Re: [OSList] how many osonos events?

2012-10-23 Thread Тясто Марина В .
_ From: Michael Herman [mailto:mich...@michaelherman.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:18 AM To: World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] how many osonos events? the rest of the world is obviously way underserved! -- Michael Herman Michael Herm

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
Harold, you said: But I'd be saddened if we somehow forbid the "W". It feels like closing, not opening space. What if instead we agreed to stretch the W, Harold? What if anyone could indeed convene an osonos? what if anyone could indeed convene an osonos gathering and what if it was as simple as

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever

2012-10-23 Thread Harold Shinsato
About the question of getting rid of the "W" - I find it hard to engage in that question - so I'll counter with another. The first place I heard about a World Open Space on Open Space was at an Agile Open in San Francisco several years ago. Hearing one of the participants speak in the morning

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Chris Corrigan
THAT is VERY good to know. C On 2012-10-23, at 10:39 AM, Phelim McDermott wrote: > Dear Michael and Chris, > > Three days after doing WOSonOS on the wednesday I stepped back in the saddle > and played the Comedy Store.. Over the years I am well used to telling jokes > to comics. Just for the

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > Michael and all: > > > > I really do not understand all this (these) conversation(s)... > > > > First, all these conversations began with a post in a blog from someone > that *is not* here! Then people began to "try to unders

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Eleder_BuM
I'm liking very much reading this thread. Wosonos-London was great for me. Unlike in Berlin 2010 I knew that I'd learn/gain most from just being around and following my guts. This way I enjoyed it deeply, I had some good insights, some unforgettable instants, and so good new connections! One thin

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever

2012-10-23 Thread Lisa Heft
Good points, Artur, all. Just about your last part: Actually, there were Egyptian people who were in communication about coming - various reasons why they could not, after all, come. And actually, there were several members of the 2011 hosting team who came to the 2012 WOSonOS. Long conversati

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever

2012-10-23 Thread Lisa Heft
Well this invites a very interesting conversation. I get that, Harrison - and... At the end of the OSonOS by the Sea and at some other OS events I have participated in in Closing Circle someone usually says 'this was great and gee I wonder where all the ___(for example, young people, or the

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Artur Silva
Michael and all: I really do not understand all this (these) conversation(s)... First, all these conversations began with a post in a blog from someone that is not here! Then people began to "try to understand what he may have in his mind"... As far as he has been invited to come here and has n

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Harrison Owen
Lots of good points Lisa – and maybe some solutions? Venue costs – Can be considerable, of course. Can be very expensive if you only think of hotels and other such things. But Churches usually only need their space on Sundays. Else wise they might appreciate some small (or larger) donation. And for

Re: [OSList] how many osonos events?

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
the rest of the world is obviously way underserved! -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:14 PM, John Engle wrote: > We've had one on haiti each year for 11 years. > > John Engle > www.

Re: [OSList] how many osonos events?

2012-10-23 Thread John Engle
We've had one on haiti each year for 11 years. John Engle www.HaitiPartners.org 202-236-6532 Haiti: 3136-6495 Sent from iPhone On Oct 23, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Michael Herman wrote: > osonos events... i can count nearly 40 osonos events, in more than 20 > different cities around the world. i kn

[OSList] how many osonos events?

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
osonos events... i can count nearly 40 osonos events, in more than 20 different cities around the world. i know i'm missing some... can anybody help fill in? 1. dulles 2. dulles 3. dulles 4. dulles 1996 5. toronto 1997 6. monterey 1998 7. chicago 1999 8. berlin 2000 9. vancouver 2001 10. melbourn

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Phelim McDermott wrote: > Dear Michael and Chris, > > Three days after doing WOSonOS on the wednesday I stepped back in the > saddle and

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Harrison Owen
Actually lisa – True confession. My criteria for any party/open space I invoke is that I have a great time. The key is flow – and once the flow is going you really can’t stop it. Much better to just enjoy. It also helps to remember that it isn’t about you. When it is really good, nobody even notice

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
maybe the question i should be asking is why we don't call ALL of them WOSONOS... and then... what would it look like if we developed a system for anyone, anywhere, to distribute their osonos invitation to the World? oslist is perhaps the only global system needed for such distribution, but maybe

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Phelim McDermott
Dear Michael and Chris, Three days after doing WOSonOS on the wednesday I stepped back in the saddle and played the Comedy Store.. Over the years I am well used to telling jokes to comics. Just for the record I can assure you it's much easier than opening space to the spacenics! :) Phelim x

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Phelim McDermott wrote: > Some thoughts Michael, > > > On 23 Oct 2012, at 15:43, Michael Herman > wrote: > > > All of which makes me won

Re: [OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Lisa Heft
Yes, you are Harrison Owen ! (and a good thing, too... and a lucky world, because of it). I laugh as you are also recommending a name change for this stream, as I did, but no worries - the stream continues no matter what the name. I was smiling as I kept thinking how Peggy will feel when she st

[OSList] OSONOS Whenever, Wherever, with Whomsoever (name change from "Peggy..."

2012-10-23 Thread Harrison Owen
I love it Michael! – “All of which makes me wonder how many "OSonOS" events we've really had. What if we did count them up and start numbering them as we go forward, as ALL having been descended from the HHO-convened originals… What if? " (Michael Herman) I do have to confess a certain

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Phelim McDermott
Sorry Michael Went before i'd finished. In the last paragraph i wanted to say Nothing added to The OST part of the event and it was very clear which parts were social activities which we laid on as people had travelled from afar to the event and we wanted people to have the opportunity to me

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Phelim McDermott
Some thoughts Michael, On 23 Oct 2012, at 15:43, Michael Herman wrote: > If the experience is one of desiring a simpler execution of the basic > practice, then the solution is to offer to host an wosonos for yourself. Knowing what it is like on the UK scene I would say the solution is to offe

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
thanks, lisa... just a couple quick clarifications... i know osonos hosts are not pre-determined, and was just saying that to newcomers it might look that way, when we arrive with invitation materials. it didn't used to be that way and i was just suggesting that we consider what is the best way o

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Lisa Heft
Hi, all. I cannot comment on or imagine what Paul feels. He is not here to say so. But I welcome that you are sharing, Michael, how you feel. Not that you need me to welcome it ;o) but I just wanted to say I appreciate your sharing your thoughts and feelings about this. About hosting OSonOSs

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Michael Herman
If the experience is one of desiring a simpler execution of the basic practice, then the solution is to offer to host an wosonos for yourself. If, however, you're from the UK, for instance, and the UK has just hosted, that means you don't really have a shot at it for at least a few years. Further

[OSList] How do we manage time in an evening+morning shortish OS? (II part of:: How do we invite key and high conflicted people?)

2012-10-23 Thread Eleder_BuM
Some weeks ago I asked some questions regarding and OS in which we had a big concern: how to invite a small and conflicted group (you can see the message below),... After a conversation beween both parts it seems that this group is willing to come to the OS. Now I come with another question. -

Re: [OSList] Peggy plus OST Linkedin Comment

2012-10-23 Thread Thomas Herrmann
I think the Law is about action too. You can act in three ways 1. Mental movement (try to change yourself, focus and be fully present, maybe you are missing something important here) – thanks Jan-Erik for this perspective during NOSonOS in august! 2. “Intervention” into what you don