere? (knowing so would help me think about the future of osw) ...and
if that's the case, would creating subdomains at osw that simply pointed to
your separ
I agree with you, Wendy, about the essence of contraction and expansion. I'm
intrigued by how people perceive/experience 'this space'. There is a great
deal of diversity present in the OSlist space... a fundamental aspect that
keeps it vibrant.
And I'm intrigued by the perception that areas of the
Your question inspires a lot in me. Thanks, Erik. I particularly appreciate
it's one line potency.
I've started a thread at the ning site to play with that question in a
poetic sort of way. Anyone who wants to play, come have a peek and jump in
if you're interested:
http://openspaceworld.ning.com/
this reminds me of a conversation with merrelyn emery during a search
conference and participative design training program, exploring the question
of whether or not it was ethical to do search conference in search of the
future of some nasty corporate interests. i've heard that question pop up
her
just to be clear about one thing, holger... you said...
*
> This list has a long history, and obviously
people like that history. History brings togetherness, whether the tool is
"owned" by somebody or not (by the way - I have never felt that Michael owns
this space. I am sure a lot of people didn'
> If the new list of Kaliya is about continuing this conversation and calling
> upon somebody who is not even there, I can just say: good luck. I won't be
> there.
The list I put up at the request of people who did not want to hear about
how we could collaboratively organize our online presence t
These are compelling questions Ashley (and Erik!). As i sat with them
so many rich avenues for exploration opened up. Would you be willing
to start a new thread for this conversation?
Hugs,
Wendy
On 21-Nov-09, at 8:42 AM, ashley cooper wrote:
I agree with you, Wendy, about the essence of
No Erik. That would neither be possible nor desirable. Contraction
and Expansion. Breathing. The breath is an essential part of both
the form and the essence of Open Space and Life.
Love,
Wendy
On 21-Nov-09, at 6:33 AM, Erik Fabian wrote:
Is this space closed to moments of contraction?
Is this space closed to moments of contraction?
Erik
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:12:32 -0600, Denise Tennen
wrote:
>Thank you so much for your comments, Wendy
>
>Denise
>On Nov 20, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil wrote:
>
>> In my experience, truth is relative. It depends essentially on my
Someone asked me to join the Ning, so I did.
I had a fleeting question about where the conversation would wind up taking
place, there or here, but I dismissed it. Sometimes I do not need to know the
difference between the main circle and a break-out session. Or which is which.
The space does
Dear my friends-
I just got to realize that how vibrant our sharings have been on the
list-SERVE and it made me awakened my night- sleepless.
It seems to be doing its work- awakening us that we are a community...
Recent dissonance is just a collective birth pang of a new born, I would
rather r
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:04:49 -0800, Karen Sella
wrote:
>... being open-minded, I
>followed the link in your invitation, and upon arriving there was
>disappointed to find more negative commentary about Michael and his website
>amidst more productive suggestions about possible options.
>
>
Thanks
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